Bullet Dodging Kata

[GREENTHINKS]

If Under Fighting Tension, You Can "deke" Somebody Into Falling Down, That Is Black Belt Level. If You Also Catch Them Before They Hit,that Is An Experienced Black Belt Level.black Belts Are Beginners Also. People That Can't Use A Light Touch Are Like Green Belts. People That Hurt Other People On Purpose Should Get Kicked(out).

[SimonM]

Tamishiwara explained in English

Tamishiwara is the practice of breaking inanimate objects (boards, bricks, ice, etc.) with bare hand/foot/head/etc attacks. In Kung Fu (and in legitimate Karate) it is generally considered to be a cute little trick to impress the rubes without needing to hurt anyone. Apparently some McDojo denizens like Academin think they are actually learning how to fight by doing it - they are deluding themselves.

Dim Mak means one of two things. According to Chinese legend it was the use of accupressure (ie Chi Meridians) to cause harm to your opponent. Frequently this took the form of the "delayed death blow" where the "Chi" of the target would be killed causing them to die some time later.

Some TCMA masters such as Chan Tai San took a more practical view towards killing people with their hands. They just did exactly what I described a few posts back to Academin. They conditioned themselves until they were hard as rocks and then they fought rediculously dirty. As this has everything to do with breaking knecks, collapsing tracheas and bruising livers and NOTHING to do with magical Chi flow it's not really "Dim Mak" but it's a hell of a lot more realistic. But the thing is it's hard work whereas learning how to poke somebody on the elbow is not so people who are more interested in claiming to be deadly than in actually learning how to fight tend to like it.

[SimonM]

If Under Fighting Tension, You Can "deke" Somebody Into Falling Down, That Is Black Belt Level. If You Also Catch Them Before They Hit,that Is An Experienced Black Belt Level.black Belts Are Beginners Also. People That Can't Use A Light Touch Are Like Green Belts. People That Hurt Other People On Purpose Should Get Kicked(out).

I really couldn't care less about belts. I played with an Aikidoka black belt once and it was not even a challenge. I've also been thumped by a "white belt" who trained himself at home non-stop for two years (10-14 hours per day). What matters is practice. Now I agree that nobody should be forced to participate in fighting at a level more intense than they can handle but if you want to learn how to defend yourself you have to learn how to hurt people. That's just reality. Now I'm not saying I can't use a light touch. I have to when I sparr at my Kwoon (as I said my Sifu would be unimpressed if I brutalized a newb) but I also realize that when the meat hits the metal I'd rather already know what it feels like to get kicked in the balls/ punched in the nose/ thrown to the ground/ etc. and be prepared to defeat an opponent who may want to seriously hurt me. Better that than spending my time training my muscles to do the wrong thing in a fight. And Greenthinks: I'd avoid trying to "deek somebody into falling down" if you ever find yourself in a bar brawl. Just do what Judo does best and start hitting people with other people.

[academian]

Tamishiwara is the practice of breaking inanimate objects (boards, bricks, ice, etc.) with bare hand/foot/head/etc attacks. In Kung Fu (and in legitimate Karate) it is generally considered to be a cute little trick to impress the rubes without needing to hurt anyone. Apparently some McDojo denizens like Academin think they are actually learning how to fight by doing it - they are deluding themselves.

Dim Mak means one of two things. According to Chinese legend it was the use of accupressure (ie Chi Meridians) to cause harm to your opponent. Frequently this took the form of the "delayed death blow" where the "Chi" of the target would be killed causing them to die some time later.

Ok for starters You are totally wrong. Dim mak is the use of vital energy. It has nothing to do with striking. it can be done with a light touch or even from across the room by some of the more advanced masters.what you are describing is just what you have seen at your so called mcdojo's.but that is not real. if you want to learn the real thing go to a real instructor like Grandmaster Doc-Fai Wong Then tell me it is not real and it is just a trick performed at mcdojos. I know it is real because I have experienced it first hand it is awesome.

[Tant01]

Ok for starters You are totally wrong. Dim mak is the use of vital energy. It has nothing to do with striking. it can be done with a light touch or even from across the room ....
.... I know it is real because I have experienced it first hand it is awesome.

"Dim mak (death touch) is an ancient martial art that consists of striking certain points on the body to cause illness or death. The points are usually called dim mak points, but they are also referred to as vital points and pressure points."

source; The Science Behind Dim Mak


"The feared Chinese "Dim Mak" system is a rarely seen art that teaches how to strike vital nerve points on the body which when hit temporarily disables or paralyzes your attacker" 18 Daoist Palms system.



Should I go on? I don't know JACK about Dim Mak but I know how to read...



You might try it.

[academian]

"Dim mak (death touch) is an ancient martial art that consists of striking certain points on the body to cause illness or death. The points are usually called dim mak points, but they are also referred to as vital points and pressure points."

source; The Science Behind Dim Mak


"The feared Chinese "Dim Mak" system is a rarely seen art that teaches how to strike vital nerve points on the body which when hit temporarily disables or paralyzes your attacker" 18 Daoist Palms system.



Should I go on? I don't know JACK about Dim Mak but I know how to read...



You might try it.

Why not try experiencing it first hand you are within driving distance of Grandmaster Doc fai wong

[academian]

It is taking you forever to post reply you must be doing a web search here let me help you out Grandmaster Doc-Fai Wong, Ph.D., O.M.D., L.Ac. has been teaching martial arts in the San Francisco Bay Area since 1968 and is the president of the Plum Blossom International Federation of Choy Li Fut and Tai Chi Chuan.

He is a second-generation grandmaster of Yang-Family Tai Chi Chuan, having studied under Great-grandmaster Hu Yuen-Chou, a close disciple of the famous Yang Cheng-Fu. Yang Cheng-Fu was the grandson of the founder of Yang-Family Tai Chi Chuan.

[Tant01]

Why not try experiencing it first hand you are within driving distance of Grandmaster Doc fai wong

You can find "Dim-Mak" in Korean Katas, Chinese Kung-Fu and among other places, good old Judo Atemi Waza. Actually, a late aquaintence of mine knew a good bit of Tai-Chi Quan but you won't find his name on the internet, in books about Dim-Mak or accupuncture and no one called him Master...

His name was Ed Lum. He enjoyed helping people heal.

[Tant01]

It is taking you forever to post reply you must be doing a web search .....

Right, nothing more important going on now than discussing Dit-Dow with dum dum....

[academian]

Judo Atemi Waza (actually jujutsu as kano removed those from judo) is a completly diffrent art. it uses the same points but thats about the only simularity. The japanese version of dim mak is called kyusho-jutsu and it is a complete art by its self but is some times incorporated into other arts such as kenpo-jujutsu..................

[academian]

Right, nothing more important going on now than discussing Dit-Dow with dum dum....

I cant think of anything more important than learning something that you should have learned years ago. but the only problem is that you are not learning you are just arguing................

[Tant01]

Judo Atemi Waza (actually jujutsu as kano removed those from judo) is a completly diffrent art. it uses the same points but thats about the only simularity. The japanese version of dim mak is called kyusho-jutsu and it is a complete art by its self but is some times incorporated into other arts such as kenpo-jujutsu..................

LOL History ain't your best subject, is it? Atemi was incorporated into Judo Kata before the American occupation of Japan. It was our military that removed all combat application of Judo and made it "just a sport", not Kano.

[Tant01]

I cant think of anything more important than learning something that you should have learned years ago. but the only problem is that you are not learning you are just arguing................

"And consider that learning has no greater enemy than ignorance, neither can the unskillful ever judge the truth of my art to them unknown, beware of rash judgment and accept my labors thankfully as I bestow them willingly.........."


George Syluer Circa 1599

[academian]

LOL History ain't your best subject, is it? Atemi was incorporated into Judo Kata before the American occupation of Japan. It was our military that removed all combat application of Judo and made it "just a sport", not Kano.

Where did you come up with that? It contradicts anything that I have read kano invented the sport of judo by taking those techniques out of jujutsu.that is what I have always read. In many places many times an I have never seen any evidence to prove other wise. Do you have any????

[Tant01]

Where did you come up with that? It contradicts anything that I have read kano invented the sport of judo by taking those techniques out of jujutsu.that is what I have always read. In many places many times an I have never seen any evidence to prove other wise. Do you have any????

The words jujutsu and judo are each written with two Chinese characters. The ju in both is the same and means "gentleness" or "giving way". The meaning of jutsu is "art practice" and do means "principle" or "way," the Way being the concept of life itself. Jujutsu may be translated as "the gentle art," judo as "the way of gentleness," with the implication of first giving way to ultimatly gain victory. The Kodokan is, literally, "the school for studying the way." ...judo is more than an art of attack and defense. It is a way of life.


Jigoro Kano.


ALL military arts were banned in Post-War Japan. The Kodokan was closed because it was a military academy! After many meetings; it was agreed that the Kodokan could re-open ONLY if it taught sport judo, and only sport judo, with the goal of it becoming an olympic sport.
...It was NOT Kano who wanted Judo to become a mear sport; but General MacArthur!

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