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[medic06]

"So, here's a question:

Have you noticed that you never hear a boxer or a wrestler or such say things like "My boxing works" or "In such and such situation I'm confident my boxing will win"? In the event there are hostilities, you are likely to hear "I'll kick your ass, *@#$^%" if anything. Later, you are unlikely to hear the same person say "I got into a confrontation today and I'm glad to say that my boxing worked", or "I used my boxing successfully". However, substitute the name of many MAs, and almost any TMA, and I'm sure you've all heard people say (or type) such things.

Why do you suppose that is?"

Well the wrestler who got killed isn't saying anything, now is he?

[medic06]

OH, and to answer your question Jubaji, people would rather put their faith in a style or technique rather then themselves.

[medic06]

you know, im also wondering why boarspear is always trying to justify traditional martial arts to himself and us, yet talks negatively about other disciplines. are u just really insecure or what? i think the mma and bjj especially make him insecure . he talks bad about bjj, wrestling, and mma but he must look at these arts in envy if they make him feel insecure enough to have to try to justify the arts he trains in to himself. he talks about how mma and bjj people talk shit about other arts, but he does the exact same thing he accuses others of doing.

Problably because he gets bored and decides to see who in the MMA/BJJ/MT world is insecure. There is an old saying "A hit dog will holler". What are you yelling about?

[medic06]

you know, im also wondering why boarspear is always trying to justify traditional martial arts to himself and us, yet talks negatively about other disciplines. are u just really insecure or what? i think the mma and bjj especially make him insecure . he talks bad about bjj, wrestling, and mma but he must look at these arts in envy if they make him feel insecure enough to have to try to justify the arts he trains in to himself. he talks about how mma and bjj people talk shit about other arts, but he does the exact same thing he accuses others of doing.

TMAs are alive and well and still being practiced, that's plenty of justification in my book.

[BoarSpear]

Hey emptyhead, I dont bash your sports until AFTER you bash theTMAs you stole your sports from. Ever seen me start a sports suck thread? No you havent...yet how many TMA threads are about how TMA sucks? ...i mean this is a japanese MA forum, not your precious sport err mma forum where everyone cries when SD themes are posted...so dont be suprised in the TMA threads when DEAD sports nuts who brought their sport into the street are discussed.

[jubaji]

so dont be suprised in the TMA threads when DEAD sports nuts who brought their sport into the street are discussed.

Hey scumbag. The person you have decided is now a "sports nut" is apparently a human being who is now dead. Do you think you might show the slightest deference to that fact in your hysterical quest to purge your own insecurities?

Wrestling didn't lose, Wrestling wasn't killed, some kid was. Make some room in your drama-queen desperate struggle to justify yourself for some common sense and some common decency.

[jubaji]

OH, and to answer your question Jubaji, people would rather put their faith in a style or technique rather then themselves.

Now, if we can answer the question "why?" we'll be getting someplace.

[BoarSpear]

Hey scumbag. The person you have decided is now a "sports nut" is apparently a human being who is now dead. Do you think you might show the slightest deference to that fact in your hysterical quest to purge your own insecurities?

Wrestling didn't lose, Wrestling wasn't killed, some kid was. Make some room in your drama-queen desperate struggle to justify yourself for some common sense and some common decency.

Hey punk...YOU mock the TMAs consistantly...YOU ALWAYS talk smack how the TMA's dont prepare you for self defense...tough shit if you dont like it when a WRESTLER started a fight in the street while armed and died for his ignorance...I have seen multiple ring art people claim the ring people can KILL SEALs ....tough shit i pointed out a REGULAR army guy (who was unarmed) outweighed by 110lbs by your (armed) wrestler wasnt killed by the wrestler...it was the other way around...You just have your panties in a wad because your precious sport participants keep dying in the street...YOU have some decency...stop telling kids that wrestling better prepares people for the street than the military and martial arts...Maybe less people will die finding out that mythic ring arts aint so hot in the street i dont have to wonder if wrestling works in a street fight jr I know Its a bad idea...

[JkD187]

Hey emptyhead, I dont bash your sports until AFTER you bash theTMAs you stole your sports from.Ever seen me start a sports suck thread? No you havent...yet how many TMA threads are about how TMA sucks?...i mean this is a japanese MA forum, not your precious sport err mma forum where everyone cries when SD themes are posted...so dont be suprised in the TMA threads when DEAD sports nuts who brought their sport into the street are discussed.

This shit just dose not end...all boar seems to talk about it knives...tma and how "sports" suck.....i dont know what his prob is but he likes to think that sports tend to get people killed not people get people killed....sports had nothing to do with it smartty pants.

[JkD187]

How is it a bad idea to learn wrestling cuz some guy got choked out by a flash light???? im sure there is a defense for that somewhere in the traditional arts huh yea base the effectiveness of a "style" on a person dying cuz he made a wrong choice......2 people who did ring sport die on the street and you all tma people cream all over it.

[blitz]

This shit just dose not end...all boar seems to talk about it knives...tma and how "sports" suck.....i dont know what his prob is but he likes to think that sports tend to get people killed not people get people killed....sports had nothing to do with it smartty pants.

Boar wouldn't bash those arts if people didn't bash TMAs and I'm pretty sure about that.

[Hardball]

ROTFLMAO {rolling on the floor laughing my Arse Off}

[BoarSpear]

This shit just dose not end...all boar seems to talk about it knives...tma and how "sports" suck.....i dont know what his prob is but he likes to think that sports tend to get people killed not people get people killed....sports had nothing to do with it smartty pants.

sports and its associated mentallity had everything to do with it...Big boy used wrestling tactics in a real fight...the soldier used tactics he learned in the military...the soldier won. Whats so hard to understand? military H2H training overcame a 110lb weight DISADVANTAGE over an ARMED opponent...ring sports have weight classes and NO weapons...HMM how many times did the Gracies make the excuse that Helio was outweighed by 40 lbs in the Fight he lost? The founder of the system was unable to overcome a 40 lb weight advantage? Hmmm the army guy used the techniques built for war and overcame 110 lb weight disadvantage and the fact the bigger guy was armed...but there isnt a lesson to be learned?? YOU just dont face it...the things you do in the ring are designed for the ring..NOT the streets.

[blitz]

They can be used in the street if they are modified to a certain extent. In the street you don't use snap kicks and circle around your oponent you try your best to use the moves that you have learned that will keep him off of you in the fastest time period. So a choke from bjj can't kill a man? I'm pretty sure it can. Boar, you gotta remember these ring sports were once martial arts used for self defense just like any TMA.

[jubaji]

Hey punk...YOU mock the TMAs consistantly...YOU ALWAYS talk smack how the TMA's dont prepare you for self defense.....

I do? Where, you lying sack of shit?