JKD Nucleus

[Wi-Stickboxer]

I come from a "concepts" approach. However,this is not because that's what I wanted,it was what I was forced to accept! One of my big beefs with JKDC is that you can't just learn the "JKD" (or the "Jun Fan"). Many people,myself included,dislike the mixed class approach so many JKDC guys take. A little Kali,a little Wing Chun,a little Thai boxing,taa daa! Instant JKD! I call shenanigans. Granted,in many places you can take just the "Jun Fan" class. But a LOT of them were into the "phase" classes. Many schools did not add "Jun Fan" classes until the Bruce Lee popularity explosion in the 90's. Some of us wanted to learn Bruce Lee's JKD. You know,strong side up,simple,direct,non classical. But it's not there,we've CREATED a "tradition" of JKD that did not exist! The old OBLS have "classical" JKD,the JKDC have their "non classical mess". What was about truth in combat has become about rank,certificates,terminology and ritual. The philosophys of Bruce Lee are rooted in Krishnamurti,I would advise many JKD-ers to research this. The Swiss Army Knife approach to martial artts does NOT work. It is the application of BASICS that forms a realistic approach to combat. To quote "Lennox Lewis does not have an 'advanced' left hook." JKD,is not,taking a bunch of styles you like and cobbling together a hodgepodge. You don't need an instructor for that! JKD is a boat. Once it's carried you across the river there's no need to carry it on your back...

That is why MMA is pushing aside other martial art schools. It's simple,direct,and non classical. It's fun. It doesn't require you to keep accumulating styles,terminology and certificates...

[Aikia]

[QUOTE=Wi-Stickboxer;333754]I come from a "concepts" approach. However,this is not because that's what I wanted,it was what I was forced to accept! One of my big beefs with JKDC is that you can't just learn the "JKD" (or the "Jun Fan"). Many people,myself included,dislike the mixed class approach so many JKDC guys take. A little Kali,a little Wing Chun,a little Thai boxing,taa daa! Instant JKD! I call shenanigans.

Exellent observation shared by hundreds of seminar participants. And such was the climate in 1993. Many people that wanted to learn jeet kune do paid for seminars and received JKDC. JKDC had a monopoly on the JKD market until 1993.
In 1993 the OJKD became popular again both in seminars given by Bruce Lee's original students and in articles and book that pointed out that Dan Inosanto invented the JKDC, not Bruce Lee.
It was at this time that Paula Inosanto wrote her letter, enraged with anger and resentment that former Inosanto family member John Soet (member by marriage) would publish and article in Inside karate magazine extolling the virtues of OJKD/Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do.
It was the Inosanto group that set up the new interpretation of "JKD" as the "JKDC".
It was the Paula Inosanto letter that forever wedged the divide between Dan Inosanto and the Bruce Lee Foundation/Family. The BLF rejected the JKDC approach in favor of OJKD/Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do.

Question for WI Kali Group
Do you have access to the entire 1993 Paula Inosanto letter or are you just regurgitating the krivka edits of the 6 page letter?
I am going to provide details for you.

[Aikia]

[QUOTE=Wi Kali Group;333748]And here is the one on Dr. Beasley


Martial Arts Koncepts




NOTE: Following is the final response to the publication of Paula Inosanto's letter in the November '93 newsletter. This month we we'll examine Dr. Jerry Beasley's heated response to her comments as well as his personal attack against me. Next month, in the final installment of "Backlash", I'll summarize the current situation and future actions to curb these "cowboys".

Dr. Jerry Beasley
Dr. Jerry Beasley (Dr. B) is the author of 2(+) books and more than 40(+) articles on Jeet Kune Do and is "a recognized authority" on the subject.



In numerous articles Dr. B states that he trained in JKD and Kali with Guro Dan Inosanto over a five year period (1983-1988). According to Dan and Paula Inosanto, they did see Dr. B in attendance at several seminars and camps. But they are both quick to point out that Dr. B was there taking notes and that they never once saw him train. [Sitting on the sidelines of a seminar and taking notes is not what most consider a valid method of "experiencing" a training method or system.]

WI Kali Group,
You are responding like a well trained lapdog.
Read this:
KaliJKD

I have several certificates after training with Dan.

Now who is lying? I received certificates after training at JKD"C" seminars.
For Dan and Paula to write "Only saw him take notes"??
Someone is lying don't you agree. As for krivka he knows why he was jealous of me. I'll explain if you like.

[Baki Hanma]

Man oh man, this shit is tiresome, From my point of view I think shit is just bunked!

As i kid Bruce Lee was always my childhood hero, and honestly today he still is, I use to stand here with so much respect for all his family and students his friends and so on, my dream was to train with each of those who really had a connection with Bruce Lee Directly, or at least a second generation who was rightly taught by Dan Inosanto, and or Taky Kimura, since i couldn't ever train with Bruce himself!
And I always knew there were alot of fakes running around trying to cash in on Bruce Lee's art of JKD when they knew little or nothing about the art at all...
All I can say now is for any bashing of Bruce's memories and any money hungry drama I'm so disappointed, in all this mess I honestly have become unsure of who is most worthy of learning from, although I may not be so interested in learning from some whom I once did, I do still have a interest in learning from Taky and seeing as how Brandon trusted in Dan, and so did Bruce calling Dan Inosanto one of his best friends, I want to train with Dan Inosanto.

I highly believe that Bruce would have been sadden to see how things have become, and for those who fake and dirty his memories I'm sure he would have ripped these fakes apart, but I'm sure they would ha ve never acted up if he was still around...

I'm disgusted for Bruce against those who drag the legacy through the mud...

With all this brain pain information I have come to wonder how much of the art JKD from certain sources are really legit...

[Aikia]

WI Kali Group,
You don't know the whole story. Here is the last page where paula adresses the fact that john Soet is the target of her letter. She writes:
"We have long stopped buying the martial art magazines, but people constantly send us articles, or “gossip” items for verification. These informative” articles include such items as “Dan Inosanto throws sister out of his school” (Dan was never present on that occasion, and Lilia was never “thrown out”- when Dan asked Lilia about this, her response was “It was John’s idea”) ; “Cass Magda not invited to Dan Inosanto’s daughter’s wedding,” (now, there is some pertinent
martial arts information); or how about the column on Dan’s mother
after her death, a piece which offended Dan deeply, and had no place in a martial art publication. I could go on and on with quotes attributed to Dan, all of which he never said, but this would be a
waste of both your time and mine, and I am sure you have an idea now of what Dan has had to put up with partly because of your irresponsible publications. Should you personally be interested in more than “varying opinions” from unqualified and uncertified individuals, and getting to the truth about Jeet Kune Do, the art and the students of the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute, our door is always open to you too!


There is one paragraph in your letter which, quite frankly, shocked and appalled Dan. John indicated “he has given Dan
preferential treatment,” when in fact, every lie, misquote, or damaging piece of information in your publication apparently leads right back to John himself as the author, or person responsible for its

appearance in the magazine. We would like to make one thing perfectly clear; we have no “familial ties” with John Soet. John married Dan’s sister Lilia Howe, but by no stretch of the imagination did he become a member of our family. He is not now nor has he
ever been considered “family.” There are no past misunderstandings
where Mr. Soet is concerned. He has always been perfectly understood, his views and feelings concerning my husband and members of his family, as stated over and over again in letters and documents that comprise a file almost as large as the inaccurate information in the magazines.

You ask if there is anything you can do to make this up to Dan. What do you think can be done to unravel the morass created by your disingenuous publications, and to remove the grief experienced by us
arising from the cloud you have placed over the reputation of one of
the most honest, sincere, compassionate, knowledgeable and decent
human beings the martial arts world has ever known?



Sincerely,








Paula L. Inosanto


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cc:
Ms. Linda Lee Caidwell
Mr.

[fire cobra]

I come from a "concepts" approach. However,this is not because that's what I wanted,it was what I was forced to accept! One of my big beefs with JKDC is that you can't just learn the "JKD" (or the "Jun Fan"). Many people,myself included,dislike the mixed class approach so many JKDC guys take. A little Kali,a little Wing Chun,a little Thai boxing,taa daa! Instant JKD! I call shenanigans. Granted,in many places you can take just the "Jun Fan" class. But a LOT of them were into the "phase" classes. Many schools did not add "Jun Fan" classes until the Bruce Lee popularity explosion in the 90's. Some of us wanted to learn Bruce Lee's JKD. You know,strong side up,simple,direct,non classical. But it's not there,we've CREATED a "tradition" of JKD that did not exist! The old OBLS have "classical" JKD,the JKDC have their "non classical mess". What was about truth in combat has become about rank,certificates,terminology and ritual. The philosophys of Bruce Lee are rooted in Krishnamurti,I would advise many JKD-ers to research this. The Swiss Army Knife approach to martial artts does NOT work. It is the application of BASICS that forms a realistic approach to combat. To quote "Lennox Lewis does not have an 'advanced' left hook." JKD,is not,taking a bunch of styles you like and cobbling together a hodgepodge. You don't need an instructor for that! JKD is a boat. Once it's carried you across the river there's no need to carry it on your back...

That is why MMA is pushing aside other martial art schools. It's simple,direct,and non classical. It's fun. It doesn't require you to keep accumulating styles,terminology and certificates...

I felt the same way in the very early 1980s bro,wanted the Bruce Lee stuff but got exposed to things he never did(to any great level anyway) maybe this was more to do with the seminar organisers than the teacher,Im unsure.

Either way it put me off the JKD track I felt I wanted at that time.

I often wonder why there is no one within the JKD branches(that I know of) who is anywhere near the same level as Bruce Lee was,I would put it down to very few people follow the formula he laid out.

[Wi Kali Group]

I have been to many seminars of Various "JKD" instructors. And anyone like me can attest that getting those certificates means two things. You were present and you paid for the seminar. They are the I was there certificates. So nothing you have said has refuted what was stated by Paula's letter.

For those who don't know when you go to a seminar. If you are a no talent hack you get the same seminar certificate from Dan as one of his Full instructors. They are a nice reminder of the seminar. Don't be fooled by people who try to pass them off as legitimate credentials.

A donkey with a cart of holy books is still a donkey.

[Kvntu]

I didn't realize Aikia is Dr Beasley. Nice to have you share your opinion on the forum. The reality is there is so much loyalty to your teacher in martial arts people become very biased. If you studied with Dan you will be loyal to Dan. If you studied with Ted Wong, a very nice guy, you will be loyal to him. This has always been a phenomenon in martial arts and doesnt always lead to clear understanding. Breaking away from that emotion and looking at issues such as these clearly and factually is often difficult for martial arts students. I have tried to do that to the best of my abilities and have always found myself leaning to Dans presentation of Bruce Lee's art. Dan teaches the original JKD and also conveys the philosophy that was so crucial to Bruce's exploration.

[Wi Kali Group]

I felt the same way in the very early 1980s bro,wanted the Bruce Lee stuff but got exposed to things he never did(to any great level anyway) maybe this was more to do with the seminar organisers than the teacher,Im unsure.

Either way it put me off the JKD track I felt I wanted at that time.

I often wonder why there is no one within the JKD branches(that I know of) who is anywhere near the same level as Bruce Lee was,I would put it down to very few people follow the formula he laid out.

Ok on the why no one is near the same level as Bruce? This is why Dan has pushed the Kali so much. The old stick masters were the only ones that across the board had Bruce like attributes. The only common denominator in all of them was the weapons training.

Vunak I found it somewhere. Was talking about how he could never get the JKD stuff to work untill Dan talked him into doing the Kali for 6-12 months.

On the seminars. I believe Dan teaches what the seminar host requests.

And on the school. I had the same problem I wanted more the Vunak style & Jun Fan. My instructor was a follower of Dan. So while It wasn't what I wanted it was ok for me. I was too lazy to move to Cali.

[Aikia]

I have been to many seminars of Various "JKD" instructors. And anyone like me can attest that getting those certificates means two things. You were present and you paid for the seminar. They are the I was there certificates. So nothing you have said has refuted what was stated by Paula's letter.

For those who don't know when you go to a seminar. If you are a no talent hack you get the same seminar certificate from Dan as one of his Full instructors. They are a nice reminder of the seminar. Don't be fooled by people who try to pass them off as legitimate credentials.

A donkey with a cart of holy books is still a donkey.

_____________________

What are you hiding Wi Kali group?
To imply that a Black Belt magazine Hall of Famer is a "hack"? How imature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5zm5LroHI

You are indeed acting like the donkey you describe. Between 1983-87 you received certificates when you were observed training. Larry Hartsell often used me as his partner because of my high level of striking skills. I often exchanged techniques with Dan as well. Dan took the time (1984) to write out a teaching plan for me to teach kali to my students.

Interesting that others have already volunteered the fact that they paid for JKD and received JKDC. I am certainly a "Dan fan". But I can objectively see where he and his wife made a grievous error. That letter could be forgotten if not for a few low lifers that try to give it importance. The fact that he introduced the 'new" JKDC interpretation in the late 1970's led to the eventual split in JKD.
Still Dan Inosanto remains an accomplished and highly respected martial arts master, and indeed he should. I believe he was doing exactly what he thought Bruce Lee had instructed him to do in developing his own unique path as he evolved his personal JKD into the JKDC.
If there is a problem it is the fact that many wanted to follow Bruce Lee's JKD path and evolve their JKD on their own. Those who support the BLF are of this persuasion.
Those that have embraced the Inosanto concepts are indeed fortunate.

[Guest]

All

Political discussions aside, I just wanted to comment on a separate point that seems to be coming out here.

In terms of finding JKD, or the element of JKD that you are looking for, that simply comes down to how much it means to you and how far are you prepared to go to get it?

If you want to study the original material that Bruce Lee taught, there are instructors teaching exactly that. As people on here know, I started my training with the Nucleus Instructors, I was a student in the Jun Fan method from 1994 to 1997. I attended the first Nucleus event in San Francisco, January 1997. For three years I studied original Jun Fan Gung Fu material, its really not that hard to find - I was just prepared to get on a plane and go to the source.

I have also studied a lot of exactly the same material at Guro Inosanto's Jun Fang Gung Fu classes at his Academy. Therefore, having been on both sides of the fence is one of the reasons why the whole argument is complete bollocks. What I learned with the Nucleus I then learned from Guro Inosanto, and his Full Instructors. There is no OJKD or JKDC, its bullshit. One person teaches certain material exclusively, and another teaches additonal arts as well. Its really not rocket science.

If you want to study the material taught by Paul Vunak then get on a plane and go to his house. I did it in 1998 and have been back 4 times since. Paul's material is superb JKD, he is a lovely guy and a wonderful instructor. He's there, go train with him.

Yes there are people in JKD who prefer a blended approach, but if you've done your homework and walk in with your eyes open then you will know that. If thats not what you want then don't study there, go study with someone who teaches what you want.

If you just go to seminars, or if you train with a guy who is under a guy who knew a guy then you cannot expect to be learning at a high quality level. JKD is very new martial art, who's founder unfortunately died very young and left only a handful of people teaching his method. If you really want it then its still a big commitment to go and find it, so like I say its down to how much it means to YOU and how far YOU are prepared to go. Don't point the finger at other people because your commitment only goes so far.

I'm not having a dig at anyone on here, I'm just offering some context. JKD exists, and world class instructors exist. They're just not round the corner for most of us, unfortunately.

And in terms of why anyone is not as good as Bruce Lee was, I don't think you can definitively or objectively make that claim. All I have to judge Bruce Lee is film footage and testimony. What I have seen in real life from the likes of Guro Inosanto, Paul Vunak, Erik Paulson, Rick Young, Rick Faye etc - I'm not personally sure its a fair statement.

[Baki Hanma]

All

Political discussions aside, I just wanted to comment on a separate point that seems to be coming out here.

In terms of finding JKD, or the element of JKD that you are looking for, that simply comes down to how much it means to you and how far are you prepared to go to get it?

If you want to study the original material that Bruce Lee taught, there are instructors teaching exactly that. As people on here know, I started my training with the Nucleus Instructors, I was a student in the Jun Fan method from 1994 to 1997. I attended the first Nucleus event in San Francisco, January 1997. For three years I studied original Jun Fan Gung Fu material, its really not that hard to find - I was just prepared to get on a plane and go to the source.

I have also studied a lot of exactly the same material at Guro Inosanto's Jun Fang Gung Fu classes at his Academy. Therefore, having been on both sides of the fence is one of the reasons why the whole argument is complete bollocks. What I learned with the Nucleus I then learned from Guro Inosanto, and his Full Instructors. There is no OJKD or JKDC, its bullshit. One person teaches certain material exclusively, and another teaches additonal arts as well. Its really not rocket science.

If you want to study the material taught by Paul Vunak then get on a plane and go to his house. I did it in 1998 and have been back 4 times since. Paul's material is superb JKD, he is a lovely guy and a wonderful instructor. He's there, go train with him.

Yes there are people in JKD who prefer a blended approach, but if you've done your homework and walk in with your eyes open then you will know that. If thats not what you want then don't study there, go study with someone who teaches what you want.

If you just go to seminars, or if you train with a guy who is under a guy who knew a guy then you cannot expect to be learning at a high quality level. JKD is very new martial art, who's founder unfortunately died very young and left only a handful of people teaching his method. If you really want it then its still a big commitment to go and find it, so like I say its down to how much it means to YOU and how far YOU are prepared to go. Don't point the finger at other people because your commitment only goes so far.

I'm not having a dig at anyone on here, I'm just offering some context. JKD exists, and world class instructors exist. They're just not round the corner for most of us, unfortunately.

And in terms of why anyone is not as good as Bruce Lee was, I don't think you can definitively or objectively make that claim. All I have to judge Bruce Lee is film footage and testimony. What I have seen in real life from the likes of Guro Inosanto, Paul Vunak, Erik Paulson, Rick Young, Rick Faye etc - I'm not personally sure its a fair statement.

Well said!
I can see why people here praise you for your post...

As far as I'm concern, I grew up in a family who has a huge background of martial arts and fighting experience, I pretty much learned or starting learning martial arts the moment i could walk, I have grown to love it, and can honestly say that no matter what phase i went through, I've always had a strong passion for martial arts, and want to continue this passion for the rest of my life.
My goal is to be the best, and I'm not going to say I'm number one, but I will never admit to being number two!
I have somethings i need to work out, but I actually am planning to pack my back and start my journey starting from where i am and heading out on foot, on train, on bus to let my art experience many different things from what many people have to offer....
Now I'm sure leaving home with a packed bag and traveling the way I am for the sake of martial arts is kind of crazy and maybe to some kind of cool, but all i can say is this is going to be awesome!

[Wi Kali Group]

What are you hiding Wi Kali group?
To imply that a Black Belt magazine Hall of Famer is a "hack"? How imature.

I never said you were a hack. Other than where I've stated my opinion I was just stating a fact. For those out there who might not know. The people reading this don't have to take my word for it. They can go to a seminar and see I'm telling the truth. That everyone regardless of ability will receive the exact same piece of paper.

I don't want to label you a hack. Even if I was sure you were I'd rather people come to that conclusion for themselves. It's the same with any of the JKD instructors out teaching. I like to deal in facts. I'm not trying to claim that anyone out their is no good or not qualified to teach. The number of people who I've trained under (even at seminars) is too small for that.

My big beef is people regardless of their position distorting the facts. And the reason people keep digging up old facts is people keep lying. Maybe they aren't lying I really shouldn't place motives. Maybe they just don't know any better.

And as far as what you said about Larry. According to your clip on youtube. The quote from Larry

"Jerry, Thanks for promoting the seminars. It was great working for you. Tell Joe Lewis he is still on tough Son-of-a-gun." 43 secs into it.

Now that quote to me sounds like you had Larry in for a seminar or something "It was great working for you." It's not unheard of for seminar hosts to be the tackling dummy for the instructor. Not all have a traveling assistant. And Larry didn't always have one with him.

And their is a quote by Dan talking about how you wrote a great article. 1:06 into the clip. All we know for a fact is Dan thought you wrote one good article. Now maybe he liked all of them. But all we know for sure is he liked one.

It sounds like you rubbed elbows with a ton of talented people over the years. You may have learned a lot. You may have learned nothing I don't care. It sounds like you don't claim to be a JKD instructor. I think I saw a post where you didn't claim to be an instructor. And that as long as people wanted to buy your books you would serve your fans. Hey you have every right to. If nothing else you would have some great stories about people who are no longer around.

I am really glad to see your kind words for Dan.

On the letter though. It seems like you point out what she wrote it about to try and detract from her comments on you. Now she was dealing in facts. She talked about what her and Dan saw you do at their seminars. She didn't say you never trained. Just that she never saw it. And I think anyone who has met Dan or Paula and gotten to know them will know how honest they are.

Then you pull up your I was there certificates. And point to your long career of books and articles. Fine you are a prolific writer who is very popular. I'll give you that. And I make this point not as a judgment of you. But an observation so others can make up their own mind.

The national inquire is a very successful paper. Millions read it. I have on many occasions. But most people don't really think Elvis is alive. That the woman's baby was half alien. Or what ever else is in there.

[Aikia]

WI Kali Group,
You don't know the whole story. Here is the last page where paula adresses the fact that john Soet is the target of her letter. She writes:
"We have long stopped buying the martial art magazines, but people constantly send us articles, or “gossip” items for verification. These informative” articles include such items as “Dan Inosanto throws sister out of his school” (Dan was never present on that occasion, and Lilia was never “thrown out”- when Dan asked Lilia about this, her response was “It was John’s idea”) ; “Cass Magda not invited to Dan Inosanto’s daughter’s wedding,” (now, there is some pertinent
martial arts information); or how about the column on Dan’s mother
after her death, a piece which offended Dan deeply, and had no place in a martial art publication. I could go on and on with quotes attributed to Dan, all of which he never said, but this would be a
waste of both your time and mine, and I am sure you have an idea now of what Dan has had to put up with partly because of your irresponsible publications. Should you personally be interested in more than “varying opinions” from unqualified and uncertified individuals, and getting to the truth about Jeet Kune Do, the art and the students of the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute, our door is always open to you too!


There is one paragraph in your letter which, quite frankly, shocked and appalled Dan. John indicated “he has given Dan
preferential treatment,” when in fact, every lie, misquote, or damaging piece of information in your publication apparently leads right back to John himself as the author, or person responsible for its

appearance in the magazine. We would like to make one thing perfectly clear; we have no “familial ties” with John Soet. John married Dan’s sister Lilia Howe, but by no stretch of the imagination did he become a member of our family. He is not now nor has he
ever been considered “family.” There are no past misunderstandings
where Mr. Soet is concerned. He has always been perfectly understood, his views and feelings concerning my husband and members of his family, as stated over and over again in letters and documents that comprise a file almost as large as the inaccurate information in the magazines.

You ask if there is anything you can do to make this up to Dan. What do you think can be done to unravel the morass created by your disingenuous publications, and to remove the grief experienced by us
arising from the cloud you have placed over the reputation of one of
the most honest, sincere, compassionate, knowledgeable and decent
human beings the martial arts world has ever known?
Sincerely,
Paula L. Inosanto
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Mr.

Wi Kali Group,
Here's just a word of advice for those who use the Inosanto letter of 1993 as some type of a endorsement to ridicule others. The letter when viewed in it's entirety really shows a most unpleasant and unattractive face for Dan and Paula. They demonstrate a type of arrogance, "we do not approve" of the magazine writing a feature with out the Inosanto approval" that we would rather not see. They claim that Bruce Lee's "other" students were really Dan's students. They, not Bruce, created JKDC.
Is it no wonder that the Bruce Lee estate took them to court...and they lost!

"The Lee Estate, operating under the legal alias of Concord Moon, took the Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts to court in order to prevent them using the name Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do. After a lengthy lawsuit the Lee Estate won, and therefore neither Guro Inosanto nor The Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts can use the name Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do."

If I were Dan or Paula I would I would be embarrassed that anyone would read the letter.

There is talk about a class action suit being placed against the wealthy Inosanto Academy to seek damages to all those mentioned in the letter. They could end up in court again for the libel contained in the letter.

To most of us Dan Inosanto is a humble and caring master.
Here for perhaps the first, and let's hope only time, you see the dark side. It's not very flattering.
Let's move on.

[Sgt Jim]

I am afraid that anything negative that Jerry Beasley has to say concerning Dan has to be questioned. He certainly has demonstrated in the past that he is no friend of Inosanto. I attended a JKD seminar many years ago conducted by Beasley. Beasley stated to the entire crowd that he was told that if Larry Hartsell and Dan Inosanto were walking down the street together and attacked, Dan would run away. Larry would be the one to stand and fight. This and other silly comments in the past that are more of personal attacks rather than facts has demonstrated that he has a personal problem with Inosanto. Beasley years ago was attempting to start a consultation business on how to make a lot of money in the martial arts and certainly desired to cash in on the interest in JKD. He wrote a few books but lacking any credentials in JKD he asked his good friend Joe Lewis to give him a JKD certification. Lewis having trained with Bruce Lee was the justification for this certification. To the JKD community this really had the appearance of straining credibility to cash in. Sorry to be so blunt, but having read some of what has been written here, I couldn’t hold back.