Bruce Lee Foundation - Official Jun Fan JKD

[ASHTANGA05]

Garland,

Quit getting uptight as you got aptly exposed as a complete ignoramus, grow up deal with it move on. And please go read & learn more before speaking on a subject, it helps a great deal.

[Tim McFatridge]

Garland... Ash...after reading both of your post on here I have come to the conclusion that you are both going to have to agree to disagree on this one. You both have your views and are both entitled to them but you will never convince the other one to see it your way and agree. Now most people would pay upwards of $200 an hour for that kind of counseling but I am giving it to you for free on here jsut because I am a nice guy and in the words of Rodney King "can't we all just get along"

[Garland]

Seeing as Mr. Poteet was instructed by Inosanto and Ted Lucay Lucay.


...as I don't agree with your buddy your mug slinging with YOU are incorrect here.....Ted didn't instructor Jerry Poteet.....Bruce Lee taught Jerry as in was in the first group that trained in LA.....Five of the seniors trained at BL house.......Dan did Certified Jerry as an Instructor in JKD.......This is all facts

This is where I got my info, seeing as I'm really not into the personal training history of every member of Bruce Lee's original group;

"08-13-2006, 04:38 PM #2
Tim McFatridge
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Join Date: May 2006
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Most of your questions should be answered by Mr. Poteet himself. He is the only one who will be able to give you the cost involved with training with him and the cost involved in maintaining your certification through him. You can always train with different people....I would suggest that if you ask him about training with other original students of Bruce Lee and he gives you a less than positive answer...or if he tells you not to train with this guy or that guy for whatever reasons then I would make it a point not to train with him in the future. He is certified by Dan Inosanto. He and Ted Lucaylucay were the first two people to be certified by Dan from his backyard group.
Good luck with your training and I hope it goes well for you.
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Tim McFatridge
Prime Academy Martial Arts
JKD Kali Association -
www.jkdkali.com"

[Garland]

Funny...when somebody tells him to go **** himself, he starts talking all sorts of shit about ratting me out. Oh me oh my!

After all the shit he talked on Guro Dan, his whole organization, and Khuen Khru Bernales, he seems to think that they'll come to his aide and boot me from their schools because I told him to eat a dick....?


Seriously, ASH...do you even buy that bullshit? Do you think you can order everyone around? **** who you are, the better question is this; WHO THE **** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

[Garland]

Interesting to see the other threats comming from this ASH guy;
this is a PM from ASHTANGA05 to yours-truly;

"Inosanto Group
You will soon get BAN for life from Inosanto's group , trust me it is coming! Bernales will boot you out his classes & nobody else will take you on , just watch trust me it's coming!

Good Luck."

[John McNabney]

Seeing as Mr. Poteet was instructed by Inosanto and Ted Lucay Lucay.


...as I don't agree with your buddy your mug slinging with YOU are incorrect here.....Ted didn't instructor Jerry Poteet.....Bruce Lee taught Jerry as in was in the first group that trained in LA.....Five of the seniors trained at BL house.......Dan did Certified Jerry as an Instructor in JKD.......This is all facts

[jubaji]

You and hOmoPlata are the Batman and Robin of pathetic

You have also been aptly exposed as being incredibly ignorant on JKD, and you have clearly read very little on it also, everyone can see it.

What everyone can see is that you are an annoying little punk with a hero-worship complex. Now STFU

[ASHTANGA05]

Garland,

As others are wondering what Dan would make of this? I think he would be deeply ashamed to be even remotely connected with someone like yourself.

You talk like a 14/15 year old high school kid - 'eat a dick & choke on it' , etc. Incredibly Immature.

You have also been aptly exposed as being incredibly ignorant on JKD, and you have clearly read very little on it also, everyone can see it.

[Garland]

No you shouldn't. This little punk won't understand that.

as always...I agree with the devil on my other shoulder. Thanks Juju for showing me MY path!

[jubaji]

spare the rod and spoil the dumb-ass

Oh well...yeah, I should take the example from Guro Dan and be a much more reserved and nice guy....

No you shouldn't. This little punk won't understand that.

[Garland]

Garland,

As for your 'Eat a dick & choke on it ' etc, only goes to show how incredibly immature you are! What would Dan make of it as somebody mentioned, I think he would be deeply ashamed to be remotely connected to you.

You are incredibly ignorant on JKD, make numerous ill informed statements that are factually incorrect, & clearly have read very little on the subject.

Maybe your knowledge on other arts is a bit better if so I would recommend go to those forums & stay of the JKD one.

Who do you train with? And what is your name? How long have you been training JKD to make you an authority on the subject, certainly less than a year based upon the "Jerry Poteet" post.

My guess is that you read a couple of books, paid a membership fee to this former nucleus group, and now simply tow their "party line". Goddamned martial arts politics.

Oh well...yeah, I should take the example from Guro Dan and be a much more reserved and nice guy...I try, but hey, like I've said before, not everyone can be a Guro Dan .

[Garland]

ODDLY ENOUGH...he appears to have had no training under any group or instructor even while making this claim, as his fourth post states, he was still looking into FINDING A TRAINER.


"Training & Getting Certified With Jerry Poteet
Am considering training & getting certified in the future with Jerry Poteet. Can anyone who has already done so, tell me their experiences? Also anyone not certified who has trained with him, would be cool to hear from.

I've never met him before, but he is a direct Bruce Lee student & obviously very knowledgable.

What is his teaching method like, is he a really good teacher that really develops an individual?

How does the certification process work - you are formally tested (like a grading) , or based more on hours trained?

Does Jerry Poteet JKD Association have different levels of Instructor? Or once certified you just keep progressing?

Future costs - after initial fee to train with Jerry , do you need to pay the same or similar for future training to progress?

To get Jerry to do seminar , is it expensive i.e, to bring him to where you are to do seminar?

Is the JPJKD Association involved with Bruce Lee Foundation - the Lee Estate?

Is it worth the money to get certified by Jerry Poteet or not? Is it you pay , you get certified or you have to work hard for it?

How 'exclusive' is the JPJKD Association are you not allowed to train with other Bruce Lee students - Jesse Glover, Ted Wong, Dan Inosanto, etc & must only train with Jerry or people in the group?


To do personal training with Jerry Poteet is expensive , so would like to hear of other peoples experiences before doing so; I read for instance on here of people's bad experiences with Paul Vunak.

Have seen all Jerry's DVD's and they are really good.

THANK YOU!

Also if anyone knows how long did Jerry Poteet actually train with Bruce Lee , as I heard from as little as 6 months & very infrequently at classes, to a few years and trained with him often?"


Seeing as Mr. Poteet was instructed by Inosanto and Ted Lucay Lucay...I doubt ASH's mentality comes from here...which means...I don't know who, or where, or even IF ASH has EVER trained in JKD or Jun Fan under ANYONE.
Maybe he's self taught?

[ASHTANGA05]

Garland,

As for your 'Eat a dick & choke on it ' etc, only goes to show how incredibly immature you are! What would Dan make of it as somebody mentioned, I think he would be deeply ashamed to be remotely connected to you.

You are incredibly ignorant on JKD, make numerous ill informed statements that are factually incorrect, & clearly have read very little on the subject.

Maybe your knowledge on other arts is a bit better if so I would recommend go to those forums & stay of the JKD one.

[Garland]

His first few posts about a Pavel Tsutoline stretching video (Systema) and an MMA conditioning regimine to follow.


His Third post was a personal attack on members of the Inosanto lineage, including one directed towards Burton in Burton's forum;

"Question for Burton - Back To Basics?
With the big debate on Original vs Concepts JKD , etc. Both have valid viewpoints.

But have Concepts people been stuck with learning 1001 new techniques, rather than perfecting the basics?

Some Concepts people seem to view Bruce Lee's methods as being outdated , alongside modern MMA type stuff. Which is a great insult to Bruce Lee.

The reality Bruce Lee could have blown away any modern JKD guy with ease , that includes you Burton, Vunak, Erik Paulson, etc. So the value of learning a zillion & one MMA techniques is? And as he could have blown away any modern JKD guy, the cross training & MMA means what exactly?

Take basics like burst jab / or finger jab, Bruce Lee practiced it thousands of times to where he could explode & take most people out. The modern JKD guy has practiced it a bit, then moved onto other things. Yourself Burton, certainly are not explosive in that sense.

Or a simple side kick to lead leg of opponent, Bruce Lee could hit & break anyones leg moving in at him, the modern JKD guy hasn't practiced it nearly enough to be able to do it, though he thinks he has.

Other basics like trapping most modern JKD guys are shit at it, that includes you Burton if we are being honest, and again no explosiveness in trapping. Bruce Lee trained it to spring on an opponent from distance & attack. Others like Matt Thornton Straight Blast say trapping does not work, as they have not practiced it hard enough to make it work; and besides if it didn't work , Bruce Lee would never have advocated it."

[Garland]

How do you think Guro Inosanto would have reacted even if ash had said what he did to his face?

All of the people named now, don't have any need to use Bruces name for anything, they are respected martial artists in their own right.

So a no named guy wants to talk harshly about respected martial artists. Obviously he isn't interested in proving they are wrong himself. Otherwise he'd show up and tell Guro Inosanto that he's going to teach him the "error of his ways"

I think Guro Dan probably would probably ignore this type of thing, he has a great deal more humility and tact, not to mention more he's much more reasonable than I am. It seems like he'd let this stuff slide, especially because it's coming from a no name heckler.

No doubt...they are all incredibly accomplished and continue to progress in the martial arts community, even though they don't have the notoriety of popularity reaped mainly by Sigung Lee's movie career to fall back on.

Ha! This guy won't even reveal his real name...and whatever his bias on JKD, it came from somebody else, and is apparently part of his regular miseducation and indoctrination within this organization he's part of...here, I'll find something for you...