I am Bruce Lee's Original Teacher

[13ang]

This thread makes my head hurt.

[Nips]

Would Jimi stand up to Dimebag Darrel of Pantera?

... You did not just compare the two... you did NOT just put them in the same league... it's like... comparing Fedor to this guy http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/zipzaprap.jpg

OK - all respect indended to Dimebag (RIP), but as far as guitarists go, he'll never be considered a great. Ever. Especially in the same league as Hendrix. As far as technique, you could compare him to people like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen etc, but it wasn't Hendrix's technique that made him the man, it was his soul and the complete non-conventional way he jammed. Hendrix is interesting in that he's really the only person considered "all that and a bag of patato chips", that is never really disputed by people in the same area. I've only ever heard one guitarist ever say that Hendrix was over rated, and he got the beat down like you wouldn't believe. But yeah, Hendrix is really just the undisputed champ of the modern guitar.

[Hardball]

No worries, but it's an interesting parallel.
Jimi was (according to media) cutting edge for the day, as was Bruce.
You can't help but wonder how either of them would be regarded 30/40 odd years on after they died?

Would Jimi stand up to Dimebag Darrel of Pantera?
Would Bruce stand up to (insert UFC champion of choice)?

Snapshots in time.

Who knows where we'd be if they hadn't been around?

Bruce being an Actor would probably be better compared to a Jet Li or Jackie Chan.

[Troll Virus]

Bruce being an Actor would probably be better compared to a Jet Li or Jackie Chan.

Yeah, that's fair.
In light of the kind of acting he did, I find him to have more depth than JC, but you could say JC is mostly always thinking about comedic entertainment values?

[Hardball]

Yeah, that's fair.
In light of the kind of acting he did, I find him to have more depth than JC, but you could say JC is mostly always thinking about comedic entertainment values?

In the early days jack chan did serious traditional stuff set in old Asia. The goofy comic Jack Chan made his mark in multiple attack scenes. He is great at defending against a jump. He uses weapons of opportunity and can turn anything into a viable weapon of defense.

[Troll Virus]

... You did not just compare the two... you did NOT just put them in the same league... it's like... comparing Fedor to this guy

No, you're right, I didn't.
I asked how one dead guitar player stood up to another.
Nothing conclusive ever comes out of these comparisons.

OK - all respect indended to Dimebag (RIP), but as far as guitarists go, he'll never be considered a great. Ever.

[shrugs]Depends who you talk to[/shrugs]

Hendrix is interesting in that he's really the only person considered "all that and a bag of patato chips", that is never really disputed by people in the same area. I've only ever heard one guitarist ever say that Hendrix was over rated, and he got the beat down like you wouldn't believe. But yeah, Hendrix is really just the undisputed champ of the modern guitar.

You need to get out more.
I know several guitar players who don't rate Hendrix.
I know several guitar players who could wipe the floor with him blindfolded.
I also defend Hendrix, insisting that they consider the context of what was going on in his 'day and age', which is kind of the way I look at Bruce Lee too.
A lot of it's down to personal taste.

I'm in the music industry btw.

[Tom Yum]

I'm in the music industry btw.

Barbershop quartets?

[Troll Virus]

Barbershop quartets?

Nope, I twang Katie Tunstalls G String for on a regular basis though.

[Hardball]

This thread makes my head hurt.

What do you think now? Head still hurting. LOL

[kuk sool won]

What do you think now? Head still hurting. LOL

Its true, Lenny Hendry isn't funny.

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I know several guitar players who could wipe the floor with him blindfolded.

Well, it's difficult because it's not like there's a definitive winner with music, as compared to fighting. If Bruce Lee got re-incarnated in his prime and fought to the death with no rules against Fedor, the winner would be the winner, and considered the better fighter. If you re-incarnated Hendrix and got him to have a guitar duel against Joe Satriani, it'd be complete personal opinion on who was the better guitarist. But all in all, if you mean by "could wipe the floor with hendrix", that they could play faster or more showy than him, then as a personal opinion I don't call that better playing. The term "less is more" comes to mind - David Gilmour never played extremely flashy or technical, but I consider him and Hendrix my two favourite guitarists. Why? Because they were inventive and interesting to listen to (I get bored to death watching G3s... except moments of Petrucci's and Malmsteen's sets), and what they played PERFECTLY fit what song they were playing. There are two types of guitarists - one who goes "What can I do here" and another who goes "What should I do here". So yeah, as you said, it's all about opinion, and personally I give far more respect to the latter of the two forms of guitarists. Each to their own ^_^.

I also defend Hendrix, insisting that they consider the context of what was going on in his 'day and age'

Yeah well that's it, Hendrix was a pioneer (this is opinion ofcourse), he showed the world what could really be done with the instrument, other people have polished what has already been done, and trippled the bpm

Barbershop quartets?

AHAHAHAHAHA

What do you do in the music industry TV? (Genuine interest here)

[Garland]

I am hardball's original teacher. Also, I wrote the book of five rings and tore an arm from Grendel then later took it's head as a trophy.

Damn dude! That ain't shit...I once caught a fly with toothpicks. Let's see Ralph Maccio do THAT shit.

[g-bells]

snatch the pebble from my hand grasshopper

[Troll Virus]

Well, it's difficult because it's not like there's a definitive winner with music, as compared to fighting.

Ooooh, what a blooper.

If Bruce Lee got re-incarnated in his prime and fought to the death with no rules against Fedor, the winner would be the winner, and considered the better fighter.

You've seen one of them act on a screen, and another one compete in sport.

If you re-incarnated Hendrix and got him to have a guitar duel against Joe Satriani, it'd be complete personal opinion on who was the better guitarist. But all in all, if you mean by "could wipe the floor with hendrix", that they could play faster or more showy than him, then as a personal opinion I don't call that better playing.

When I say 'wipe the floor' I mean in every aspect, be it musicality or technical ability.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hendrix, as a guitar player, just wasn't 'all that'.
In fact he was pretty shocking.
Nor was he quite the innovator you'd believe, but history has painted him that way.

The term "less is more" comes to mind - David Gilmour never played extremely flashy or technical

A lot of Dave Gilmours best work involves some very complicated string-bending.
Definitely technical.

Yeah well that's it, Hendrix was a pioneer (this is opinion ofcourse), he showed the world what could really be done with the instrument,

Not in a million years he didn't.
Look into Django Reinhardt, Chet Atkins etc prior to him, or more contemporary players like Brian Setzer.
None of whom choked on their own vomit to crystallize their careers.

What do you do in the music industry TV? (Genuine interest here)

Bout all there is to do.

[Sagacious Lu]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hendrix, as a guitar player, just wasn't 'all that'.