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[fenwick99]

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Mr. Franco: I have always appreciated your views and learned a great deal from your posts. If you have decided to move on from an association with WNG or jkd in general, all I can say is that I respect your views, and wish you the best. Bruce himself said that jkd is like a boat to get to the other side of the shore; once you are there, you need not carry the boat on your back. If some teachers would rather move on from jkd or break ties with certain established jkd experts, we should just wish them well, and move on ourselves. And it is none of my business to know the nature of your decision. Thanks,
Brad

[Rudy Franco]

Give me a call and find out.

If I don't answer I will call you back.

Who you chose to consider as pretty well-respected members of the martial arts community is your business, if you know what to respect them for in the first place.The WNG is not the same and never will be now that Tackett's senior student and us have gone our own ways. If all you want are seminar instructors and a high turn over rate as your measure of success, go for it and have at it. Call me old fashion, but I still believe you should have a foundation from which to grow and doing a couple of seminars here and there does not make a qualified instructor. Being called an asshole,prick and egotist, may hurt your lame ass feelings, it just helps me sleep better at night. If you actually knew me and/or trained with me, you would have nothing but good things to say about me. But trust me, more that likely we will never even cross paths. Don't let the magazine articles and Videos fool you, I was there and know what it's all about. Mike, I believe they are looking for instructors, maybe you can use your posts as a way into the WNG.

PS ask Tackett/ADMIN why am I now banned from their forum and why he took down the statement from there. He claims to be about free speech or is that only when it only good news about your garage group.

Good luck...

909-234-3015

Rudy

[IPON]

Being called an asshole,prick and egotist, may hurt your lame ass feelings, it just helps me sleep better at night.

Sad, very sad!! All those wasted days of MA training..sigh you may be better off hosting seminars.

Like Mike stated, what is the reason for the post? Just to feel self important? Or was it the completly new concept of "this isn't real JKD"

This post was like OJ having a press conference to announce that he was a former football player, bad actor and (alleged) murderer pointless (YAWN!!!)

Please keep contributing more insigh..ummm....informativ.....ummmm, never mind don't bother the 7 step to salvation was more than enough. Couldn't ask for more comming from such a solid instructor (hey your right this might make me sleep better at night)

PS the name is IPON no last name (its an entertainment thing)

[ncgf]

Chunky-butt (Rudy),

Since you feel the need to resort to name calling, I will play along. Look, chubs, while I realize you arent the sharpeset tool in the shed, and that your whole claim to fame is that you follow this Lloyd guy around on a leash, you never answered the questions I put to you.

Exactly how and when have you served your country. Those of who have and do would like to know. Or is it that you get your military and law enforcement "experiences" vicariously from your teacher? That seems to be the case, trekkie-boy.

For that matter, except for your association with this Lloyd character and for that matter, the WNG, what have you ever done yourself that was special? hello, what have yyou ever done for anyone else beside yourself?

And, to answer your one lame attempt to deflect the questions about yoursself and your service (or lack thereof) - I have no affiliation with the WNG. I have seen Tackett post here, and I understand that he has served his country in the Air Force. You should offer him respect if for only that reason. I get so pissed that people like you, who have never done anything for this country, who are so self absorbed (and for no reason since you have done nothing special in life or for anyone but yourself) get on and criticize others who have served. I also have seen nothing but repsectful responses on the forum from Mr. Tackett. What he did in his forum is irrelevant here, oh obese-one.

You should have dealt with it there, between him and you, man-to-man, instead of this cowardly way. none of have anything to do with it, and frankly, really dont care. If you cant add to the forum, then dont post.

Some of us use reading this forum as a way of stress release and entertainment and some of us dont have all the time in the world to do so.

I wonder if your teacher taught this lack of respectful ways? Hell, I wonder if it was your teacher is the one who taught you the fine art of eating (which you appear to be so good at)? I will have to thank you, though, for some reason you reminded me of the book on the bombing of Nagasaki that I wanted to start reading. That bit of humor may be a little too intellectual fo you...lol.

You said - I can keep it going as long as you would like it to continue. of course you can, you have nothing better to do than sit at home in front of your keyboard, stretch your peacock feathers, unnecessarily disrespect others in public, watch star trek, and oh, lets not forget, eat (you seem to have done plenty of that...lol)

I feel Mike Brewer summed it up beautifully. You are the one who chose to air it in this public forum when there was no need. That act was about your need to reinforce your petty little ego. If you are willing to air others dirty laundry in public, then lets have a look at yours. I am glad that you have gotten more positive than negative responses to your post. Many with low-self esteeem need such reinforcement. So as Mr. Brewer said, you began this, now either explain it fully so we can make up our own minds about who did what to whom, or let it go.

So, while I dont have your free time (some of us are serving meaningful existences), if I am so inclined to, I will answer you when and if you would like, at least when I have the chance to access a computer. I am sure you have more time than me, all you have to do is put down the chicken leg, wipe off your greasy fingers (hopefully), and sit down in your nice cozy, air-conditioned home at the computer. Some do not have that luxury at present.

NCGF

P.S.
I choose not to identify my name since I cannot afford to have fat, crazy, star trek watching wannabees harrassing me. Anyone who has been in the military knows that a bunch of calls aken well by the CO. There are also certain times you are not supposed to be doing certain things. But then, you would have no idea of that now, would you...lol. Anyway, the name should give those who know an idea of my training background.

[Thai Bri]

Truly, a great thread.

Love it!

[John McNabney]

As I don't want to get into anyone's business, I do have to say something......This isn't against anyone, but an observation of having over 37 yrs of MA experience......


Here we go: The days of the same old - same old JKD basic seminars are over with.....The days of people with holding information back are over with.....The days of ass kissing to get a head or rank in something, has been exposed.....The days of being "Entitled" are over with....The seminar process of the 90's is over with.....People are more educated now and know the difference between being bullshited, or being taught information....


I have seen to many people ass kissing - positioning......For a long time it seem to me that people think cause someone has a DVD or writes articles and books that they are an expert or master....My friends anyone can write or do a DVD, its simple......Once again doesn't mean your are "Entitled or Have Arrived"......As far as JKD, its has become JKD LITE over the years of ass kissing - positioning without having the ability to actual know how to fight....But on a different note, there are some ass thumper's out there, they are far and few.....To me and my understanding Jeet Kune Do is first and foremost its about fighting and in this process we find out about oursleves.....Who we really are.....Its not suppose to make us think that we have arrived and/or that we are "King of all JKD Land" and "Entitled"......If you call yourself MA, than baby.......It never ends, as a student of art and life...!


Keep "IT" Real,
John McNabney

[Rudy Franco]

Give me a call and find out.

If I don't answer I will call you back.

Who you chose to consider as pretty well-respected members of the martial arts community is your business, if you know what to respect them for in the first place.The WNG is not the same and never will be now that Tackett's senior student and us have gone our own ways. If all you want are seminar instructors and a high turn over rate as your measure of success, go for it and have at it. Call me old fashion, but I still believe you should have a foundation from which to grow and doing a couple of seminars here and there does not make a qualified instructor. Being called an asshole,prick and egotist, may hurt your lame ass feelings, it just helps me sleep better at night. If you actually knew me and/or trained with me, you would have nothing but good things to say about me. But trust me, more that likely we will never even cross paths. Don't let the magazine articles and Videos fool you, I was there and know what it's all about. Mike, I believe they are looking for instructors, maybe you can use your posts as a way into the WNG.

PS ask Tackett/ADMIN why am I now banned from their forum and why he took down the statement from there. He claims to be about free speech or is that only when it only good news about your garage group.

Good luck...

909-234-3015

Rudy

Refer to response above..

[Rudy Franco]

Chunky-butt (Rudy),

Since you feel the need to resort to name calling, I will play along. Look, chubs, while I realize you arent the sharpeset tool in the shed, and that your whole claim to fame is that you follow this Lloyd guy around on a leash, you never answered the questions I put to you.

Exactly how and when have you served your country. Those of who have and do would like to know. Or is it that you get your military and law enforcement "experiences" vicariously from your teacher? That seems to be the case, trekkie-boy.

For that matter, except for your association with this Lloyd character and for that matter, the WNG, what have you ever done yourself that was special? hello, what have yyou ever done for anyone else beside yourself?

And, to answer your one lame attempt to deflect the questions about yoursself and your service (or lack thereof) - I have no affiliation with the WNG. I have seen Tackett post here, and I understand that he has served his country in the Air Force. You should offer him respect if for only that reason. I get so pissed that people like you, who have never done anything for this country, who are so self absorbed (and for no reason since you have done nothing special in life or for anyone but yourself) get on and criticize others who have served. I also have seen nothing but repsectful responses on the forum from Mr. Tackett. What he did in his forum is irrelevant here, oh obese-one.

You should have dealt with it there, between him and you, man-to-man, instead of this cowardly way. none of have anything to do with it, and frankly, really dont care. If you cant add to the forum, then dont post.

Some of us use reading this forum as a way of stress release and entertainment and some of us dont have all the time in the world to do so.

I wonder if your teacher taught this lack of respectful ways? Hell, I wonder if it was your teacher is the one who taught you the fine art of eating (which you appear to be so good at)? I will have to thank you, though, for some reason you reminded me of the book on the bombing of Nagasaki that I wanted to start reading. That bit of humor may be a little too intellectual fo you...lol.

You said - I can keep it going as long as you would like it to continue. of course you can, you have nothing better to do than sit at home in front of your keyboard, stretch your peacock feathers, unnecessarily disrespect others in public, watch star trek, and oh, lets not forget, eat (you seem to have done plenty of that...lol)

I feel Mike Brewer summed it up beautifully. You are the one who chose to air it in this public forum when there was no need. That act was about your need to reinforce your petty little ego. If you are willing to air others dirty laundry in public, then lets have a look at yours. I am glad that you have gotten more positive than negative responses to your post. Many with low-self esteeem need such reinforcement. So as Mr. Brewer said, you began this, now either explain it fully so we can make up our own minds about who did what to whom, or let it go.

So, while I dont have your free time (some of us are serving meaningful existences), if I am so inclined to, I will answer you when and if you would like, at least when I have the chance to access a computer. I am sure you have more time than me, all you have to do is put down the chicken leg, wipe off your greasy fingers (hopefully), and sit down in your nice cozy, air-conditioned home at the computer. Some do not have that luxury at present.

NCGF

P.S.
I choose not to identify my name since I cannot afford to have fat, crazy, star trek watching wannabees harrassing me. Anyone who has been in the military knows that a bunch of calls aken well by the CO. There are also certain times you are not supposed to be doing certain things. But then, you would have no idea of that now, would you...lol. Anyway, the name should give those who know an idea of my training background.

Dearest Non Certified Gay Fella,

You crack me up.

I answer to no man especially one that has his head so far up Tacketts ass he wipes his mouth with toilet paper and his ass with a napkin. Okay, Thanks Tackett for handing out towels during your Air Force special services time in R.O.C., so you might as well thanks me for my 4 years of Junior ROTC training. What make you so f***ing special?

"Some of us use reading this forum as a way of stress release and entertainment and some of us dont have all the time in the world to do so."

Who asked you to get involved and get your sugar up? Maybe you should read a book or here's an idea "TRAIN". Does mongo like books?

Thanks for the memories..


Rudy

[Thai Bri]

I'm with Rudy on this.

OK, he's been a total arse wipe at the moment..... but I do like to be contraire!

[Hardball]

I visited Rudy's website and got more insight but it doesn't make sense to take on the whole JKD establisment especially when most of his website talks about Japanese Jujutsu.

[Tom Yum]

Dearest Non Certified Gay Fella,

You crack me up.

I answer to no man especially one that has his head so far up Tacketts ass he wipes his mouth with toilet paper and his ass with a napkin. Okay, Thanks Tackett for handing out towels during your Air Force special services time in R.O.C., so you might as well thanks me for my 4 years of Junior ROTC training. What make you so f***ing special?

"Some of us use reading this forum as a way of stress release and entertainment and some of us dont have all the time in the world to do so."

Who asked you to get involved and get your sugar up? Maybe you should read a book or here's an idea "TRAIN". Does mongo like books?

Thanks for the memories..


Rudy

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome Uke back to the forum.

Looks like he's come back to try to spark a fued between JKD schools. So much drama, so little time.

[Hardball]

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome Uke back to the forum.

Looks like he's come back to try to spark a fued between JKD schools. So much drama, so little time.

I don't think so. I did my detective work. LOL. Rudy Franco Joined defend in Jan 2006. The first post in this thread has a link to his website. His website has a pic of Rudy Franco. By-the-way where is Uke, I thought you said he was Dickhardman?

[Rudy Franco]

what I do know is that you came in here bashing people, airing out your dirty laundry and using inclusive terms in your personal attacks that umbrella the whole Inosanto group as well. That's shitty.

And yes...you DO owe us an explaination...you're the outsider who came in on a high fucking horse...if you feel you don't owe us one, then butt the **** out. I don't particularilly give a rat's ass what your story is...all that matters to me is that you've shown yourself to be a disruptive douche bag with some sort of alterior motive to his posts.

Do you even realize you're being an asshole?
Do you even know the mixed group you're addressing?

Garland,

It's gonna be alright, I swear it is. I didn't say anything about Dan Inosanto or the IMB, you are making that connection. You all have my number give me a call, if it is bothering you so much. For somebody who doesn't give a rat's ass, you are sure making a big deal about this. Also, if you think I am on a high horse, state your case and knock me off of it. But, that's right you don't know shit about it, and what you do know I told you. Do you even realize you sound like a punk. Please introduce the mixed group, I am speaking about, if you can. Douche bags are good they keep pussies like you clean.

Rudy

[Tom Yum]

I don't think so. I did my detective work. LOL. Rudy Franco Joined defend in Jan 2006. The first post in this thread has a link to his website. His website has a pic of Rudy Franco. By-the-way where is Uke, I thought you said he was Dickhardman?

...multiple profiles?

[Rudy Franco]

I visited Rudy's website and got more insight but it doesn't make sense to take on the whole JKD establishment especially when most of his website talks about Japanese Jujutsu.

What particular establishment are you speaking of:

The JKD WNG
OBLS JKD
Original JKD
JKD Concepts
Hardcore JKD
Poteet JKD
Wong JKD
Old School JKD
New School JKD
Future School JKD

Their are so many factions and fractions of factions that I need clarity as well. And, before everybody gets more brain damage, I am talking about the WNG.