Who did Bruce lee actually fight?

[jules]

I am saying that the skill level is low when it comes to throws in the Ultimate fighting championships.

What's the point of trowing in an MMA match? Just trip him, pound him for a while and try to get a submission on him.

[/quote]That the Gracies won at first because their skill level was higher than everyone else's. Now 40 some uFC'S LATER EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO AND WHAT TO EXPECT ARM BARS, CHOKES ETC.[/quote]

And those skills are still used to finish fights.

The reason the gracies won the no time limit fights is because there was no time limit !duh

what's wrong with that?

[Cain]

so.. you guys think it would be better with 1 minute rounds, no grappling, no kicking below the belt, light contact.. and renaming ufc to upc? ultimate pussy championships? :P

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Yeah, but I thought I established that Mas was crazy. I mean he killed a guy in a street fight because he was hitting on a chick. He beat the crap out of one of his superior officers in the air force. The dude attacked TREES AND ROCKS! He fought bulls barehanded. He got gored by a bull, was in the hospital for six months, and then came back to fight more bulls. Did I mention he attacked inanimate objects in the forest for months on end? I think he was enamored of the Prussian Empire too. I mean, sure, Mas was a super badass, but half of that comes from being totally insane. Don't fight guys that attack rocks, its just a bad idea. Or guys that fight bulls without swords.

Heres a strategy for beating him, when the two of you are starting the fight, throw as many rocks and pebbles at him as you can. When he gets confused with which one to fight, pick up a sharp stone and bash him on the head with it.

[ultraphine]

wong jack man

Bruce fought wong jack man , this was the fight dramatised in dragon.

There has been so much bullshit spread about this fight, it wasnt a match to decide whether bruce could teach foreigners as wong jack already had white and hispanic students at the time, it was supposed to be just a challenge match period.

from the people ive spoken to man held back from using any lethal techniques wheras bruce went all out from the beginning, using biu gee and other nasty techniques (this is pretty normal for a wing chun practitioner, hence the reason it is sometimes called the gangster fist in hong kong) wong supposedly had bruce in a choke hold three times during the fight from which he released bruce each time only to have him comer back at him.


However even wong admits that bruce became a much better fighter later in life. As for his early days, my sifu told me that bruce was always getting into scraps but he simply wasnt in the same league as his fellow wing chun students, and he was never invited by them to take part in the rooftop challenge mathes that took place between them and the local choy lay fut schools.

Plus from what ive heard he wasnt too succesful in bei mo fights during training either, but having said that yip man obviously saw3 something in him or he wouldnt have encouraged william cheung to tutor him on the side

[akja]

Re: wong jack man

Originally posted by ultraphine
Bruce fought wong jack man , this was the fight dramatised in dragon.

There has been so much bullshit spread about this fight, it wasnt a match to decide whether bruce could teach foreigners as wong jack already had white and hispanic students at the time, it was supposed to be just a challenge match period.

from the people ive spoken to man held back from using any lethal techniques wheras bruce went all out from the beginning, using biu gee and other nasty techniques (this is pretty normal for a wing chun practitioner, hence the reason it is sometimes called the gangster fist in hong kong) wong supposedly had bruce in a choke hold three times during the fight from which he released bruce each time only to have him comer back at him.


However even wong admits that bruce became a much better fighter later in life. As for his early days, my sifu told me that bruce was always getting into scraps but he simply wasnt in the same league as his fellow wing chun students, and he was never invited by them to take part in the rooftop challenge mathes that took place between them and the local choy lay fut schools.

Plus from what ive heard he wasnt too succesful in bei mo fights during training either, but having said that yip man obviously saw3 something in him or he wouldnt have encouraged william cheung to tutor him on the side

Looks like you spread somemore bullshit!

Care to name your source??

[swan104]

For me, I don't care if he actually won or lost that fight. The main thing is that he realised something wasn't right, and went about trying to change it.

[WaTEr]

Hmm...you all argue too much. Maybe if you spent more time training like me and less time arguing you'd be better martial artist's.

This does remind me of a zen story. Let me begin with a Zen story. The story might be familiar to some, but I repeat it for it's appropriateness. Look upon this story as a means of limbering up one's senses, one's attitude and one's mind to make them pliable and receptive. You need that to understand this, otherwise you might as well forget reading any further.

A learned man once went to a Zen teacher to inquire about Zen. As the Zen teacher explained, the learned man would frequently interrupt him with remarks like, "Oh, yes, we have that too...." and so on.

Finally the Zen teacher stopped talking and began to serve tea to the learned man. He poured the cup full, and then kept pouring until the cup overflowed.

"Enough!" the learned man once more interrupted. "No more can go into the cup!"

"Indeed, I see," answered the Zen teacher. "If you do not first empty the cup, how can you taste my cup of tea?"

I hope my comrades in the martial arts will read the following paragraphs with open-mindedness leaving all the burdens of preconceived opinions and conclusions behind. This act, by the way, has in itself liberating power. After all, the usefulness of the cup is in it's emptiness.

[akja]

Originally posted by WaTEr
Hmm...you all argue too much. Maybe if you spent more time training like me and less time arguing you'd be better martial artist's.

This does remind me of a zen story. Let me begin with a Zen story. The story might be familiar to some, but I repeat it for it's appropriateness. Look upon this story as a means of limbering up one's senses, one's attitude and one's mind to make them pliable and receptive. You need that to understand this, otherwise you might as well forget reading any further.

A learned man once went to a Zen teacher to inquire about Zen. As the Zen teacher explained, the learned man would frequently interrupt him with remarks like, "Oh, yes, we have that too...." and so on.

Finally the Zen teacher stopped talking and began to serve tea to the learned man. He poured the cup full, and then kept pouring until the cup overflowed.

"Enough!" the learned man once more interrupted. "No more can go into the cup!"

"Indeed, I see," answered the Zen teacher. "If you do not first empty the cup, how can you taste my cup of tea?"

I hope my comrades in the martial arts will read the following paragraphs with open-mindedness leaving all the burdens of preconceived opinions and conclusions behind. This act, by the way, has in itself liberating power. After all, the usefulness of the cup is in it's emptiness.

And just how much time does a 16 yearold have to train.

And who's arguing anyway? Asking someone for their source is the honorable way.

when they say they personally spoke to someone and then they don't even know the guys real name makes them a fake, fraud, troll. wannabe, or a liar or all of the above.

Theirs no shame in asking for the truth!

[c0bra]

didnt feel like reading after page 1. but if someone already posted this tell me..

bruce lee fought all the time when he was in china filming enter the dragon. people would walk up to him in the streets and challenge him. he fought one guy who was alot bigger then him and the guy was seriously tryin to hurt bruce. and bruce just went out on him, he had him in a headlock and the guys face was all bloody. then another time. bruce was practicing on the set, and someone made it over the wall thing and bruce got so pissed off he kicked the guy as hard as he could.

[Thai Bri]

Horse shit.

At least Water's post made me laugh.

[c0bra]

horse shit? me? try not being so ignorant. I dont know if you know anything about Bruce Lee. But when he was in Hong Kong filming Enter the Dragon people would come up to him all the time, tap their foot three times each and do something with their arm. Which meant they were challenging him. Goto google and look it up.

[Thai Bri]

Well, if its on the internet it must be true. Silly me.

[c0bra]

silly you.. ever seen Curse of the Dragon?

[carter]

cobra is correct, people did challenge bruce lee on the sets. The crew on the Enter the Dragon set, would recall accounts when people would challenge bruce, and then bruce would mopp the floor with them.

It wasnt just the extras that challenged him either, he would get challenged on the streets, and in one incident someone climbed his wall and challenged him at his home, bruce later said he kicked that guy the hardest he had ever kicked anyone.

and i got this info from a website, its not all of the people he has ever fought, but its something..and im not even sure if this info is correct.

"1958:
vs. Gary Elms in a tournament. (Won)

1958 or 1959:
Against Chung on a rooftop in Hong Kong. (Won in 2nd Round)

1960 or 1961:
vs. Uechi. (Won in 10 seconds)"

[WaTEr]

Some of you will just never learn. You should've stopped reading when i told you too. and i quote myself...

This does remind me of a zen story. Let me begin with a Zen story. The story might be familiar to some, but I repeat it for it's appropriateness. Look upon this story as a means of limbering up one's senses, one's attitude and one's mind to make them pliable and receptive. You need that to understand this, otherwise you might as well forget reading any further

And just how much time does a 16 yearold have to train. And who's arguing anyway? Asking someone for their source is the honorable way.

Well first might i say i obviously have more time since im not on here arguing with everybody ( I repeat the smiley for its appropriateness) Now i don't know about you, but if someone tells me something, unless i have other reason i believe otherwise. I know its a crazy thing beliving what people say but call me crazy i do.