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  • #31
    [QUOTE=Spookey]
    Originally posted by MichiganTKD
    Our organization is affiliated with the WTF, and our Instructor is 9th Dan WTF.


    Michigan TKD,

    Might I ask the name of your GrandMaster? What is the organization of your affiliation?

    I know your grandmaster...... and I am sure his is familar with ours.... Grandmaster Young Chul Rho..... 9th dan kukkiwon........ I understand now your instructor just bypasses the USTU...... but the USTU is directly related to the WTF...

    Kind regards

    the ustu and the usoc have worked out everything and the ustu remains the governng body.....

    Tkdman

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    • #32
      ITF vs. WTF

      That is correct. Grandmaster Park is high enough ranking that he doesn't need to be affiliated with the USTU.

      I'm glad to hear that the USOC and the USTU have ironed out their differences. The people I feel sorry for are the students who who paid dues and were victimized by the USTU authorities. They should have been able to trust them, but apparently not.

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      • #33
        Tae Kwon Do politics

        Keep in mind though, Tae Kwon Do politics is something your average TKD practitioner is not going to have any use for. Most people who learn Tae Kwon Do technique, manners, customs etc. will have no use for politics. As you get higher up, perhaps to Master Instructor and beyond, politics is something you will inevitably encounter simply because it is a fact of life. The ones who disdain politics or try to avoid it are the ones who are totally independent, never interacting with other organizations. These guys tend to stay small without much credibility.
        Personally, I am fascinated by TKD politics because it helps me understand why the tae Kwon Do world is the way it is.

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        • #34
          Oath of Taekwon-Do

          [QUOTE=MichiganTKD]Keep in mind though, Tae Kwon Do politics is something your average TKD practitioner is not going to have any use for. [QUOTE]

          "I shall be a champion of fredom and justice"

          For some of it is impairative to learn the politics of TKD, our nation of birth, and possibly our nation of citizenship! Without this knowledge we cannot understand the dynamics required to fight injustice...

          TAEKWON!
          Spookey

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          • #35
            They're's an unbelievable difference!!! While WTF focuses on full contact free sparring (and not much else), ITF is a far more balanced style, with more of an emphasis on the practical application of the art. I do ITF Taekwondo and it's great! You learn great self defense techniques and blocks. The ITF was founded by General Choi Hong Hi six years before his exile from South Korea. After this, the WTF was founded to promote the art. However, in WTF accounts of the beginning of Taekwondo, General Choi Hong Hi is left out entirely. It is my opinion that ITF and WTF Taekwondo are two completely different arts. They have different forms and sparring. ITF uses a technique called Sinewave to generate power in hand strikes and blocks which is not used by the WTF. WTF focuses more on kicking techniques, while ITF is more balanced, using lots of hand strikes. Because of this, ITF Taekwondo is more of a realistic defence system
            ..We have to understand that TKD primarily is use too defence system (build not only physically but also internally-mind and soul)not only for winning in competition/scoring or just to get medal..
            ITF kicks are characterized by a wide trajectory with maximum reach (the classical or traditional technique). The movements and the exercises are performed with the typical ITF "sine wave" (an up-and-down body movement aiming at the increasing of power). When executing a technique, a characteristic hissing sound made by a sudden breathing out through the teeth to tighten the abdominal and protect inner organs in case of counter-attack..
            ITF Taekwondo seeks self-development and spiritual improvement, while WTF Taekwondo seeks superiority over an opponent—winning.

            ITF Taekwondo reflects Eastern values while WTF Taekwondo reflects Western values.

            ITF Taekwondo is process-oriented, WTF Taekwondo is result-oriented.

            ITF Taekwondo is formalized, WTF Taekwondo is not.

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            • #36
              ITF Taekwondo seeks self-development and spiritual improvement, while WTF Taekwondo seeks superiority over an opponent—winning.

              ITF Taekwondo reflects Eastern values while WTF Taekwondo reflects Western values.

              ITF Taekwondo is process-oriented, WTF Taekwondo is result-oriented.

              ITF Taekwondo is formalized, WTF Taekwondo is not.


              Well said..

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              • #37
                Any1 know the lastest news with the ITF and WTF discussing meetings.

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                • #38
                  ITF can't unite with WTF until they unite themselves.

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                  • #39
                    Not exactly...... one of the ITF's is trying to unite with WTF, the other 2 would not. It's mostly political so anything is possible.

                    Damian Mavis
                    Honour TKD Thailand

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                    • #40
                      Oh, I still think that all the ITFs should unite and then try to unite with WTF

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