High Kicks

[Tommy DeVito]

who would want to atack the eyes anyway if the guy isnt trying to kill you.

[sherwinc]

who would want to atack the eyes anyway if the guy isnt trying to kill you.

that is the worst thing you'll learn in kungfu.... why????

because all of its hand attacks are simply ..... DEATH TO THE OPPONENT.

a one strike kill, with full of follow-ups......

NOTE:
KUNGFU is not longer classified as a self-defense but... it is a self-offense type of martial arts and Muay Thai is only classified as a Sport....

CONVINCED?????

[sherwinc]

i attack you using 10 short hand combinations, maybe from 1to5 you can block it but from 6to10 attacks will land on your head... and kungfu can do it at around 20seconds, ..... once you'll hit with that 6 up to 10 short rapid hand fist to the head, a follow-up of 10 short rapid hands again to the head and kungfu can do that in another 20seconds, so........
for just 40seconds i can hit you at least 15 fists landed on your head....

This really shows me Wing Chung is pathetic.It shouldn't take that many hits to hit person to head.Who needs to hit a person 15 times in 40 seconds and who needs 6 to 10 attacks to land on a person's head?

In a real fight I really doubt you're going to want to punch some one that many times in head especially standing up.A real fight should only last 20 to 30 seconds and so you shouldn't have to punch so many times in 40 seconds.Besides if it takes you 40 seconds to punch 15 times then you are pretty damn slow.

PURELY CONVINCED???????

Why is it in every post you ask if we're convinced,isn't it obvious no one is convinced by your stupidity and lack of martial arts knowledge? It is obvious you have no idea how to give good examples.Maybe if you could at least give good examples and explainations we would be at least half convinced.

Do you want to know the answer?????

cause when kungfu hit you first..... then kungfu will hit you all the rest.....

we dont permit you to have a chance to retaliate.....

the purpose is... the hands will stop rapid attacking only if ... if the opponent is dead

CONVINCED??????

[MuayThaiFighter]

that is the worst thing you'll learn in kungfu.... why????

because all of its hand attacks are simply ..... DEATH TO THE OPPONENT.

a one strike kill, with full of follow-ups......

NOTE:
KUNGFU is not longer classified as a self-defense but... it is a self-offense type of martial arts and Muay Thai is only classified as a Sport....

CONVINCED?????

all of its hand attacks are simply ..... DEATH TO THE OPPONENT.

Street fighting can be death to opponent too,don't need martial arts to punch you in the throat which could obviously kill you so that means shit.

KUNGFU is not longer classified as a self-defense but... it is a self-offense type of martial arts and Muay Thai is only classified as a Sport....

Kung Fu is not a self-defense and never was because it will do shit on the street and for the same reason can't be a self-offense art either.

Muay Thai is a sport!!!!!!!!! since when budd? Muay Thai is a martial arts,always has been and most likely always will be.

You act like you know everything about Muay Thai yet you now **** all about it.

First you tell me,that muay thai has no technique of self-defense and just realizes on strength,then you tell me its punches have no power and that Muay Thai is unrealistic, and now you tell me Muay Thai is a sport,hhhhhhhmmm,to me sounds like you are ignorant about Muay Thai and are better off not writing anything about it.

At least Muay Thai unlike Kung Fu and Wing Chun doesn't look like some gay dancing around in suites that look like those of a priest.

[guy incognito]

Likewise you have no idea of KF.Get over your art and realize that anyone better will **** you up no matter what they do.

[sherwinc]

all of its hand attacks are simply ..... DEATH TO THE OPPONENT.

Street fighting can be death to opponent too,don't need martial arts to punch you in the throat which could obviously kill you so that means shit.

KUNGFU is not longer classified as a self-defense but... it is a self-offense type of martial arts and Muay Thai is only classified as a Sport....

Kung Fu is not a self-defense and never was because it will do shit on the street and for the same reason can't be a self-offense art either.

Muay Thai is a sport!!!!!!!!! since when budd? Muay Thai is a martial arts,always has been and most likely always will be.

You act like you know everything about Muay Thai yet you now **** all about it.

First you tell me,that muay thai has no technique of self-defense and just realizes on strength,then you tell me its punches have no power and that Muay Thai is unrealistic, and now you tell me Muay Thai is a sport,hhhhhhhmmm,to me sounds like you are ignorant about Muay Thai and are better off not writing anything about it.

At least Muay Thai unlike Kung Fu and Wing Chun doesn't look like some gay dancing around in suites that look like those of a priest.

Muay Thai has no technique and it only relies on its strength, why????

we can compare it on muaythai types of kicks..... there are only three types of Muay thai kicks.....

1. Push Kick
if you attack me using your left push kick unto my stomach or my solar plexus.... i will defend it using my right NGOCHOKUN kim to break you left knee cap

2. Roundhouse Kick
if you attack me using your left roundhouse kick unto my right head or my right rib.... i will defend it using my #3 level2 CHIDIANBUN hand attack to break you left knee cap

3. Knee Kick
if you attack me using your left knee unto my body... i will defend it using trading blows of WINGCHUN chainpunching 4times to your head

Note:
are there any kicking techniques????? this is what i mean that you have a limited number of kicks and i considered it - no technique..... and the worst is... a kick is only just a kick and nothing more.....

Note:
if i hit you first on your knee cap(destroy kneecap), simultaeneously close the gap and a rapid combinations to you dont know where that kind of attacks came from......

Note:
once you've hit by those unexpected attack(not knowing where it came from) then you still can't accept the truth.... and you will say again to go to rehab, what drugs are you taking, stupid, etc... since you cannot accept the truth.....

Note:
in Science, joints on the knee - when damage - that joints is the most vulnerable joint found in the human body. Healing time is very worst.....

Note:
since muay thai kicking relies on strength and no technique...... it has a thousand tons of force.... but can deflected and neutralize only with TAICHI by using 4 ounches of power......
thus, neutralizing a thousand tons of force by only 4 ounches of taichi power

[Tom Yum]

Muay Thai has no technique and it only relies on its strength, why????

we can compare it on muaythai types of kicks..... there are only three types of Muay thai kicks.....

1. Push Kick
if you attack me using your left push kick unto my stomach or my solar plexus.... i will defend it using my right NGOCHOKUN kim to break you left knee cap

2. Roundhouse Kick
if you attack me using your left roundhouse kick unto my right head or my right rib.... i will defend it using my #3 level2 CHIDIANBUN hand attack to break you left knee cap

3. Knee Kick
if you attack me using your left knee unto my body... i will defend it using trading blows of WINGCHUN chainpunching 4times to your head

thus, neutralizing a thousand tons of force by only 4 ounches of taichi power

1. Could work. Do you practice this move against thai boxers who throw full force push kicks into your gut or guys who stop just short from making contact? Do they follow up with punches as well? If you can still pull this off, lemme know...

2. Could also work. Interesting how you assume that a thaiboxer will throw a high kick right away... How often do you spar thai boxers? Once a week? Once a month? Never

3. You should be prepared to move the hell out of the way if you are in the path of a thai knee kick, then counter with your chain punch. If that knee kick makes contact with your body, its going to break something and knock you down.

You really need to go to a muaythai gym and put these techniques to practice. Seriously.

You need pictures of yourself in a muay thai ring showing your techniques and how effective you use them against a non-compliant real muay thai fighter.

If you do that, I'M CONVINCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sherwinc]

1. Could work. Do you practice this move against thai boxers who throw full force push kicks into your gut or guys who stop just short from making contact? Do they follow up with punches as well? If you can still pull this off, lemme know...

2. Could also work. Interesting how you assume that a thaiboxer will throw a high kick right away... How often do you spar thai boxers? Once a week? Once a month? Never

3. You should be prepared to move the hell out of the way if you are in the path of a thai knee kick, then counter with your chain punch. If that knee kick makes contact with your body, its going to break something and knock you down.

You really need to go to a muaythai gym and put these techniques to practice. Seriously.

You need pictures of yourself in a muay thai ring showing your techniques and how effective you use them against a non-compliant real muay thai fighter.

If you do that, I'M CONVINCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i never sparred any Best Muay Thai Boxers.... but i do believe that the structure of the skin, bones, blood of the black belted Karate / Tae Kwon Do guys is the same compare to an Advanced Muay Thai Fighter......
even kungfu body structure, we have all the same hard skin due to our intense training and body development..... but i insist that TECHNIQUE is the best superior among the rest, if you have plenty of techniques ..... priority that you will win the fight........

and muay thai has less technique......

strong legs of even a 3rd Dan Shorin Ryu Karate Black Belt is the same compare to an Expert Muay Thai's Hard Shin Legs..... due to our continuous training and we have the same skin body components.....

AGREE??????

[MuayThaiFighter]

Muay Thai has no technique and it only relies on its strength, why????

we can compare it on muaythai types of kicks..... there are only three types of Muay thai kicks.....

1. Push Kick
if you attack me using your left push kick unto my stomach or my solar plexus.... i will defend it using my right NGOCHOKUN kim to break you left knee cap

2. Roundhouse Kick
if you attack me using your left roundhouse kick unto my right head or my right rib.... i will defend it using my #3 level2 CHIDIANBUN hand attack to break you left knee cap

3. Knee Kick
if you attack me using your left knee unto my body... i will defend it using trading blows of WINGCHUN chainpunching 4times to your head

Note:
are there any kicking techniques????? this is what i mean that you have a limited number of kicks and i considered it - no technique..... and the worst is... a kick is only just a kick and nothing more.....

Note:
if i hit you first on your knee cap(destroy kneecap), simultaeneously close the gap and a rapid combinations to you dont know where that kind of attacks came from......

Note:
once you've hit by those unexpected attack(not knowing where it came from) then you still can't accept the truth.... and you will say again to go to rehab, what drugs are you taking, stupid, etc... since you cannot accept the truth.....

Note:
in Science, joints on the knee - when damage - that joints is the most vulnerable joint found in the human body. Healing time is very worst.....

Note:
since muay thai kicking relies on strength and no technique...... it has a thousand tons of force.... but can deflected and neutralize only with TAICHI by using 4 ounches of power......
thus, neutralizing a thousand tons of force by only 4 ounches of taichi power

Muay Thai has no technique and it only relies on its strength, why????

HA HA HA HA,every time you say that I have got to laugh.In fact Muay Thai doesn't ever rely on strength we only rely on technique,speed, power, focus,balance,co-ordination and posture.

You think just because we hit hard and do only full contact that we are using strength? The truth is we don't use strength at all.With speed comes power and that's exactly where we get our powerful punches and kicks but guys like you are jealous that we have so much power in every technique we execute so have to blame and use strength as an excuse.Muay Thai fighters believe strength just tires a person out.So I have no clue where you get your freaking information from it definitely isn't from experience in Muay Thai.

I know about Muay Thai since I do it so I would think I know more about it then you and I do.

we can compare it on muaythai types of kicks..... there are only three types of Muay thai kicks.....

Does the amount of types of kicks we have really matter? It's not about how many types of kicks you have it is whether they are effective or not and our kicks are effective.Besides as usual you are wrong,because we have more then just 3 kicks.

1/push kick 2/round house 3/straight knee kick 4/push knee kick 5/ round knee kick


if you attack me using your left roundhouse kick unto my right head or my right rib.... i will defend it using my #3 level2 CHIDIANBUN hand attack to break you left knee cap

You always seem to assume our round house kick always goes for head and ribs,why is that? I believe I already told you that we hardly ever kick to head we usually kick below the waist(shins,knees,inner and outer thigh).

In a real situation you should never assume where a punch or kick is going to be thrown,assumptions can get you beaten up,but you should do your best to be able to block it when it comes directly to you.

Just because a person looks like he may kick or punch you to head doesn't mean he will.

are there any kicking techniques????? this is what i mean that you have a limited number of kicks and i considered it - no technique..... and the worst is... a kick is only just a kick and nothing more.....

Actually yes there are kicking techniques.You have no idea how many kicks we have.A kick is only a kick!!!!!!! maybe to you guys,if so then you need to learn something else or go to a different school.

if i hit you first on your knee cap(destroy kneecap), simultaeneously close the gap and a rapid combinations to you dont know where that kind of attacks came from......

We know how to close gap and fight up close too,you guy aren't the only ones. You think Muay Thai is only for fighting from a distance? If so you are wrong.


Let me give you some advise,get to know more about different styles whether from actually doing it or reading martial arts books about them and stop assuming things then give your opinion or arguement,until then you're better off not saying anything,because you just make yourself look like more of an idiot each time.If you really believe something be able to back it up with examples or something that makes sense.No offense but you really suck at trying to convince people.

[MuayThaiFighter]

i never sparred any Best Muay Thai Boxers.... but i do believe that the structure of the skin, bones, blood of the black belted Karate / Tae Kwon Do guys is the same compare to an Advanced Muay Thai Fighter......
even kungfu body structure, we have all the same hard skin due to our intense training and body development..... but i insist that TECHNIQUE is the best superior among the rest, if you have plenty of techniques ..... priority that you will win the fight........

and muay thai has less technique......

strong legs of even a 3rd Dan Shorin Ryu Karate Black Belt is the same compare to an Expert Muay Thai's Hard Shin Legs..... due to our continuous training and we have the same skin body components.....

AGREE??????

i never sparred any Best Muay Thai Boxers

Ya it shows.

but i do believe that the structure of the skin, bones, blood of the black belted Karate / Tae Kwon Do guys is the same compare to an Advanced Muay Thai Fighter......

Again you are wrong. A muay thai fighter doesn't have same structure as some one in karate or tkd,because these arts usually round house kick with top of their foot (unless they have incorporated our kicks in their style and school.)where as we kick with shins.Also it is the Thai fighters who use their elbows in sparring unless a particular country bands it.Also from my own experience we condition our body differently.

but i insist that TECHNIQUE is the best superior among the rest, if you have plenty of techniques ..... priority that you will win the fight........

Not always true,this is only true if the techniques are effective and most schools like karate,tkd,kung fu,wing chun etc. do not have effective techniques.

More doesn't always mean better,because you can have 100 different techniques that you are only okay with at each one of them or they're not effective then the guy who has few techniques but is very good at applying them and his techniques are more effective then he will win despite how many techniques his opponent has.

It is possible for a guy with only 3 techniques to beat a guy with 1000 techniques if the first guy constantly practices just those 3 techniques and gets very good at them compared to a guy who practices his 1000 techniques but never gets profficient at doing those techniques.

Also the less complicating the techniques are the more effective they are.In a real situation you only have a few seconds to win a fight so when it comes down to it complicating,fancy moves will not work for that reason Kung Fu,Karate,TKD,Wing Chun,Tai Chi etc. will not do much to save your ass in a real situation,not even in a full contact tournament.

I don't agree with anything you say so far.I don't know about everyone else but you have not yet shown me anything that proves you right and nothing convincing.

[guy incognito]

Still no matter what you do the ineffectiveness of high kicks cannot be denied.When I did TKD these kicks rarely found their targets weather I or my opponent used them.Also round house style kicks are easily avoided.Front kicks always are to fast to stop or move out of the way of.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Still no matter what you do the ineffectiveness of high kicks cannot be denied.When I did TKD these kicks rarely found their targets weather I or my opponent used them.Also round house style kicks are easily avoided.Front kicks always are to fast to stop or move out of the way of.

Still no matter what you do the ineffectiveness of high kicks cannot be denied.

I agree 100% but according to Sherwinc that is what MuayThai fighters mostly do,which is B.S.

Also round house style kicks are easily avoided.Front kicks always are to fast to stop or move out of the way of.

I disagree. There are ways to avoid round house kicks but if a person isn't quick enough to block or move away from a round house kick he can still get hit hard.

Front kicks are no doubt fast and hard to avoid but it can be done if you know what you are doing

[guy incognito]

Agreed I cant say being on the receiving end of one is high on my list of things to do!

[Tom Yum]

i never sparred any Best Muay Thai Boxers.... but i do believe that the structure of the skin, bones, blood of the black belted Karate / Tae Kwon Do guys is the same compare to an Advanced Muay Thai Fighter......
even kungfu body structure, we have all the same hard skin due to our intense training and body development..... but i insist that TECHNIQUE is the best superior among the rest, if you have plenty of techniques ..... priority that you will win the fight........

and muay thai has less technique......

strong legs of even a 3rd Dan Shorin Ryu Karate Black Belt is the same compare to an Expert Muay Thai's Hard Shin Legs..... due to our continuous training and we have the same skin body components.....

AGREE??????

You'll have to see for yourself. Shorin Ryu Karate is alot different than muay thai; most Okinawan fighters look like they have pretty good kicks, most are thrusting type kicks - front kick, side kick, back kick etc. Most thaiboxers use the teep (push kick), thai round kick and rarely a side kick. The only way to know the difference is to be on the receiving end of one of those kicks.

You can rationalize it however you like, but it sounds to me like you've never been on the receiving end of a full contact thai kick. From the way you talk, you don't understand the mechanics of muay thai and have never been on the receiving end of muay thai kicks, punches or clinching. Furthermore, you haven't sparred a muay thai fighter. How can you speak credibly about kung fu vs muay thai?

you NEED to sparr a decent amateur muay thai fighter and get a friend to take photos. This will answer the ultimate question. Bruce lee fought another traditional kung-fu fighter and realized his own limitations, hence he created JKD.

[sherwinc]

Bruce lee fought another traditional kung-fu fighter and realized his own limitations, hence he created JKD.

True, and im convinced with that....