ITF is the TRUE TKD!! who agrees with me

[Praetorian]

who argrees or disagrees with me here!

[Praetorian]

Itf..

Genaral choi thought of name TAE KWON DO

So he has every right to use that name. And keep that name!!

no other try hard tkd club shouldnt have the right to use that name.

they just use that name 4 money and survival of there club.

none of this crap, do how kwan, did dong kwan and WTF especially!!

ANY ITF people support me

[Praetorian]

clean debate

Lets have a good clean debate (and try to stay on topic)

Sorry if i sounded abit crazy b4.
because i where i am from. i c advertisments LIKE (WTF THE ORIGINAL TKD JOIN NOW) and many many more.........

but Deep down inside i do respect all other tkd clubs. which is 1 of the tenets of tkd

but i would BE interest in what other people say about there style of Tkd

(especially WTF)

and especially what there teachers have been telling them. Because i have heard i alot of stories

thank you

[ChunGi]

hello,

I am open for debate but unfortunatly i mostly support yoru arguments. ITF is the origanle style of TKD developed by Gen Choi. WTF is a tournament art, the kicked are redesigned to hit people faster with sacrifice of power, in order get pionts. theories such as "kicking to the head is slow" or "close range is the most dangerous position when fighting" have obveiously never used the art as a form of self defence. ITF is disciplinary. I have been hit with a bamboo stick countless number of times in the shins and forearms for being retarded and doing things such as, not kicking a person hard enough in contact sparring, or acidently kicking person becasue of a slip in my control. I used to loath this common happening, but now I bless my insructor for doing such things to me becasue my forearms and shins are more dense then most otehr fighters, which gives me an edge against fighters with styles like thai kickboxing and so on. I LOVE TKD

out,

[Spookey]

Our Dojang...

Dear All,

All though we are a small club...we are proud to preserve and promote the original teachings of the founder of TKD, Gen. Choi Hong Hi!

To all those members of the Chang Hon Family who are proud supporters of the original art...TAEKWON!

TAEKWON!
Spookey
Michael Bateman
Bateman Taekwon-Do Oh Do Kwan

[ChunGi]

looks like there isnt many people who think otherwise about this post. Or they just finally realized the inappropriatness of their thoughts.

[electrorok]

i dont support wtf or the others but general choi did at first teach tkd for self defence only. but changed his stance on the competition side of it when the traditional way was getting over run by schools wanting to compete. so through the yrs what he taught so many of his original blackbelts, which was tkd to be pure self defence. was no longer. so the original tkd system some what changed. In my mind.
I still respect all tkd schools. at the end of the day we are all promoting a korean art which links us all some how.

[Maxx]

True TKD

I don't really think you can suggest that one version of TKD is more valid or more "true" than another. Both systems (meaning ITF and WTF) have their respective strengths and weaknesses. I've seen both ITF fighters and WTF fighters in actual self defense situations. Sometimes they won and sometimes they lost.

I will say this. Yes, General Choi invented the name of Taekwon-Do and several Korean systems of martial arts decided to unify under that name. General Choi even developed a system that is wholly different from other Korean martial arts. Many of these other arts, however, had been in existance for quite some time when this occurred though.

Technically I guess you could argue that only the system that General Choi had developed should be called TKD, but in 1955 when those separate Korean systems unified I tend to think he was quite happy about that. Now, TKD is more of a generic term, like Karate, each system utilizing slightly different concepts, theories and techniques. At the end of the day I really don't think the name matters all that much if what the system teaches is valid.

[electrorok]

good point maxx

[Praetorian]

but...

Do u think general Choi would be happy with Taekwondo being a gernal term.

I dont think he is even happy with other oganiations suchs as WTF.

My Instructor has personally had a meeting with a General Choi with other Instuctors. When he toured Australia.

HE wasnt happy with all this bullshit from WTF

[Praetorian]

wtf sparing

Honestly do u think Wtf sparin is entertainin to watch for some1 like the average joe to watch.

When most people watch it there reaction to it.
Is...

this is SHIT!!!

[Si Williams]

I've been doing taekwondo for about 4 months now, i've been told its W.T.A but can anyone tell me the difference between WTA & ITA, cos i am some what confused, is one better than the other?

[MADDOG]

Hello,

ITF, is Gen. Choi Hong Hi union of the many Kwans that where presence before the unification of the name TKD. ITF is a fantastic art that stays true to it focus and has not bastardize it art for short term gain.

WTF, is a sport calling it’s self martial. It shows no respect to the efforts of Gen. Choi Hong Hi! If you are looking for a sport and a quick belt progression/ McDojo you will USUALLY/NOT ALWAYS find it here.

ATA, McDojo.

TANG SOO DO & the INDEPENDENT TKD KWONS, thank you for preserving – USALLY/NOT ALWAYS – TKD and keep the path straight for others to follow.

Just a perspective from a old TKD workhorse, who loves TKD more today than when he first started.

It does not matter id you are WTF, ITF, ATA, TSD or Independent – as TKD practione’rs we are obligated to maintain the integrity of this art so others can benefit as we had benefit from an instructor who cared!

Ed Barton
An Old American TKD MDK

[cdkwn]

Who careS!!!!!! If you enjoy doing what your doing, then JUST DO IT!!!! All those dead MA people are gone, bruce lee, choi, etc. Good lord, get with the times.

[Praetorian]

yeah i enjoy what im doing

But i just hate it how WTF people try to claim taekwondo as the better than the rest.

because THEY think Itf tournaments are not are good as WTF torunaments DUE TO itf BEING SEMI CONTACH. Because of its huge organisation they intend to say anything they want.



and also where im am from. the government only recognises wtf TAEKWONDO and as a sport within the AUSTRALIA GOVERNEMT (aust_institue_of_sport). In which they get more funding. and support from the goverment.

So THAT means itf is a private organisation.

So for all those people that do differnant taekwondo styles. we have to get a black belt IN WTF to be recognies by the goverment that bullshit. Or even compete for Australia!!!!!!

ITF has own tournaments, were have our own championships.
we have our own australia representatives.

What makes WTF SO SUPEROIR???