What TKD needs...

[kuk sool won]

Kicks are extremely useful, i think i could beat many professional boxers with just kicks. Train your legs and the snap in your legs have just as much speed as a punch, the fact that punches land quicker is purely because naturally arms are shorter than legs. Kicks are also incredibly more effective in terms of power, on average, the leg is 5 times stronger than the arm.

[seanyseanybean]

in theory i would agree. But it will always go back to the point that, "Most kickboxing champs, were boxers who learned a few kicks"

I think for kicks to be effective you would need a much bigger ring, so that you could keep retreating when a puncher trys to get in punching range.

Cant really see it happening though.

[tkd_person89]

Jubaji... you need to get a life.

lol.. the picture i thinking of right now

is a fatass, out of work 60 yr old geek who gets pleasure out of making fun of people on the internet

good luck with that. dumbass

[IPON]

"Most kickboxing champs, were boxers who learned a few kicks"

Actually it is the opposite. (US) Kickboxing developed from fullcontact karate. Infact most are not that good at boxing

[blitz]

Most Kickboxing CHAMPS. They could have been boxers before then took up kickboxing and won tournaments, winning a kickboxing tourny dosen't mean you strictly train in kickboxing only ;'O

[jubaji]

Jubaji... you need to get a life.

lol.. the picture i thinking of right now

is a fatass, out of work 60 yr old geek who gets pleasure out of making fun of people on the internet

good luck with that. dumbass

Thanks alot. Its so nice to know little children today are so polite!

[kuk sool won]

Thanks alot. Its so nice to know little children today are so polite!

It is 'a lot' not 'alot', there is not such word as alot. What are you? Illiterate?

[tkd_person89]

Yes, I do believe the stupid fucker is illiterate.

He really needs to get a life, that loser.

[JkD187]

Kicks are extremely useful, i think i could beat many professional boxers with just kicks. Train your legs and the snap in your legs have just as much speed as a punch, the fact that punches land quicker is purely because naturally arms are shorter than legs. Kicks are also incredibly more effective in terms of power, on average, the leg is 5 times stronger than the arm.

You cant beat any professional.

[tkd_person89]

Why can't he?

I'm sure he can't beat every single professional but if he's a good enough kicker, I'm sure he can take out some pros who only know how to punch.

[IPON]

Most Kickboxing CHAMPS. They could have been boxers before then took up kickboxing and won tournaments, winning a kickboxing tourny dosen't mean you strictly train in kickboxing only ;'O

Even most CHAMPS, kickboxing is not as lucrative as boxing. A pure boxer wants to stay in boxing for the money. Kickboxing that is offered in boxing gym are the most legit IMHO, but boxing is the the suppliment the focus is far more on kicking.

Could a kickboxing CHAMP have been a boxer previously I am sure but provide the name. That's not a challege as such because I don't following kickboxing just a point you may want to answer for yourself (and correct me if I am way off track). But keep in mind just practicing boxing does not make one a boxer..that takes ring time. I call myself a wrestler becuase I wrestled in HS and college. If I just went to the practice I cannot call myself a wrestler.

[seanyseanybean]

from what i have read or heard

Benny 'the jet' came from a boxing backround

as did Joe Lewis

Pat Smith was a pro boxer

I dunno though when i said the statement i was qouting some one else so i dont know how true it is, but it seems pretty plausable.

[JkD187]

Why can't he?

I'm sure he can't beat every single professional but if he's a good enough kicker, I'm sure he can take out some pros who only know how to punch.

A pro boxer will not geat beat by some kid on the net with just kicks...it will never happen.

[Xtschneider]

Jubaji, I have yet to see you actually type something with any meaning, all you do is bash TKD_Person and it is really annoying.

Now then, TKD in my opinion is a pretty useful art. Sure there are weaknesses, but then find a martial art with no weakness. I don't know about what school you went to Stevens, but medals in my opinion mean nothing. It may mean you went against sub par opponents, or that you are backing up what you've said. And with a stubborn opinion that you were a prodigy, well then that means you've learned no philosophy from martial arts, and you're a braggart.

As Kicks vs. Punches, there is a time and a place for each, the kicker will most likely lose to a puncher in an enclosed space, but with a little bit of room a kicker will flourish against a puncher. My school teaches both hand and foot techniques. I would say I know about as many hand/elbow techniques as I do foot/knee. Hence why its called Tae Kwon Do, Hand and foot.

Against other styles TKD is just as valid as any other martial art, I've seen a bashing craze because of olympic sparring, its just that...sparring, its not a real fight, its hitting a bunch of pads on a moving target while trying not to get hit on your pads. There are schools out there which teach self defence as well. If you get a well trained TKD'er you can see the difference from a McDojang Blackbelt sparrer.


Just my opinions on the matters at hand.

[tkd_person89]

JKD,

then what about a Pro Boxer vs Pro TKD fighter?