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  • #61
    And to you seany...

    Thank you for defending me but..

    "Mcdojang black belt sparrers"?

    What are you implying there?

    Sparring is essential for fighting skills and I don't know how Mcdojangs fit in with that.

    And also, people bash Olympics but a olympic tkd fighter woudl do well in a full contact traditional martial arts tournie gainst kungfu or karate guys.

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    • #62
      Sparring is essential, and technique is too, spar all you want but if you learn some bad habits (one example is keeping hands down) at a high belt level you will get trashed, such is my comment on McDojang Black belt sparrers, IE: Blackbelts who have bad habits from being taught badly.

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      • #63
        Even olympic guys would keep their hands up in a real fight. Just because Olympic guys use only kicks while in competition doesn't mean they do not know and practice hand strikes.

        Taekwondo = Way of the hand AND feet.

        Plus,

        A pro taekwondo guy vs a pro boxer... It all depends who is better but a competent pro taekwondo guy is more than capable of taking on a pro boxer who only knows hands strikes.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by kuk sool won
          It is 'a lot' not 'alot', there is not such word as alot. What are you? Illiterate?
          Thank you very much for pointing out the prescriptive grammatical error in my use of a descriptive collocution. I appreciate it.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Xtschneider
            Jubaji, I have yet to see you actually type something with any meaning, all you do is bash TKD_Person and it is really annoying.
            .


            Well, it sure is interesting to learn your view on the matter.

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            • #66
              If this thread was called "place snide, smug comments here" (of which I'm guilty) then whats going on now would be great.

              But it isn't, this thread was created for people to put forth their opinions on how they feel their TKD could be improved, so getting back on track:

              I think some sort of legal coverage for full-contact cross-style sparring qould be great. Not only for TKD but for MA's as a whole, I was talking to my teacher about some cross-style sparring and whether it could be organised where I practice. She replied that there were great legal implications involved, some black belts and other experienced pratitioners can take a "I'm responsible for me" policy where all parties involved cannot be subjected to any legal action no matter what the injury caused. Very, very few people will want to do this. So to encourage cross-style sparring (which is sodding brilliant) there should be some sort of umbrella insurance allowing anyone from any school with that insurance to spar against one another.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by tkd_person89
                Even olympic guys would keep their hands up in a real fight. Just because Olympic guys use only kicks while in competition doesn't mean they do not know and practice hand strikes.

                Taekwondo = Way of the hand AND feet.

                Plus,

                A pro taekwondo guy vs a pro boxer... It all depends who is better but a competent pro taekwondo guy is more than capable of taking on a pro boxer who only knows hands strikes.
                Yeah but if you don't practice those hand strikes in conjunction with you kicking abilities in a 'live' situation, most (if not at all) simply don't use their hands because they've grown used to not using them.

                I've sparred against a boxer and all I have to say on the sbject is that as long as the kicks keep coming at fairly constant rate they simply can't get within striking distance. Axe kicks work great at demolishing the guard and then whackin 'em right on top of the noggin, but you've gotta b quick. The fella I spar against, you give him an inch and he'll take a mile.

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                • #68
                  Basically ANY martial art that includes both punches and kicks IS a better self defense than Boxing. (I know im going to get attacked for that comment but think about it constructively.)

                  However it doesn't mean the fighters are better, in general boxing produces better fighters than TKD but thats only because of the absolute volume it has in terms of its coverage, advertising etc.

                  Recently K-1 have been putting world class boxers against world class kick and thai boxers, the kickboxers and thai boxers win most of the matches...

                  Now about me beating professonial boxers, i never mentioned anything like the height and weight did i

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by kuk sool won
                    Basically ANY martial art that includes both punches and kicks IS a better self defense than Boxing. (I know im going to get attacked for that comment but think about it constructively.)

                    However it doesn't mean the fighters are better, in general boxing produces better fighters than TKD but thats only because of the absolute volume it has in terms of its coverage, advertising etc.

                    Recently K-1 have been putting world class boxers against world class kick and thai boxers, the kickboxers and thai boxers win most of the matches...

                    Now about me beating professonial boxers, i never mentioned anything like the height and weight did i
                    You still wouldnr win even if they weighed 120 .

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                    • #70
                      I disagree.

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                      • #71
                        Wow you really are funny...

                        How can you judge me when you haven't seen me fight? Meh? MEH?

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                        • #72
                          And also I agree TKD's weakness is its in-fighting. But KSW is much more comprehensive than TKD in terms of close range, to the point that their weakness is not close range.

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                          • #73
                            for all we know this could be kuk sool won.

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                            and i reckon this KSW guy could beat most boxers

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                            • #74
                              Plese don't use him as an example. He isn't that good.

                              21-14 isn't somethign to be proud of relaly.

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                              • #75
                                His fighting style has little resemblance to KSW anyway

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