tkd clip

[GonzoStyles]

dont know if this clip has been posted before but I just thought that this could shush alot of the anti-TKD people who get off by saying " my Master's style could whoop your Master's " if you cant see the effectiveness of these techniques your blind................

and the same goes for any MA to be truthful

http://www.lemonzoo.com/funny_videos/711/cool_martial_arts_video.html

[tkd_person89]

The bashing will continue, though. What we really need is not clips but a successful TKD man in a fight tournmanent. Serkan Yilmaz is not going to cut it. Someone even better using TKD needs to come along.

[tkd_person89]

And hopefully with the new WTF rule changes, two things that are the main cause of distaste for TKD will die out: keeping hands down and no punching.

THe new rules incorporate punching meaning people will use them which means if you don't keep your hands up, you will be scored on.

[kuk sool won]

The 'bashing' is few and far between now, its posts like these that are just provoking TKD bashing again, all styles get bashed you know, you just shouldn't let it affect you.

[pstevens]

dont know if this clip has been posted before but I just thought that this could shush alot of the anti-TKD people who get off by saying " my Master's style could whoop your Master's " if you cant see the effectiveness of these techniques your blind................

Dude, wake up and smell the coffee... Most of those clips were demonstrations, choreagraphy with a few sports-oriented clips... I didn't see ANYTHING that would lend me to believe TKD can be used for self-defense or fighting.

Yeah, those kicks look good and flashy, but unless you're trying to kick a bird out of the sky, they're pretty much useless. I've been doing TKD since age 9 and I can pretty much all the fancy flying, spinning, double-twisting kicks.... Know what? I doesn't do a thing for me in the ring, cage or gym.

The things that do work for me are timing, footwork and distance.

[tkd_person89]

So is that all that matters in your life? What works in the Octagon? Are you a professional fighter? Do you honestly think that that is a legitimate reason to dismiss an art? If you do, you need to set some things straight.

Look mr. taekwondo prodigy (*scoff*) ... you're one of those arrogant, cocky people who think he has all the answers when it comes to martial arts. But hey, what do you know? I mean why does your opinion matter? Are you a famous fighter?

And you obviously aren't a tkd prodigy since you stated that you use flashy kicks all the time. Flashy kicks don't work in TKD sparring either, so clearly you have no idea what you are talking about, buddy.

When you beat any of those guys from that clip in a fight, post it up here so that we may see. In fact, beat ANY decent TKD guy and post it up here. You are all talk just like your prodigy claims.

[pstevens]

tkd guy,

Don't forget to breathe... You will not see those TKD guys in any NHB competition because they know they can't win. But you will see TKD people who cross train in MMA... In fact, I know of many - some aren't bad, some are lousy, just like anyone in MMA.

And please refrain from misqouting me. I said I've learned all those flashy TKD kicks... I DID NOT say I was using them all the time. Also, I said I was a prodigy in "my neck of the woods" not an international TKD superstar.

I realize you have a reading comprehension problem so I will tell you straight out. Certain aspects of TKD works, but most of it is useless on the streets or in the ring... Live with it.

Before you go on ranting about, "...you were just a teenager doing TKD, blah, blah, blah..." Yes, I was a teenager... But that doesn't mean I suddently stopped understanding or training. I just changed the way I trained and moved on to other things that were more effective for what I do. Boxing is the most effective striking system regarding hands, MT for the clinch, knees and elbows, BJJ for the ground, etc....

To make a long post short... If you truly believe your TKD is self-gratifying, then you don't need anyone's approval, including mine...

Peace out.

[Acitic]

dont know if this clip has been posted before but I just thought that this could shush alot of the anti-TKD people who get off by saying " my Master's style could whoop your Master's " if you cant see the effectiveness of these techniques your blind................

and the same goes for any MA to be truthful

http://www.lemonzoo.com/funny_videos...rts_video.html

So wait, you are saying, by watching this.... i am suppose to not bash tkd. Frick I do tkd and i want to bash it because of watching that. Personally i believe kicks to the head is not a practical way to defend, i know this because i had it proved to me. I posted the same clip... the sparring impressive! Board Breaking very good, lots of power! But the self - defense.... NO FRICKEN WAY! it is just choreographed self-defense.

In my Personal experience doing high kicks to the head while no being warm equal damage to groin muscles resulting in Active Release Therapy and having to take 2 months off while you heal. Sure if someone attacks you on the street you and run away from them till you are warmed up, but even then will your enviroment contrict you? Will your clothes constrict you?

Now a days people carry weapons. That is a fact! Not Mentioning names, but a very close martial artist friend of mine carries enough for 5 people. In my car, because i teach weapons I probally have enough for anyone that views the KRN Martial Arts Section of this forum. High kicks to the head to not work with weapons, and if you don't believe me give your friend a marker and wear an old pair of white pants. Or go find a nice arnis school and ask them to demonstrate it to you.

[Acitic]

And you obviously aren't a tkd prodigy

Tkd_person, you obviously are not either. You have provent hat by your lack of knowledge of your own martial art, and others. So maybe it is time you sit back and learn instead of opening your mouth. Honestly, forgive the rudeness but you have just about learned nothing on the forum yet, because you ask all the same questions, and then ignore the answers because you don't want to hear what people say.

When i first joined this forum, i thought everybody bashed TKD, i tryed to stand up and say no it is this amazing martial art. Ovioulsy no one listened to me, so i went out there and i tryed other martial arts. I came back to the forum about a month ago with a greater understanding of what was out there.... maybe it is time you go out there and figure it out for yourself.

[GonzoStyles]

so Acitic, you practice TKD and bash it at the same time? you sound confused! in the Vietnam war the Viet cong actually issued an order to avoid direct contact with the R.O.K. forces, they specifically mentioned their fearsome hand to hand combat skills! (see my post on the R.O.K. Tiger division in this section of the forums) so you still think that TKD self-defense is BS? I think that quite a few R.O.K. and American vets who served in Korea would disagree.

[tkd_person89]

Yeah really... you anti-TKD guys... do you think your tough guys? huh? lol... keep dreaming... you always mention the octagon but why does that matter? are you ever going to go in it and show us how good you are by beating The Iceman? i dont think so. so shut it unless you have a valid point or for that matter, EVIDENCe. evidence that TKD sucks is what you are not providing right now.

you say TKD isn't successful in UFC... so are you suggesting that all of the standup styles besides MT and Boxing suck? b/c those two are the big time UFC styles. you don't see capoeria or kung fu much in UFC. you suggesting they are ineffective too?

[Acitic]

so Acitic, you practice TKD and bash it at the same time? you sound confused! in the Vietnam war the Viet cong actually issued an order to avoid direct contact with the R.O.K. forces, they specifically mentioned their fearsome hand to hand combat skills! (see my post on the R.O.K. Tiger division in this section of the forums) so you still think that TKD self-defense is BS? I think that quite a few R.O.K. and American vets who served in Korea would disagree.

Yo don't even feed me crap about how it was used in the vietnam war! My instructor in tkd was in a paratrooper division and he taught the self-defense.
At no time has he ever taught us a drop kick to the head for self-defense. Hand to Hand combat.... funny in that video they didn't use there hands for self-defense at all......

I love quoting myself......

So wait, you are saying, by watching this.... i am suppose to not bash tkd. Frick I do tkd and i want to bash it KEY TERM ---->because of watching that.

now where in that did i say i go around bashing tkd. Exactly i said watching that! that was an extremely biast view on self-defense. My goodness.... if you are going to respond to what i say... read my post more than once.

[tkd_person89]

you still haven't answered MY questions... could it be perhaps that you cannot?

[Acitic]

Yeah really... you anti-TKD guys... do you think your tough guys? huh? lol... keep dreaming... you always mention the octagon but why does that matter? are you ever going to go in it and show us how good you are by beating The Iceman? i dont think so. so shut it unless you have a valid point or for that matter, EVIDENCe. evidence that TKD sucks is what you are not providing right now.

you say TKD isn't successful in UFC... so are you suggesting that all of the standup styles besides MT and Boxing suck? b/c those two are the big time UFC styles. you don't see capoeria or kung fu much in UFC. you suggesting they are ineffective too?

Credentials:
Pro TKD
never mentioned the octagon
All evidence i have said came from the video

Personal Thoughts

you say TKD isn't successful in UFC

Why does that matter, you are training to be in the UFC? I am not training to been in the UFC, that is why i pratice groin kicks, eye jabs, and head butts.

so are you suggesting that all of the standup styles besides MT and Boxing suck? b/c those two are the big time UFC styles. you don't see capoeria or kung fu much in UFC. you suggesting they are ineffective too?

no i am not suggesting that. But UFC is not Self-defense. And unless you are training for UFC don't worry about people compairing your Art to octagon effectivness. I believe if acted in such a manner as they do in the UFC on the street and you were attacked that would be called assault, and you may win you fight but you are in trouble with the police because all the "fans" watching saw you just curb stomp the guy.

[tkd_person89]

so what are you saying? Taekwondo is useless for SD and fighting?