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  • Boycott Tae Kwon Do, I Hate WTF TKD!!!

    I was once a strong advocator of TKD, but NO MORE!! I’m through with McDojos that care more about your wallet than your personal well-being. The World Tae Kwon Do Federation, Kukkiwon and United States Tae Kwon Do Union are a BIG, FAT JOKE!!!

    HERE’S MY STORY:

    Since I was seven, I have been training in the martial arts. I was trained at home until age 10, but my father felt that my isolated training wasn’t healthy so he enrolled me in karate. I studied karate and kickboxing for nearly two years then switched to a TKD gym because, while visiting my karate gym, the TKD Master saw that I had more potential for growth at his dojan.

    I had to work hard all summer for cash, but I eventually got into the TKD gym. After 2 years, I became the star pupil and won numerous tournaments, national championships and titles. At age 15, I was even invited to train at the Olympic Complex in Colorado Springs. Needless to say, by this time I had invested a lot of time and money into TKD. The WTF was very happy that I was promoting them through exhibitions and local charities. Afterall, they were getting exposure and enrollment.

    In high school I got into a lot of fights. I realized that although I never got beaten up, my victories were narrow and someone could easily crush me with the right techniques. Fortunately, I met two martial artists through my girlfriend who became my training partners and very best friends. We trained in street fighting scenarios, ground fighting and all out sparring. We later met a guy practicing at the park who had 15 years of combined boxing and kickboxing experience.

    At this time, my relationship with my TKD Master was deteriating... I taught classes Friday nights and Saturday afternoons and began teaching my own brand of street TKD. My Master reprimanded me by excluding me from teaching.

    It was time for my 1st Dan Black Belt testing and I passed with flying colors. I never received my Black Belt however because my Master had issues with my teaching methods. That Fall, I left for college and continued training and teaching at the University. When I returned home for the semester, my locker at the TKD gym had been cleaned out and I learned I was no longer welcomed. I was shocked! I had expensive equipment, uniform and momentos in my locker. I confronted my Master who gave me the “silent treatment” and brush off. I never went back and now the gym’s closed.

    I did however complain to the WTF Federation and Kukkiwon. Basically they gave me the runaround and then told me to get lost. I also contacted various high council members in the TKD circle, none of whom bothered to investigate or show sympathy. I also wrote to TKD Magazine, but they don’t want to hear negative aspects of their organization.

    So you see, the Tae Kwon Do enterprise only cares when you’re making money for them, but when you really want to improve yourself and bring the art to a new level, they ignore you. It’s been nearly 10 years and I have never received the recognition I worked so hard to achieve. The whole idea of belts don’t fascinate me anymore, it’s the idea that I invested so much only be be denied an award... The good thing is that I learned something about myself and REAL fighting.

  • #2
    It's too bad you had to learn the hard way. I left WTF over 16 years ago. The do not have control over local instructors as they really are not the cohesive of a group. This also means that quality of instruction varies greatly between schools.


    I do not think that your issues are with TKD but with WTF. You might wish to look around for some of the other quality TKD associations around the US.

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    • #3
      You got it man!

      I will NEVER do Taekwondo again!

      Power to the people!

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      • #4
        OMGosh!!! IM SO HAPPY!!

        YES! AWSOME!! People are waking up and leaving that crap. This makes my day so much brighter.

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        • #5
          WTF is not ALL of tkd..

          You have to remember that WTF taekwondo (kukkiwon) is not the same as ALL taekwondo.. you have big differences between different federations and different nations on how things are done....

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          • #6
            Honestly, I could care less about TKD, but I gotta agree with Cain. I know some decent people that practice TKD, they would never do what your instructor did to you. I'm staying neutral about this but I just wanted to remind you that just because there is a few morons in an organization doesn't mean that everybody else is like them.

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            • #7
              mhm

              I trained ITF.. which is less sports-orientated than WTF, but case still is: tkd _do_ have nice techniques, the problem is the enviroment where the training takes place.. people isn't used to pain.. doesen't want to get hurt! and the realism is taking a beating (and yes, I SUCK at written english:P) anyway, if you are lucky and find a good teacher and a good school, that utilizes the nice techniques in a realistic way and let you train with full stress and realism.. BE HAPPY! they are seldom, but they exist..

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              • #8
                But has anyone here ever tried training in Korea? I heard that they are crazy people up there with their TKD???

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                • #9
                  I agree with Cain. There are some salvagable techniques in TKD. It's cool that you were able to make a realistic TKD cirriculum. It just sucks that politics gave you a bad experience. Can you share with us some examples of your self defense based TKD? In another thread, we talked about the use of the TKD side kick.

                  I have also heard that TKD training in Korea is intense, but never saw it first hand. Anyone else?

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                  • #10
                    TKD in south america is intense. In the STF the guy who won my ring at the world championships broke his jaw in the first round and still won the match and fought 4 more.

                    The STF guy two rings away knocked out all of his opponents. This is in light Contact point sparring.


                    I've been hit by them and they are crazy.

                    The Koreans I have worked out with have been very fast. I had a student that had trained in korea with the national team before moving to the US. Crazy training, but with the WTF program it is extremely sport oriented and he did not like the physical abuse of sparring at my school.

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                    • #11
                      light

                      i have broken 3 ribs, fracutred my neck, gotten 2 concussions, broken a wrist and an ancle in the "light contact" sparring so it isn't very light really..

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                      • #12
                        you go boye

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                        • #13
                          srry didn't read you whole thread

                          just because you didn't get your belt doesn't mean your a bad fighter. in my eyes you did the right thing.you don't need a belt to tell you you are good. you only need to know yourself.

                          don't get mad get even.

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                          • #14
                            try winning from koreans in korea with korean referees/judges

                            I find it strange that WTF which is the TKD style/org that got OG recognition doesn't take you serious

                            I have found that a lot of asian orgs ask rediculous high amounts of money just to be a member or to get a black belt exam and on top of that they almost demand anybody practicing the sport to be a member

                            the way your teacher has treated you shows that he didn't learn anything from his martial arts/sports training
                            by cleaning out your closet without informing you and not returing your properties they were in violation of he law, you should have gone to the police

                            As far as your black belt goes, if your teacher was allowed to issue that, I'm not shure the WTF would have recognized it
                            If you passed the exam but didn't get a diplom, my question is did you pay extra for it, and was that because of the WTF?
                            If so did the WTF at least send you anything stating this?

                            If there is no need to do so within the WTF than everybody can issue BB diploms, if you really want a diplom, just make one, it's just a piece of paper(mine are gathering dust on top of a cupboard

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                            • #15
                              Do all your "sparring" competitions turn out like this? Probably the reason My mate who is high ranking TKD can only bloody fight "full contact".

                              He always competes in tournaments etc and he says that knockouts occur all the time, with people just resulti9ng in punching and brawling, espec in teh heavyweight categories

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