Boycott Tae Kwon Do, I Hate WTF TKD!!!

[koto_ryu]

hey popit and lockit, put your glasses on and read what i wrote. vale tudo is still competing?? vale tudo means anything goes but it is a competition, just with minimal rules. i cant remember the last time someone tried to start a fight with me and we went to a ring and put on training short and went at it. Real life situations bro. but thanks anyway man, ill try to explain to my next attacker while hes not trying to stab me that we should go to a gym and get changed and fight in a ring. coz thats real fighting. hmm i wonder if he will agree?

Vale Tudo's more realistic than TKD in my opinion. It has grappling and full contact striking and the like. And I never did like the "self defense" term, it always makes me feel like you have to wait until the guy actually attacks you. Sounds too politically correct

[electrorok]

koto ryu, it all depends on what type tkd u study. the new tkd with comps and protective gear isnt realistic at all in my view and i agree with u.there.but there is still the o.g. tkds out there where they teach takedowns, locks, choke etc. remember it was kill or be killed back in the day when most martial arts were born

[PopItandLockIt]

Your Glasses

Maybe you need to put your glasses on mate i wasnt commenting about comps i was commenting on what you wrote here:

"in real life situations i will do what eva it takes for me to survive. if it means ripping an eye out or kicking square in the goulies ill do it. "

not sure if that is an official TKD move?

[Tom Yum]

Remember all martial arts came from people trying to survive in everyday living , not winning trophies. in real life situations i will do what eva it takes for me to survive. if it means ripping an eye out or kicking square in the goulies ill do it.

The point people bring up is that TKD is watered down to such a low level that the name Mc Dojang comes up after the ever so popular fast food franchise. There's some truth to this.

Some people go 2x per week, pay $5,000 and just under 2 years at age 13, they are a black belt. This isn't the case with all TKD schools, but the trend is happening because its becoming more about business and less about quality martial arts.

[electrorok]

when did tkd get official rules?? stick with your glasses bro. u just wrote u were comenting on what i wrote "real life situations" then why bring up vale tudo??? next time they have a vale tudo in a night club or a bar tell me so i can go watch. and also tell me when they have a vale tudo match where there 2 guys onto 1. have u seen a gracie fight without throwing a couple of strikes? but to u thats not cosha coz they r not official bjj moves.
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[PopItandLockIt]

well said

Well said koto ryu this is exactly the point i was trying to make, i think elctro is scared of seeing the truth about TKD being a redundant martial art. No points for guessing which discipline you follow. Ill pit my BJJ training against your TKD any day

[electrorok]

hey man i love bjj. ill roll when eva u want. pop it and lock it , u crack me up.
Isnt it wierd that a bjj student is reading the korean ma forum.
dont be a player hater bro.

[Jeremy Lobdell]

Different art.

i have broken 3 ribs, fracutred my neck, gotten 2 concussions, broken a wrist and an ancle in the "light contact" sparring so it isn't very light really..

Maybe something that focuses more on defense would be in order.

[electrorok]

haha, maybe he should think about getting out of the way,instead of just taking the hits. theres no shame in side stepping. good advise jeremy

[koto_ryu]

koto ryu, it all depends on what type tkd u study. the new tkd with comps and protective gear isnt realistic at all in my view and i agree with u.there.but there is still the o.g. tkds out there where they teach takedowns, locks, choke etc. remember it was kill or be killed back in the day when most martial arts were born

TKD never had much of that, even the ROK Marines know that. That's why they supplement and take Hapkido so they will be able to grapple and the like. That's what you're thinking of, not TKD.

[electrorok]

hey man, our master instructor is chong chul rhee.he was one of chois first eva black belts and he was the master instructor for the 'demon hunters '( korean marines ) who got there name from the president of the united states for being the most feared marines and special forces. Hes been 100% tkd all his life. I dont say i do tkd and a bit of hapkido and a bit of knife defence etc. i say i do rheetkd and thats it. what eva i learn in rhee to me is tkd. Its not just kicking and punching man.

[electrorok]

TKD never had much of that, even the ROK Marines know that. That's why they supplement and take Hapkido so they will be able to grapple and the like. That's what you're thinking of, not TKD.

hey man, our master instructor is chong chul rhee.he was one of chois first eva black belts and he was the master instructor for the 'demon hunters '( korean marines ) who got there name from the president of the united states for being the most feared marines and special forces. Hes been 100% tkd all his life. I dont say i do tkd and a bit of hapkido and a bit of knife defence etc. i say i do rheetkd and thats it. what eva i learn in rhee to me is tkd. Its not just kicking and punching man.

[TKDTyger]

Funny

As I read through this thread I seemed to have losted the main subject... But anyways, MT and TKD can not be measured against eachother as in "which is better." Nascar and F1 are both race cars, but Nascar is held to specific rules and F1 has less rules.

What most of these people on this post are saying is that TKD is a crappy MA. However I am almost positive they are commenting on the sport TKD rather than the self defense. I know my DoJong and 20 others here in Va teach both Olympic Sparring and Self Defense. Each is done at seperate times and alternate days. One week Mon, Wed, Fri is sparring where Tues and Wed are SD and vice versa.

TKD is the only martial art I have ever studied, but the knowlege learned from Olympic Sparring done me very well. Speed, conditioning, timing, real time fighting, (not sissy point and reset), and reaction makes me feel that I have an upper hand in almost every situation.

MT is more of a go all out and see who is the first to fall fighting style. I watched many Tai fights in Tailand when I was in the Navy and it seemed as much as a brawl as streetfighting.

People do WTF for the sport and not for the self defense. Yes, my parents and uncles and aunts all laugh when they see us train and they all talk about how hard training in Korea was, but remember this is the U.S. and we Americans are sue happy where that is an almost nonexistant thing I all other forgien countries.

And now to address the topic of this thread, I myself would have barred you from teaching "your style" in MY Dojang. Would you want and employee go above your head and change tradition because "he feels he knows a better way," I truely think not. I do not agree with him chucking your stuff though, that was just wrong.

[conach]

Tom Yum wrote:
Does anyone know of any TKD based fighters in K1?

Not that I heard of. They either trained Kyokushin Karate (brazilian Francisco Filho, swiss Andy Hug), Muay Thai (Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost) or Kickboxing. Kickboxing, while excellent with punches, lacks the kicking power of MT and Kyokushin (specially low kicks, knees and kicking to the head with shins), IMHO.

[kosmo yagkoto]

But has anyone here ever tried training in Korea? I heard that they are crazy people up there with their TKD???

The local college here is having a "Korean Explosion", so I can ask any of them if they are crazy with their TKD.