The Tae Kwon Do Thread... Your thoughts.

[fullcircle]

So because I can throw TKD kicks, I have weak shins? Or I can't throw a MT roundhouse? Tom, I agree with most of your post, but the hips are used in more kicks than the crescent.

[Tom Yum]

The TKD front, roundhouse and hook kicks from what I remember are snap kicks that generate power in a whip like manner. They are meant to be fast, hard and snappy; are generally thrown from the lead leg and are meant to cause the most damage with minimal commitment - like a boxing jab, by using a small contact area with maximum speed.

But the TKD sidekick is more like a jab (lead leg) and snaps too, but also gets thrust from the gluteal muscles. Which makes it a formidable kick in all stand up styles; Cung Le (san shou) can knock guys out with it. An effective TKD stylist will use his side kick not only as a solid kick, but to keep the fight in kicking distance or to start a deceptive combo. Turning kicks use the hips a little, but not to clear the body but rather to generate a little extra force to release a side or back kick

The kicks in TKD that use hip rotation use them in a slightly different manner. The spinning wheel kick -used alot in HKD but the TKD variation is a spinning hook kick, require the hips to clear the body to generate immense power (like MT).

The problem is that spinning kicks can only be used sparringly, but when they do land, they smash (like MT kicks).

I hold a black-brown belt in HKD, but only practice a few of its kicks on a regular basis, because being in a side-forward stance isn't advantageous against boxing or thai style kicking.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by fullcircle
So because I can throw TKD kicks, I have weak shins? Or I can't throw a MT roundhouse? Tom, I agree with most of your post, but the hips are used in more kicks than the crescent.

If your shins arent conditioned and i guess your idea of conditioned is likely to be different to mine you will find it hard going.

[rico]

Ive bee into TKD for a while now. While it does have its merits, I have to say that they do not teach much in actual combat techniques. I would never kick to the head or do any jumping kicks. TKD does teach the roundhouse kick which is very effective, but most places teach you to chamber too much which can leads your kicks to being read. Also, TKD training does not emphasize enough about hitting to the face or kicking to the legs. Some of its techniques just cannot be implemented in the street

[ewod]

tkd is one martial art I would never take up...its so overrated...

[Szczepankiewicz]

its so overrated...

Oh I know.... tell me all about it, girlfriend...

[ewod]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz


Oh I know.... tell me all about it, girlfriend...

who you calling a girl you girl?

[mr. bond]

Originally posted by ewod
tkd is one martial art I would never take up...its so overrated...

overrated? i'd say it was underrated. everyone automatically assumes that it's absolutely useless, but it has some merit, at least.

[ewod]

Originally posted by mr. bond


overrated? i'd say it was underrated. everyone automatically assumes that it's absolutely useless, but it has some merit, at least.

tkd is a sport...I known people that have taken it and they have their black belt in it and they still tell me that tkd did nothing for them fighting wise and its really helpless when youre confronted by a guy who wants to beat you up...

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by rico
Ive bee into TKD for a while now. While it does have its merits, I have to say that they do not teach much in actual combat techniques. I would never kick to the head or do any jumping kicks. TKD does teach the roundhouse kick which is very effective, but most places teach you to chamber too much which can leads your kicks to being read. Also, TKD training does not emphasize enough about hitting to the face or kicking to the legs. Some of its techniques just cannot be implemented in the street

Go find you a good MT school!!!!!!

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by mr. bond


overrated? i'd say it was underrated. everyone automatically assumes that it's absolutely useless, but it has some merit, at least.

I second that man........


The useless part I mean!!!!!!!!


LOL sucka......

[gurojay]

as a tkd guy who moved in the muay thai jkd/kali arena i can say what people have known all along it men that make styles effecient not syles that make great fighters also the law of receprication is at work .ie take a full time tkd professional pit him against a twice a week muay thai fighterand i know who id bet on

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by gurojay
as a tkd guy who moved in the muay thai jkd/kali arena i can say what people have known all along it men that make styles effecient not syles that make great fighters also the law of receprication is at work .ie take a full time tkd professional pit him against a twice a week muay thai fighterand i know who id bet on

blah, blah, blah

[mr. bond]

Originally posted by ewod


tkd is a sport...I known people that have taken it and they have their black belt in it and they still tell me that tkd did nothing for them fighting wise and its really helpless when youre confronted by a guy who wants to beat you up...

then they wasted all of their training time, whereas TKD itself only forces you to waste part of your training time.

TKD has lots of stuff that is all for the sport and showiness, and inevitably you'll have to practice that in a TKD dojang. but all the core elements are there, and if you don't take anything away from TKD, you're probably not looking hard enough for what's real. meh. TKD's a solid base art, but there's a lot of flaws that will drive a lot of people away from it as they become more experienced. including me.

[ewod]

Originally posted by mr. bond


then they wasted all of their training time, whereas TKD itself only forces you to waste part of your training time.

TKD has lots of stuff that is all for the sport and showiness, and inevitably you'll have to practice that in a TKD dojang. but all the core elements are there, and if you don't take anything away from TKD, you're probably not looking hard enough for what's real. meh. TKD's a solid base art, but there's a lot of flaws that will drive a lot of people away from it as they become more experienced. including me.

if you want a korean art to take up, take up tang soo doo or better yet hapkido...tkd is so pathetic and its more of a sport than a martial art...tkd is as basic as you can get and it doesnt really help you out all that much in potentially dangerous situations on the streets...it does depend on the person tho I guess... ask any one what was the first martial art they ever took up and theyll most likely say tkd...