Strikers VS Grapplers

[Thai Bri]

I believe it is possible to learn from videos. But you need a wealth of experience in various arts to draw on, AND you need to practice what you have seen. To merely have a ten minute look AND THEN apply these takedowns and holds is just pure bullshit.

Oriental Kid. I apply my martial arts just fine thanks. But I paid the price on the mat, in blood and sweat. Just like everyone else in the world. Apart form the bullshitters of course.

BJJ takedowns are simple, when compaed to many Judo throws. And, of course, it is very possible for an untutored rowdy to take another untutored rowdy down. But then apply legs locks and arm bars? You are full of shit.

You are to BJJ what sherwinc is to Wing Chun - an ill educated idiot who knows nothing and undermines the art he attempts to promote.

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[oriental_kid]

Thai bri you are one rude person. It seems if anyone makes a statement you dont agree with, you just start insulting. All I can say is that you must be a slow learner.......Now tell me............ how hard is it to apply and arm bar and wrap your legs around someone's waist ????????????

[gregimotis]

how hard is it to apply and arm bar and wrap your legs around someone's waist

Applying an armbar is easy.

Setting up the situation where you can apply the armbar is somewhat harder.

Setting up that situation against someone who is struggling is harder than that.

Doing all of the above against someone who has any grappling skill is pretty damn difficult.




Wrapping your legs around someone is easy.

Sweeping/reversing or finishing from the gaurd is somewhat harder.

Awww... if you don't get the point yet, you never will.

[oriental_kid]

I get the what your saying, but what I was trying to say is a MA who just trains in striking eg WC and any other striking art will lose to a grappler. All the grappler has to do is cover his head, fake kick to the knee and then the lunge........your in. Your game their playing.

Applying an armbar is easy.

Setting up the situation where you can apply the armbar is somewhat harder.

Setting up that situation against someone who is struggling is harder than that.

Doing all of the above against someone who has any grappling skill is pretty damn difficult.




Wrapping your legs around someone is easy.

Sweeping/reversing or finishing from the gaurd is somewhat harder.

Awww... if you don't get the point yet, you never will.

[IPON]

how hard is it to apply and arm bar and wrap your legs around someone's waist ????????????

Well it is more difficult than throwing a kick or a punch. So I guess after 10 minute video of boxing for fun you should compete in the golden gloves

All the grappler has to do is cover his head, fake kick to the knee and then the lunge........your in. Your game their playing.

what the hell set-ups are you watching. Firstly, YOU my friend are not a grappler and if this is you infantile view of grappling you have more to learn than I thought and I already thought you were 10years behind. As I explained that you lucked out with your friend, who IMHO has questionable skill regardless of teh time spent in WC. Pulling your "bum rush" with someone else you could get really hurt. How you ask....well maybe someone else cares enough to explain. My 2 cents take it for what it worth

[oriental_kid]

Example. In UFC.........how often do you see a striker vs a grappler. Rarely if not none.
If the dude was a striker he would have to change tactics and try to grappler once the grappler had him. From their onwards the grappler aint gonna let him go. Do you get what I'm trying to say ? off course I'm not a grappler I've barely learnt but a skilled striker vs a skilled grappler of the same level, the grappler will dominate once he's made his move.

[sherwinc]

Example. In UFC.........how often do you see a striker vs a grappler. Rarely if not none.
If the dude was a striker he would have to change tactics and try to grappler once the grappler had him. From their onwards the grappler aint gonna let him go. Do you get what I'm trying to say ? off course I'm not a grappler I've barely learnt but a skilled striker vs a skilled grappler of the same level, the grappler will dominate once he's made his move.

the strikers that we see in UFC is full of bullshit..... they doesnt know how to followup rapidly, they doesnt know how to bulldoze their opponent with rapid hand attacks....

Note:
in Scientific rapid hand attacks of KungFu, in three hand strikes... you can intercept 100% its 1st hand attack..... and you can intercept 50% its second hand attack.... but, the third hand attack - it should hit the target and cannot intercept (WALKING HAND TECHNIQUES OF CHI DIAN BUN)

since "What you see is not" (ILLUSION TECHNIQUES OF CHI DIAN BUN) just like what you see in shows when the Magician performs his visual tricks: it all relies in the speed of the hands, since the hands is faster than eyes, yet eyes is faster than feet......

[Tap4Me]

A grappler will not always defeat a striker. Saying a grappler will dominate once he has made is mood can go vice versa, let a striker nail you with a good punch or kick to the head. There was a UFC fight along time ago, boxer vs. BJJ, the BJJ guy went in, the boxer nailed him in the face with a punch, fight over, he split the BJJ face wide open.

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[sherwinc]

SherwinC, who are you... reeaally?

I am a Third Generation KokSut under my kungfu instructor in the kungfu art of Chi Dian Bun Kok Sut KungFu, we are only 15 private students and i am a second senior student out of 15.....

my instructor is the 2nd generation under Ang Li Sing (the Chi Dian Bun KungFu instructor of the school Phil E-NEE in Manila) if i accept students of mine, then they will become the 4th generations....

just click my View Profile to know me

[sherwinc]

a good kungfu striker doesnt need to strike or touch his enemy to paralize him anyway

You are extremely wrong!!!!!

this is only an expression.....

Yes, this is true in movies only..... but it reality.... there is a contact.....

[[MT]Mike]

why does anyone reply to these threads? why oh why would anyone get sucked in to the age old my art is better than your art debate? infact why am I?

[aseepish]

I don`t even know why I`m reading this thread! Yet I cant. Look. Away.

[gracilva]

the strikers that we see in UFC is full of bullshit..... they doesnt know how to followup rapidly, they doesnt know how to bulldoze their opponent with rapid hand attacks..

Would you like to repeat that to Vitor Belfort

Oh.....oriental kid, try a half assed shoot and take down on an expirienced
striker and he will either uppercut you into tommorow or knee your teeth
down your throat.