Consensus on Streetfighting...

[pstevens]

Get it through your thick skulls... Street fights don't happen too often, but assualts do... A street fight generally refers an ego match. Someone getting jumped in a back alley is an assault, not a street fight.

BTW, jubaji, how's your mom doing you bastard child... Nice to see you're still stalking me... I'm not your father, I hope you know that.

[nwtogame]

Um okay P whatever you say. So streetfights never turn into assault charges huh? I tihnk your referring to back alley muggings and things of that nature. Whatver your slang is depending on where you from they both lead to the same thing. A street hand to hand fighting with someone you don't know and no judges or rules.

[wardancer]

First off how do you get yourself in a situation to get someone mad enough and you in the position to have a punch thrown at you with your family around?
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Use the pound and ground philosophy.
Keep punching if this is what you feel confident with, like there is no tomorow, do not ask questions keep pounding away.
MArtists do not like to look for fight for practice.
But if it happens and your family is around, you have to protect them and he strike you first.
Well so be it, keep pounding because you do not know what he has on his mind and you gotta to protect your family.
But in the case, you get somebody mad enough he wants to punch you, you might want ask yourselve if you are the guilty one for starting the fight?

[nwtogame]

That was kinda the point I was trying to make to begin with. I'd have to venture and say (fishing for a shot in the dark) but 9 -10 if your fighting and YOUR family is present you coulda doen something to prevent it. Or that or your getting mugged for money or something.

[jubaji]

Get it through your thick skulls... .

It must be hard for you to be so brilliant and yet so unappreciated!

[5 seals]

I live in chicago in Inglewood street fights are a regular thing in my hood .
Out of all the fights I've seen the only way people win in street fights is if the person there fighting ain't exspecting it in particular attacks from behind where the attacker knocks the sh!t out of there victim from behind and doesn't give them a chance to turn around and if they fall they stomp them into oblivion.

[Tom Yum]

I live in chicago in Inglewood street fights are a regular thing in my hood .
Out of all the fights I've seen the only way people win in street fights is if the person there fighting ain't exspecting it in particular attacks from behind where the attacker knocks the sh!t out of there victim from behind and doesn't give them a chance to turn around and if they fall they stomp them into oblivion.

I live in the vicinity of a hood, where some empty handed fights break out. Its usually the result of an escalation; some guy is drunk, pissed off or high and tries to take it out on someone else. Starts with a confrontation and escalates into a fight - shirts come off and the boys start swingin'.

The other 'fight's are really robbery, where some punk @ss stalks the weakest looking person and swoops in for their wallet - It's usually a tourist looking person or someone your grandparent's age.

You rarely see one thug try to rob another one.....for obvious reasons.

[5 seals]

I live in the vicinity of a hood, where some empty handed fights break out. Its usually the result of an escalation; some guy is drunk, pissed off or high and tries to take it out on someone else. Starts with a confrontation and escalates into a fight - shirts come off and the boys start swingin'.

The other 'fight's are really robbery, where some punk @ss stalks the weakest looking person and swoops in for their wallet - It's usually a tourist looking person or someone your grandparent's age.

You rarely see one thug try to rob another one.....for obvious reasons.

Same here the only difference is 1 on 1 fights are rare usually its more like 9 on 1.

[Ahoym8e]

That was kinda the point I was trying to make to begin with. I'd have to venture and say (fishing for a shot in the dark) but 9 -10 if your fighting and YOUR family is present you coulda doen something to prevent it. Or that or your getting mugged for money or something.

Ok, ok... I'll tap. Fighting in the presence of my family is pretty darn unlikely. I guess I was thinking more of getting assaulted/mugged with my family along, but that wouldn't likely take the form of some idiot throwing a "punk-ass haymaker" or whatever we were calling it. Muggings would usually involve some jerk with a gun or a knife or 6 buddies or something.

[IPON]

Get it through your thick skulls... Street fights don't happen too often, but assualts do... A street fight generally refers an ego match. Someone getting jumped in a back alley is an assault, not a street fight.

I am usually with you on your posts ...... but you are WAAAAAAAAY off on this one. Jubaji is definately correct you live in a protected world if you don't think street fights happen often.

assault definition – threat or use of force on another that reasonably makes that person fear bodily harm.

If I touched on the shoulder it be assault almost anything is assault in a lawyers hands. Now making a distinction between fighting and SD is fine. But to say that fighting does not exist and if you think it is only limited to those "baaad urban areas" you are sadly mistaken.

Also, I must say fighting was not frowned upon if it is just. Typically, it would be considered a badge of honor or passage to manhood. It is the part when you as a man (even as a boy) make a stand for yourself (win/loose is not important).

I personally don't like to fight because of my temper and try to avoid at all costs. Part of the problem is that ppl are truly crazy (psychotic) and a fight (if its in your section) is rarely over if you win (and sometime when you don't) you have to look over your shoulder.

Anyway, to answer the question I am a bouncer and I took the job for the cash. But I do admit that I like humbling people when I have the opportunity, but that is only when I am forced. There are a lot of legalities in NYC with security and patrons so it is risky business.

Also, I have an IS 300 which is in need of more HP tried a new cold air intake didn't give much. I used to race years ago when I had a supra, but that was stolen

[nwtogame]

LMAO@IPON first he says he enjoys "humbling" ppl when getting the chance and the asks about more HP for his car? LOL, no really man I think your right on with your thread though. You know there are so many variable to fighting and assault alike. Like for instance two men are set on mugging you, you see the first not paying attention and drop him with a close range hook and quick stomp to the face rendering him "not wanting anymore" now you still have one to deal with right? Now is this considered a streetfigt cause you could most likely leave now but you know your prolly even if he runs going to chase him down and give him a working over. Yeah so you get the point anyhow almost every situation has variables and contain aspects of both SD and "streetfighting" at the same time. Really who cares, the only reason you should be fighting especially since you've been trained in some sort of MA is if you need to "if you think you can get away with it". Like the fight when I said you catch someone with a close range elbow droping them to the ground, SD, then stomping on his head when (as soon as) he hit the ground, ASSAULT.

[nwtogame]

I meant the only time you should be fighting is if you need to NOT "if you think you can get away consequence free" . Thats where MA discipline comes in. After all if you really need to prove youself to someone there is a ring rigt?

[Ahoym8e]

Also, I have an IS 300 which is in need of more HP tried a new cold air intake didn't give much. I used to race years ago when I had a supra, but that was stolen

Turbo, baby!

There's an IS300 wagon here in Houston trapping 125 with a turbo / IC kit.

now you still have one to deal with right? Now is this considered a streetfigt cause you could most likely leave now but you know your prolly even if he runs going to chase him down and give him a working over.

If he runs, I split the scene fast. With my luck, if I give chase, dude # 3 steps out of the shadows and mangles whoever I'm with (wife, buddy, whatever). If I'm alone, why bother chasing...

If the guy running away had punched my wife or kicked my kids or something and it was really clear that no one else was around, I'm not sure what I'd do. Hopefully I'd still choose to get out of there fast.

[shuyun]

you guys probably don't live in a hood where a bad look or refusing a shot of gin can get you killed.

You probably don't live in a place where doing anything including "nothing" can get you killed.

the back alleys of the states is tame compared to the depressed communities in the dog eat dog world of the Philippines. Or any third world country for that matter.

Looking like a pushover can get you victimized but so can looking too confident. the reality of combat is much more real when stomachs growl.

[shuyun]

Hey guys (& gals).

I am new, and have a question: What is the prevailing thought on street fighting?

I am a performance vehicle enthusiast as well, and on the chat boards I frequent regarding that, everyone has strong feelings against street racing. Their strength seems to fade the minute people get away from the keyboard though, and everyone, when challenged on the street by another performance car gives in to the temptation and "engages in a display of acceleration." Even the moderators of the forums that ban people for posting "kill stories" succumb.

So what is it like with street fighting? I sense there is strong opposition to street fighting here, but are some of you guys mega-badasses on the street? I ask that without any value judgment attached, I am just curious what goes on. Anyone pick fights in bars, or get jobs as bouncers just to crush wannabe's?

I’m just trying to get a feel for the crowd, and see what outlook other MMA enthusiasts have.

FWIW, I train mostly for the fun of learning something new and “non-mainstream.” In conflict I prefer “lawyer-fu” and “.45-fu,” but you never know what situation you might find yourself in.

I guess back to my question: Do you guys fight outside of the gym? A lot or just once in a great while when you are good and angry about something?

Just curious

your curiosity points back to your confession, "You are new." those who have been to street fights train all the more to prepare for street fights, yes that's true. But unless one is a self-centered megalomanic martial artist, he would not actively seek opportunities to test his street fighting skills.

Sun Tzu refered to knowing your self and your enemy. On close inspection this also means if you keep yourself from being known, (like not looking for a fight) you keep an ace up your sleeve agaisnt would be opponents.

Don't be too eager to kick megabad-asses. One might end up being whipped themselves.