Would you roll with someone that is openly gay?

[JIMI]

Just curious. I have never encountered this at the gyms that I train at, but cant help but think that some day it may happen. I think I would be weirded out by something like that. You never know if the guy is really there to work technique, or if he is enjoying the romp.... ewwww

[koto_ryu]

Just curious. I have never encountered this at the gyms that I train at, but cant help but think that some day it may happen. I think I would be weirded out by something like that. You never know if the guy is really there to work technique, or if he is enjoying the romp.... ewwww

Mark Kerr, the MMA fighter, is gay.

[JIMI]

Mark Kerr, the MMA fighter, is gay.

Sorry, gotta call BS on that one bro. Mark Kerr got married several years ago, and it still married to this day. And yes, he married a woman ( a psycho woman, but a woman nontheless).

Maybe you are thinking of Tank Abbott who came out of the closet a couple years back.

[koto_ryu]

Sorry, gotta call BS on that one bro. Mark Kerr got married several years ago, and it still married to this day. And yes, he married a woman ( a psycho woman, but a woman nontheless).

Maybe you are thinking of Tank Abbott who came out of the closet a couple years back.

Nope, he buggers guys on the side. Heard it from some very reputable sources, one of which arranges many of the fights in the Okinawa-Japan area. Kerr's a junkie anyways. And no, Tank's not gay last I heard

[Hermosa]

I would like to say that this is a non issue. I mean I roll with women and we stay focused on technique. I rolled with this blonde girl 2 weeks ago in LA. And she was smokin hot...BUT she was really, really good. I couldn't even think of sexuality I was too busy staying on my toes with her. That is awesome!

Unfortunately..I had 2 openly Gay students a while back. I would like to say that they were there to learn and kept sexuality out of it. But alas, they were some of the worst students ever. They couldn't stay serious and I certainly couldn't pair them together.

They always spoke while rolling, always trying to say cute or clever things. The only way I dealt with them..was much like that blonde I rolled with...I kept attacking them and locking them and letting 'em feel the pressure a little bit to keep them focused on what we were trying to accomplish. Eventually they both quit.

This is really too bad, since I have also had homosexual friends that were totally cool, that I never felt uncomfortable around. People like this set back all the progress that the others have made.

[bodhisattva]

Hm, playful is always good.. but nothing should distract from the task at hand, considering others are paying to be there. I can see why that would be a problem.

One of the guys at a judo club I attended was openly gay, and he was HIV+ on top of that. No one seemed to mind, I know I didn't mind a bitv - and I never heard anyone speak behind his back, either. He was a fabulous person, he never went on about his sexuality (none of the straight men went on and on about their sexuality, either..it was triangle choke time..) but it was no secret, either.

He was a great guy, and was a respected member of the class.. he always took a lot of time to show people the fundamentals and to work with newbies, when the rest of the class was often very competitive.

I wouldn't care if I was wrestling a guy and he "enjoyed" it (I'm not gay, or bi), just as I wouldn't care if I was wrestling a girl and she "enjoyed" it. Sexuality exists. It's there, and it won't go away. Best thing is to respect and lovingly accept each other, as best we can. Neither punishment, alienation, nor ostracization (is that a word?) will help us.

On the other hand, if someone makes you feel uncomfortable, you should quickly and clearly express it to them.

That's my think on that.

[Hermosa]

VERY well said. You SBG guys really have it together!

[bodhisattva]

Hermosa: you make me blush to my bones..

Hm. Odds are good that if we wrestle at all, we probably wrestle with at least one gay at the class. There is probably also a man who enjoys paedophilia. And there is probably at least one past-rapist.

Just, statistics being what they are..and I'm not even saying I trust statistics..in fact, I don't trust, much.

But, out of those three distorted personalities, which is more disturbing to have at a class that is functional martial art?

[EmptyneSs]

One of the guys at a judo club I attended was openly gay, and he was HIV+ on top of that. No one seemed to mind, I know I didn't mind a bitv - and I never heard anyone speak behind his back, either.

isnt that dangerous? cause in judo people always get blood on eachother to some degree, because always gripping the gi and pulling on it and whatnot causes peoples fingers to get scraped and bleed all the time. when i was training, we would get blood stains on the gi collars and backs all the time. i wouldnt want an hiv positive guy bleeding on me.


btw, whoever im rolling with, wether or not they are there to drive pleasure from it doesnt really matter, cause im gonna be trying to choke this person or joint lock em, so if they enjoy being armbarred, or choked out then hey let them enjoy it.

[cakegirl]

I'd have no problem rolling with someone who was gay, and no problem rolling with lesbians. (There's a mental image for you boys...!)

[Broadsword2004]

Hmmm, I'd have no problem rolling with anyone, but I'd be wary with a diseased person; my luck I'd cut myself somehow while fighting them.

[JaredExtreme]

I'd have no problem rolling with someone who was gay, and no problem rolling with lesbians. (There's a mental image for you boys...!)

Uhhh....... I need to be alone....

[zanflad]

i dont know, would you really want some big gay boy getting you in the rear mounted postion, that could make you feel a bit vulnerable

[bodhisattva]

"i dont know, would you really want some big gay boy getting you in the rear mounted postion, that could make you feel a bit vulnerable"

What should I feel vulnerable about? I'm in a room full of extremely capable fighters - who all, to one degree or another, care for me and my safety.

Generally, men who are comfortable with themselves within their sexuality (whether straight, gay or bi) have no problem being around men with different sexual preferences.

The key thing people need to learn (i think) is that there is nothing wrong, creepy or gross about anyone's sexuality - so long as noone involved has their will violated. That is the only creepy, gross thing about sex.

Well. Poo-eating is pretty freaking gross. What the hell are those people THINKING?! Seriously..dude. What the hell?
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I can dig the concerns about blood and disease. In fact, that was the first thing I said to him (the fellow with HIV)..As far as we know at this date it is extremely, extremely unlikely that it would be transfered across abrasions/small cuts while wrestling. He was also so concerned about it we never had to tell him. He'd have any abrasions taped before we noticed them.

I probably ran a greater risk of breaking my neck wrestling guys 80 pounds heavier than me - than I *EVER* ran of getting HIV because a cut on my finger rubbed a cut on his finger for 1/16th of a second.

[cakegirl]

Hear, hear!