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  • #31
    Originally posted by pstevens
    In high school... crap, you're comparing high school wrestling to a black belt in BJJ!
    That's precisely what it is. I have a black belt on my dress pants, doesn't mean shit; there are black belts who could wipe the floor with me but there are also black belts who won't step into the ring with me because even when I cut my shots I still was too much for them. Besdes which, sounds like that highschool wrestler beat a BJJ black belt.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SimonM
      That's precisely what it is. I have a black belt on my dress pants, doesn't mean shit; ....
      ....Besdes which, sounds like that highschool wrestler beat a BJJ black belt.

      Funny guy.... A belt is a weapon. Perhaps you've never been "spanked"? Don't make the mistake of assuming that an exception to the rule is the general rule. Most highschool wrestlers and many university level wrestlers would fall to a BJJ bluebelt...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tant01
        Funny guy.... A belt is a weapon. Perhaps you've never been "spanked"? Don't make the mistake of assuming that an exception to the rule is the general rule. Most highschool wrestlers and many university level wrestlers would fall to a BJJ bluebelt...
        Sorry I just don't judge a fighter by their belt. That is foolish. It's all relative; I never said "all BJJ blackbelts would get wiped if they rolled with a Highschool wrestler" I said that particular BJJ blackbelt got beat by that particular Highschool wrestler in response to the post of pstevens who did not believe that was possible.

        No style is invulnerable.
        No belt is a guarantee.

        P.S. If a belt is a weapon does it matter what colour it is?

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        • #34
          [QUOTE=SimonM]Sorry I just don't judge a fighter by their belt. That is foolish. It's all relative; I never said "all BJJ blackbelts would get wiped if they rolled with a Highschool wrestler" I said that particular BJJ blackbelt got beat by that particular Highschool wrestler in response to the post of pstevens who did not believe that was possible.

          No style is invulnerable.
          No belt is a guarantee.

          P.S. If a belt is a weapon does it matter what colour it is?[/QUOTE


          Well put; I always think it comes down to the fighter, training and expereince help, but in the end your rank or belt will not make you the winner.

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          • #35
            There is no need to apologize. Only just?
            Where do you get your ideas?Makes sense to me.Who said
            relative; I never said all BJJ blackbelts would get wiped if they rolled with a Highschool wrestler I said that particular BJJ blackbelt got beat by that particular Highschool wrestler in response to the post of pstevens who did not believe that was possible is?Why not? And invulnerable is style.
            Why not? When is belt not a guarantee?
            Is this a riddle?
            I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sensei Saki
              Why not? When is belt not a guarantee?
              Is this a riddle?
              I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.
              The belt is not a guarantee because there is no standardization between belt curricula and real situations. Many schools reward black belts to people who are incapable of fighting either because they do not train fighters, they train fighters poorly or they train good tournament fighters but focus on a rule-based environment in their training. Considering this a belt is never a guarantee.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SimonM
                Sorry I just don't judge a fighter by their belt. That is foolish. It's all relative; I never said "all BJJ blackbelts would get wiped if they rolled with a Highschool wrestler" I said that particular BJJ blackbelt got beat by that particular Highschool wrestler in response to the post of pstevens who did not believe that was possible.

                No style is invulnerable.
                No belt is a guarantee.

                P.S. If a belt is a weapon does it matter what colour it is?


                No need to apologize, I was just reminded of a fight I saw once where both the attacker and defender removed their belts and began swinging them at each other. I guess the size of the buckle and the girth of the gut would give one the advantage, eh? Then there's binding or strangling.
                ...and spanking!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ChunGi
                  Bjj isnt that cool. Its only effective against people how arent very good at there martial art...... honestly. the problme is that Bjj doesnt incorperate good blocking and striking technique. yeah ur screwed if they mount u, but every BJJ fighter i ever went up against never got me down or i took them down and went from there. since i am doing MMA i decided to triain it abit and found it pretty basic. one thing i disliked is this arm bar type move where u put the arm between ur legs adn arch ur back. seemed very ineffective and useless..... i dunno jsut ranting

                  You're not a very bright kid, are you?

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                  • #39
                    Not this again

                    Originally posted by Yu Law
                    I've seen bigger guys get put to sleep in boxing , muay thai wing chun and karate.

                    Its about aplication, tech. and speed. Strenth is important, but unless you plan on ending a fight with 1 big haymaker (which would work) a smaller guy with the same skill level who has more speed will beat you.

                    ....................................

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bodhisattva
                      Fighting is the only teacher.
                      you're partially right

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Tant01
                        Funny guy.... A belt is a weapon. Perhaps you've never been "spanked"? Don't make the mistake of assuming that an exception to the rule is the general rule. Most highschool wrestlers and many university level wrestlers would fall to a BJJ bluebelt...
                        Have you ever seen the movie "Pookie Tang"????

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by medic06
                          Have you ever seen the movie "Pookie Tang"????

                          Never heard of Pootie Tang before now, sounds crappy.

                          (google thinks you misspelled it?)

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ChunGi
                            since i am doing MMA i decided to triain it abit and found it pretty basic... i dunno jsut ranting
                            Well lets hear aout your MMA shool and you fighting record: I am very interested to hear from you what makes your MMA club better that the average BJJ?
                            How often do you train?
                            How does your club separate the striking and grapling classes?
                            How often does you club has MMA fight against other clubs?
                            If so, how many fight have you taken part?
                            What rules do you use for MMA e.g headbutt/elbows allowed?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by wardancer
                              Well lets hear aout your MMA shool and you fighting record: I am very interested to hear from you what makes your MMA club better that the average BJJ?
                              How often do you train?
                              How does your club separate the striking and grapling classes?
                              How often does you club has MMA fight against other clubs?
                              If so, how many fight have you taken part?
                              What rules do you use for MMA e.g headbutt/elbows allowed?

                              Hey wardancer.

                              You might like this from his profile,...

                              "Martial Art(s) Studied:
                              My main style of martial art is Taekwon-do. I have also studied in length, Systems and Jeet Kun Do. I am begining my studies in Mui Tai kickboxing. I have been developing my chi and focus for about 1 year. Was provincial open sparring gold in 2000.
                              Occupation:
                              Student. I help organize a weekly open sparring club".



                              So he's a TKD boy that can't even spell the other styles he's studied "in length"

                              But we should give him a break, he's only been working on his "Chi and focus for about 1 year"....

                              If he ACTUALLY sparred in the provincial open back in 2000, he must have been a powerful Pee Wee player!

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                              • #45
                                Oh snap, oh snap! Good one Tant01.

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