Forms Really necessary for combat

[pstevens]

we have had this discussion before Bri.


the teach things like,

posture, balance, (keeping your center)
They teach the basics of technique
They aid in memorization of techniques for new students
Rote training of basic technique
Basic combination building and stringing


But they are a static exercise. For combat you need to progress on to dynamic exercises such as sparring or focus mit training as an example.

Yes... Posture, balance and basics are important, so why not just make them the martial art? Why invent other "stuff" to substitute for the REAL stuff?

For instance, in boxing the basics are the jab, cross, uppercut and hook. You learn these and apply them EXACTLY the same way you learned them. You learn correct posture and balance through movement while sparring. That's FUNCTIONAL FORM.

[eXcessiveForce]

because not all people will learn that way effectively.

First static then dynamic. This progression allows everyone to progress. Going straight to dynamic can overload some people.

It is about 50/50 of those who get to sparring and love it, and those who are terrified of it and become so defensive all they do is take hits.

As I said it is a tool for teaching. It allows someone to get the basics without fear of injury. I've yet to see anyone injured in forms, I have seen plenty of injuries in sparring.

Even boxing does not throw a new person into the ring right of the bat. They start with teaching a punch and then move on pad work, Usually the pads don't move much at first or the techniques are limited, (just jab) thus static, and then progresses to more dynamic, moving pads or cues to tell you what combinations to throw.

Nobody starts out full out intentionally.

[Maxx]

A close friend, Instructor and fellow theorist once told me that there are 5 steps towards complete mastery of a technique. He may read this so I hope I get it right:

1: Learning the technique

2: Practicing the technique

3: Mastering the technique

4: Functionalizing the technique

5: Maintaining the technique

[eXcessiveForce]

Good points maxx I like those

[medic06]

You are totally confused. Judo and Jujitsu kata are totally different from karate style kata/forms.

Totally different, yet with the same goals in mind

[Hardball]

Totally different, yet with the same goals in mind

Judo kata's are a type of sparring and are done with a partner.

[Maxx]

I knew you were gonna see that, Mike. I just knew it!