Grapplers beware...

[BoarSpear]

Sure, he can be aware of what the grappler might(or is gonna) do to him, but unless he has experiance and proper training in defending takedowns, getting out of clinches and even getting to his feet if taken down, then he is still exposed to the grapple's strengths and his own weakness(lack of grappling skill). The striker might not have to grapple all that much but there will be a point in time like in a clinch where he will have to push the grappler off.

I can say the same about the grappler, if he isnt used to defending against palm strikes, elbows, and knees and the throws of Judo he isnt prepared for a fight with a stand up fighter, if you cant take me down i dont care how good your ground game is....unless you can butt scoot around a ring and beg the other guy to lie down missionary position with you, you're gonna need more than a good ground game. and you're wrong about wanting to push you off in a clinch, i will pummel you with headbutts, elbows, knees, shoulders, forearms, palms, hammerfist, and stomps, all of those things can be dimmak strikes jr....before you make fun of something, you might wanna have an inkling what you're talking about.

[J-Luck]

I can say the same about the grappler, if he isnt used to defending against palm strikes, elbows, and knees and the throws of Judo he isnt prepared for a fight with a stand up fighter, if you cant take me down i dont care how good your ground game is....unless you can butt scoot around a ring and beg the other guy to lie down missionary position with you, you're gonna need more than a good ground game. and you're wrong about wanting to push you off in a clinch, i will pummel you with headbutts, elbows, knees, shoulders, forearms, palms, hammerfist, and stomps, all of those things can be dimmak strikes jr....before you make fun of something, you might wanna have an inkling what you're talking about.

wait a sec... am I not on your block list?

[BoarSpear]

Alright, none of what you just posted has anything to do with the book or Dim Mak at all!

please enlighten me jr, WHAT is dimmak? please tell me, you seem so knowledgable as to what it isnt capable of and what its NOT, so why dont you tell me what it is? Where did you study? what art IS the very vehicle upon which the legend of dimmak was built?

[J-Luck]

Boarspear... Throws in Judo are grappling.... For some reason there is a thought that grappling is strictly the ground. And, how come I'm not on your block list anymore... *sighs* I must be doing SOMETHING WRONG... lol.

[BoarSpear]

Boarspear... Throws in Judo are grappling.... For some reason there is a thought that grappling is strictly the ground. And, how come I'm not on your block list anymore... *sighs* I must be doing SOMETHING WRONG... lol.

Really? judo throws are grappling? Do the Gracies know this??

PS i thought you were banned, so i dropped you off, my mistake i can rectify it, thanks for pointing it out.

[J-Luck]

Really? judo throws are grappling? Do the Gracies know this??

PS i thought you were banned, so i dropped you off, my mistake i can rectify it, thanks for pointing it out.

Lol... I never did anything worthy of being banned, only contributed to this site... by the way, just so you know, the whole reason you were mad... the situation with tom, you completly misconstrued... I commended Tom on that post and denounced andy murray for dissing tom, you though i was dissing him. Oh well... I guess it's done. Block me if you want, but I just wanted to clear that up.

[J-Luck]

And I agree about the Gracies lol... But I have always though of grappling to encompass 2... possibly 3 of the 4 ranges of fighting. Close range, Clinch range, and ground. I think the whole going to the ground thing is a lil overrated(though necessariry in some situations... and being on your back... **** that man.

[SwissPrecision]

@ BoarSpear and J-Luck: No need to explain to this idiot what fighting is all about. I just read some of his posts, 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 is a sinister joke. For example in JKD forum, after 5 pages of endless philosophycal debate on what JKD is ... just sayes "martial arts you practice that are geared for the streetz." - thaaaa. I was just wondering; did he have the common respect to read the topic before posting ? No.

[J-Luck]

@ BoarSpear and J-Luck: No need to explain to this idiot what fighting is all about. I just read some of his posts, 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 is a sinister joke. For example in JKD forum, after 5 pages of endless philosophycal debate on what JKD is ... just sayes "martial arts you practice that are geared for the streetz." - thaaaa. I was just wondering; did he have the common respect to read the topic before posting ? No.

Lol... ummmm, we've had to suffer through him for a while now... so you're preaching to the choir... if anything YOU'RE joining us, not the other way around lol.

[BoarSpear]

@ BoarSpear and J-Luck: No need to explain to this idiot what fighting is all about. I just read some of his posts, 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 is a sinister joke. For example in JKD forum, after 5 pages of endless philosophycal debate on what JKD is ... just sayes "martial arts you practice that are geared for the streetz." - thaaaa. I was just wondering; did he have the common respect to read the topic before posting ? No.

Yeah he is bucking for a final return to my hall of shame...

[BoarSpear]

Lol... I never did anything worthy of being banned, only contributed to this site... by the way, just so you know, the whole reason you were mad... the situation with tom, you completly misconstrued... I commended Tom on that post and denounced andy murray for dissing tom, you though i was dissing him. Oh well... I guess it's done. Block me if you want, but I just wanted to clear that up.

just giving ya a little grief you were grouped into the troll group because you were running with them for awhile...you not on it anymore

[J-Luck]

just giving ya a little grief you were grouped into the troll group because you were running with them for awhile...you not on it anymore

lol I never ran with them... Though I see I'm still blocked... lol, don't worry though, it's more of an honor than anything...

[BoarSpear]

And I agree about the Gracies lol... But I have always though of grappling to encompass 2... possibly 3 of the 4 ranges of fighting. Close range, Clinch range, and ground. I think the whole going to the ground thing is a lil overrated(though necessariry in some situations... and being on your back... **** that man.

JJJ and judo and shuai chaio, and Baqua all contain standing grappling i agree, however the MMA people often to think grappling equals the guard

[J-Luck]

JJJ and judo and shuai chaio, and Baqua all contain standing grappling i agree, however the MMA people often to think grappling equals the guard

And they are retarded for thinking this.

[SamuraiGuy]

JJJ and judo and shuai chaio, and Baqua all contain standing grappling i agree, however the MMA people often to think grappling equals the guard

MMA people dont think grappling equals the gaurd, BoarSpear thats a broad generalized statement and you know it. Cmon.

I would probably agree with MMA people think "grappling" is fighting on the ground, Gaurd, Mount, Side Control, The back...

They would still be wrong, but thats not the point, dont make completely generalized (wrong) statements.