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Nobody was talking to you idiot fuctard, I was taking to JLuck, duh. Go talk to the wall or that blow up doll you jack off to with playgirl center folds taped to its back.
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The knowledge of Pat's BJJ status doesnt make or break your troll status... its the fact that you continuously argue this shit when you've been proven wrong so many times...
If I said.. an apple is an orange... and someone proved to me an apple wasnt an orange... I would say.
Okay!... and move on.
I wouldnt go to another thread and say "an apple is an orange".. then they prove me wrong, and then go to another thread and say "an apple is an orange". Get it? Stop repeating the Gracie Nuthugging you moron, not only Gracie but BJJ nuthugging. Honestly you immature douche, the fact that STILL you blindly argue BJJ > Everything, in every thread, when you've been proven wrong is just sad.
It's even sadder when you claim this to be the best, claim to have the knowledge of it which makes you superior, yet you dont even know one of the most famous MMA coaches rank, in the sport that you nuthug. You nuthug all BJJ blackbelts, yet you dont even know who they are. Fucking moron.
I noticed your post got deleted or some shit too. Why was that?
At first I said I thought Hughes would win, then I said, aaah its a little close maybe 60-40 for hughes, then with about a month before the fight, I realized Hughes would destroy him.
I can find the posts for you, where I outline why Hughes has the advantages, dictates where the fight goes, ground and pound, strength, age, I also said he was a better grappler than Royce, as to which if I remember, a user named "georgie" called me an idiot, and said he would be the first to rub it in my face when Royce won.
Well, looks like someone did predict it, I'm not sure if J-Luck did, but I know I did. And Btw, I dont agree with the "wrestler owns the bjj guy", I agree with the, MMA fighter with much much much superior wrestling, much much much more MMA pedigree, and Good Bjj would win. (Hughes is good at BJJ, great at grappling, Royce is great at BJJ.) Then there would be the next step above in grappling, absolutelyfrickingamazing which is for the Jacare's and Garcias of the world.
Then, the SamuraiGuy level lmao.
Which is what I thought too. And said repeatedly months before the fight. I didn't mean to come across as wrestling v bjj... but what I meant was Matt knows enough bjj (and is continuing to learn) to get by with Royce... and with his amazingly superior wrestling aka positional skills he would dominate. And he did.
Why do you keep using BJ Penn Homo.... Matt was inexperience in subs then. Completly. Different fighter... I'd like to see someone say he's the same fighter he was back then... they'd be making a fool of themselves. And Tito... he's a good wrestler, but no where near the caliber of Matt Hughes... he's a local community college state champ... Matt is a national D-1 NCAA 5th placer... not even close to being close to being close to being on the same matt as each other.
That being said... is Royce all that good when it comes to competiton... I know he's won some prestigious titles... but I watched alot of his fights in bjj... and all I've seen is losses so far... could someone clarify this? Is he well respected in the bjj community? I know you can rank high and not necessarily compete well.
Yeah I was hullicanating when BJ Penn spanked Matt Hughes (the awesome world class wreestler and greatest MMA welter wieght ever LOL) around the ring like a bitch. Hughes knew little BJJ and got OWNED, no amount of wrestling can prepare you for BJJ submissions,wrestlers just dont have the ground game down at all. period. Now that matt was taught by Pat who is brown belt in BJJ, we see he is awesome
Silly homo... wrestling is OBVIOUSLY good on the ground or matt wouldn't have had the skills to pick up on bjj so quick since bj penn .
He's been a blackbelt for 2 years... check your facts before you post them silly homo.
I'd like to see Penn OWN him these days... though I think it would be quite the battle.
Silly homo... wrestling is OBVIOUSLY good on the ground or matt wouldn't have had the skills to pick up on bjj so quick since bj penn .
He's been a blackbelt for 2 years... check your facts before you post them silly homo.
I'd like to see Penn OWN him these days... though I think it would be quite the battle.
of course its a huge advantage to pick up BJJ quickly if youre a world class wrestler, hence the Lindlands and Coutures and Liddels and Hughes of the world. Thing is these guys would get schooled at the ADCC as it stands, but the good wrestlers there that switched to training in BJJ, like Monson, are animals. Well, who knows, I would like to see Randy or Liddel or Hughes in one of those ADCCs, then again imagine what Marcelo Garcia would do to Matt Hughes? visions of penn - hughes flashing through my head lol
He's been a blackbelt for 2 years... check your facts before you post them silly homo.
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I said Pat was a brown belt because watching the International Fight League or whatever it is the other night, the commentator said Pat was a brown belt, so I assumed he was, and that being a recent event didnt make me think he wasnt. And besides, a good brown belt isnt that far off a balck anyway, same thing pretty much,maybe just a fraction of a second slower at some moves
Originally posted by DUMBASS WHO SHOULDNT POST BECAUSE HE BRINGS NO VALID POINTS TO A DEBATE...EVER!
of course its a huge advantage to pick up BJJ quickly if youre a world class wrestler, hence the Lindlands and Coutures and Liddels and Hughes of the world. Thing is these guys would get schooled at the ADCC as it stands, but the good wrestlers there that switched to training in BJJ, like Monson, are animals. Well, who knows, I would like to see Randy or Liddel or Hughes in one of those ADCCs, then again imagine what Marcelo Garcia would do to Matt Hughes? visions of penn - hughes flashing through my head lol
Because ADDCC is a differnt type of grappling, they obviously needed to adjust to the style and rules... wrelsting is wreslting... bjj is bjj... remember bjj doesn't translate nearly as well to wrestling as wrestling does to bjj... hmmm i wonder why...
Thier animals... well i dont see any high level wrestlers competing as original bjj artists... isn't quite as complete...
Visions of Penn in your head... you truly are a Homo... I didn't wanna belive it, but you've verified it for me.
I said Pat was a brown belt because watching the International Fight League or whatever it is the other night, the commentator said Pat was a brown belt, so I assumed he was, and that being a recent event didnt make me think he wasnt. And besides, a good brown belt isnt that far off a balck anyway, same thing pretty much,maybe just a fraction of a second slower at some moves
Really... a fraction lol... that's a stupid statement... doesn't surprise me coming from you... MAYBE, if you mean a low level just got his black belt as a opposed to a high level about to be a black belt brown belt under the same instructor as the previously stated black belt... then sure!
Really... a fraction lol... that's a stupid statement... doesn't surprise me coming from you... MAYBE, if you mean a low level just got his black belt as a opposed to a high level about to be a black belt brown belt under the same instructor as the previously stated black belt... then sure!
true the higher ranked black belts toss around the lower ones, no doubt about that
Visions of Penn in your head... you truly are a Homo... I didn't wanna belive it, but you've verified it for me.
Penn completely and totally OWNED Hughes. THere is no debate or question about that. OWNED LIKE A BITCH, PERIOD.
That really gets your goad cuz Hughes wrestling DID NOTHING to avoid that result.
Penn is the first american to win the worlds in Brazil in BJJ, yeah I respect his BJJ, so Im gay? LOL, you wish i was gay so you could suck my dick and tape a picture of matt huges face over mine and pretend lmao
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