Mixed Martial Arts, One of the oldest forms of fighting.

[jubaji]

STFU begins at home

this this is happening on a public forum and I'm sick of hearing about it.

And I'm kind of sick of hearing you be sick about it.

[Sagacious Lu]

And I'm kind of sick of hearing you be sick about it.

I suppose you could cry about it then

[jubaji]

I suppose you could cry about it then

I think you've already covered that.

[DickHardman]

We get accused and debated every day. Hell I got bashed by DickHardman, Tree, Garland and some invisible posters for sticking up for my beliefs, but in the end most of us still get along - even though the debates still heat up now and then.

sorry if you felt i was bashing you for your beliefs, i know i come off kind of harsh sometimes, but i don't mean any ill will by it.

if you ever come to cali, let me know and ill blaze you out real proper, and ill even burn you a copy of my favorite dvd, "Virtual Sex with Teagan Presley".

[Tom Yum]

sorry if you felt i was bashing you for your beliefs, i know i come off kind of harsh sometimes, but i don't mean any ill will by it.

I'm not offended nor bothered, but I appreciate your good will.

[BoarSpear]

[knifethrower]

You said you chose your words with care. Now, I'm choosing these words with equal care. You are sticking your nose into other people's business - namely mine. I would sincerely like for you to drop it and not bring it up anymore. Especially if the only person you're going to cast blame at is me. I don't want to hear another thing about it from you. Please stop. I need no apology or explanation, no further clarification on your motives, and no expansion on your points. I do not want your take on Boar's side of it either. I will delete any and all posts that attempt any of these things.

Not that I want this message deleted or anything but, why delete?

[JkD187]

First off Uke this whole Thread needs to be moved to Urban Street Combat or w.e its called because thats what it was created for! talking about STREET SELF DEFENSE did you not read the thread Title: BJJ AND MMA discussion...stop bringing your Street B.S onto this forum were all sick of this crap....just like your thread before"so you think BJJ is effective for the street huh" or w.e it was.If your not going to be discussing BJJ or MMA no need to be in this forum.Second off you need to start learning some stuff before you start to spew your Garbage...Couture Boxed in the ARMY and fought a few matches as well he didnt have just a few months Boxing you moron he had YEARS.Also i can name quite a few examples of MMA fighters who ventured out into K-1 and made an impact like Quintion Rampage Jackson 2-0 2ko's in K-1 Genki Sudo 4-3 1 Ko in K-1 Kid Yamamoto 3-2 3 ko's in K-1.Mark kerr in abu dhabi Tito ortiz in abu dhabi Matt hughes in Abu dhabi Couture having a draw with Jacare possibly the best P4P grappler in the world.Then there are the K-1 guys who got wrecked by no name boxers with ease in Ray Sefo and Mighty Mo.Now dont get me wrong plenty of MMA fighters came out of MMA and got killed its just that most were B level at best and give others a bad rep.

[knifethrower]

Because I too am tired of hearing it. And I'm tired of repeated attempts to reignite a grudge.

I don't know...I was just thinking how about "not read" as oposed to "delete"

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

i've read as much of the thread as i could stomach at one go which was a little over half, so forgive me if this has been brought up.

Uke, i actually agree with quite a bit you have to say (i feel like i'm going to ostricize myself saying that!) But i don't really see the point of pointing out that MMA guys get beat in K-1 or strictly grappling tournies. Maybe they are jacks of all trades and masters of none, but if you're going to bring up the SD issue, i think it's actually a much bigger folly to master one trade and neglect the others.

In the realm of sports, why is it more admirable to master a smaller skillset?

The rules of boxing or K-1 or bjj tournaments are more contrived than MMA rules in terms of "reality" vs sport.

[Sagacious Lu]

Lu, If I offended you, I did not mean to, and I apologize right here, publicly for having done so.

Thank you.

I would sincerely like for you to drop it and not bring it up anymore.

Done. I had something to say so I said it, and now I'm going to drop it.

[Uke]

First off Uke this whole Thread needs to be moved to Urban Street Combat or w.e its called because thats what it was created for! talking about STREET SELF DEFENSE did you not read the thread Title: BJJ AND MMA discussion...stop bringing your Street B.S onto this forum were all sick of this crap....just like your thread before"so you think BJJ is effective for the street huh" or w.e it was.If your not going to be discussing BJJ or MMA no need to be in this forum.Second off you need to start learning some stuff before you start to spew your Garbage...Couture Boxed in the ARMY and fought a few matches as well he didnt have just a few months Boxing you moron he had YEARS.Also i can name quite a few examples of MMA fighters who ventured out into K-1 and made an impact like Quintion Rampage Jackson 2-0 2ko's in K-1 Genki Sudo 4-3 1 Ko in K-1 Kid Yamamoto 3-2 3 ko's in K-1.Mark kerr in abu dhabi Tito ortiz in abu dhabi Matt hughes in Abu dhabi Couture having a draw with Jacare possibly the best P4P grappler in the world.Then there are the K-1 guys who got wrecked by no name boxers with ease in Ray Sefo and Mighty Mo.Now dont get me wrong plenty of MMA fighters came out of MMA and got killed its just that most were B level at best and give others a bad rep.

You know JKD, we could have a decent conversation if you weren't a such a dickhead.

The first post alone on "So you think BJJ is effective for the street" topic had generated more interest than anything you've ever written.

Next, no matter what Couture might have done, he's a wrestler first and foremost as is obvious by watching the man or just looking at his record which shows how he wins most of his fights. Also, if you read what was written, you'd see that I wrote that most MMA fighters don't do well. Never said all.

I applaud the fact that you took the time to give some examples. But you gave about 7 examples out of over hundreds of MMA fighters which just goes to prove what? What you wrote is the exception, not the rule.

And just so you know, assholes like you were all over the urban forum. If you don't like these topics, you should learn to stay in the kiddie pool where you belong.

[Tom Yum]

Looks like diplomacy (mixed with humor) is working.

Sorry jubaji, looks like its out of your hands - but as long as the net exists, there will be trolls that need a suplexing.

[jubaji]

And just so you know, assholes like you were all over the urban forum. If you don't like these topics, you should learn to stay in the kiddie pool where you belong.

pUke being a d-bag yet again!

[jubaji]

Looks like diplomacy (mixed with humor) is working.

Sorry jubaji, looks like its out of your hands - but as long as the net exists, there will be trolls that need a suplexing.

As long as the likes of pUke are around...