Ufc 73 Stacked

[buster brown]

point well taken, Heremes did stand up but was immediatly taken back down probably more in the 5th round, though he never had a chance to breath, as Sherk set a brutal pace, props to Hermes for going the distance at the pace Sherk set.

I don't recall all that many scrambles in the other rounds....though Sherk moved from guard to half guard to side control to mount pretty much at will.
Debatable as to weather Hermes was actually letting him do it, or Sherk was just to strong to stop him. In my view I saw Hermes on his back alot......except when turtleing and the temporary stand up.......any submission attempts were pretty brief.
The leg locks were especially brief.
The knees from Hermes were his best move and almost scored the KO.......but they were one shot deals, The first guilotine was deep and probably his best shot at a submission.....then how many time do you see someone submitted with a guilotine choke......In my opinion they onley work half the time and certainly not with someone who has a neck like Sherks.
I admit Sherk never really had Hermes hurt....which was disappointing.
BB

[J-Luck]

"at least"?

Yup. MMA is more taxing on cardio and the muscles than wrestling. I would argue boxing is slightly more, though close.

[J-Luck]

Oh brother....

I'm sorry. You don't like good work ethic? Maybe you don't like dedication?

I'm really confused here, why are you giving me sarcasm? Maybe you think I'm lying.

[treelizard]

Yup. MMA is more taxing on cardio and the muscles than wrestling. I would argue boxing is slightly more, though close.

I don't know about that. One of the guys I train (very well-conditioned) with went to train wrestling for fun a couple of times and said he was really really sore. He wasn't used to holding positions for very long.

[J-Luck]

Sherk had a ton of opportunities to finish it. He just didn't for some reason. Instead he was like "throw! point! throw! point!" I don't know. I was rooting for him in a table where everyone else was going for Franca but I was disappointed. And it was funny when he said he used good jiu jitsu and wrestling. Good wrestling maybe but there was NO jiu jitsu in that fight...

You're underestimating Franca. He really didn't have any significant opportunities(small ones, but not ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE to a ton) to finish it. Passing guard is jiu-jitsu. They don't teach to any wrestlers I've trained with.

[J-Luck]

True champs can finish fights.

Sure. And Sherk can also, and his being a true champ isn't in doubt by anyone.

[J-Luck]

Sherk told Franca after the fight that he was thinking about tapping but he passed so he was ok.....they also said that Sherk was out cold after the knee in the second round but when Hermes starting punching him he woke back up.

Ohhhhh cmon bro, you and I both know a guillotine that'll tap someone out and wont. I knew right away he wouldn't have tapped. The way his head was positioned, I knew he had just enough time to keep it off so he could pass. I was watching it with a bunch of bjj and MMA guys. Barely any of us were even sweatin it.

The knee, I highly doubt it knocked him out. He grabbed his leg on the way down.

[J-Luck]

I don't know about that. One of the guys I train (very well-conditioned) with went to train wrestling for fun a couple of times and said he was really really sore. He wasn't used to holding positions for very long.

Put it this way. Any pro MMA guys I know(alot, amongst which some are UFC fighters), all tell me in their off time, they're in wrestling shape, and preparing for a fight, they're in fighting shape.

Now, having done both, and knowing many who've done both, I can certainly say that wrestling is taxing, and if you're not much of a grappler, it can be tough, but it's not really like mma. MMA is significantly more taxing on Muscles(many more positions) and on your cardio(many different aspectes not in wrestling to prepare for).

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I guess it was good for Tito because he gets a rematch, and that fight was the last one in his contract. I almost wanted him to win just so he could rub it in Dana White's face. I wondered whether he was purposely going easy on Rashad the first round to try and tire him out. I hate both of their attitudes and showboating, though.

I cant believe there will be a rematch. I saw it coming too, the way they both acted after the decision was announced, i though Dana White was gonna grab the mic from BruceBuffer WWE style and go, "Ok, you guys want a f*ckin rematch?!?! Well youre gonna get at (insert number and cheezy name)!

What really pissed me off was how Rashad was acting (though he probably believed) like he won.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Put it this way. Any pro MMA guys I know(alot, amongst which some are UFC fighters), all tell me in their off time, they're in wrestling shape, and preparing for a fight, they're in fighting shape.
.

Which pro MMA guys do you know?

[jubaji]

Yup. MMA is more taxing on cardio and the muscles than wrestling.

Hmmm, it would seem we have different ideas about what constitutes wrestling shape, and perhaps different experience.

[jubaji]

I'm sorry. You don't like good work ethic? Maybe you don't like dedication?

I'm really confused here, why are you giving me sarcasm? Maybe you think I'm lying.

I think you'd better be careful or you'll break your arm patting yourself on the back like that.

[J-Luck]

Hmmm, it would seem we have different ideas about what constitutes wrestling shape, and perhaps different experience.

Well I know and train with national champs, D-1, D-2, and D-3 wrestlers. I think I have a decent idea of what the two kinds of "in shape" are.

[J-Luck]

I think you'd better be careful or you'll break your arm patting yourself on the back like that.

I try not to worry about it. Though I may speak on myself, my record will truly speak for itself.

[J-Luck]

Which pro MMA guys do you know?

Bunch of local guys, like I said. You probably wouldn't know many of them. They fight in the NAGA circuit, Mass Destruction, and Reality Fighting. Mike Campbell is one who comes to mind as a guy who'll definitly make it into the UFC. Pete Jeffreys(you can see him on youtube) will also, if he chooses to take it that far.

I also train at Tim's with Jorge Rivera, I've trained with Rory Singer when he came to Tim's(he actually stayed at Pete Jeffrey's house, they're buds or something. I've rolled with Kenflow a couple of times, and met some guys who train with him. Also, Lutter, who's a Carlos Machado blackbelt(along with Tim) has come down before.

I havent been to Tims in quite some time though, Money has been killin me man. Rent before training sadly.