Working out with the ladies.-No it's dirty.

[DickHardman]

I can never get used to it. I know, it's wrong, she's there to train hard, blah blah blah. No matter what anybody says, I'll never want to wrestle with a female. I definitely would never want to spar (as in striking) with a female either. Yes, I'm the object of the female student's frustration. I'm (one of) the guy(s) who doesn't want you there. I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. Most of the females I"ve met in BJJ classes have been dike-ish and seem like they want to be "like a guy." That's just my scientific and totally objective take on it. Again, sorry.

sadly, this is true.

[treelizard]

She didn't leave home to go to a knitting class and accidentally wind up in an MMA class instead.

She's there to train. Do her the courtesy of being a useful training partner!

Here here!!

[DickHardman]

this one time i got partnered up with this one dike in jiu jitsu that looked like a shorter version of matt blake. when i was passing her guard i had a hold of her pants at the knees and accidentally pushed up the sleeve on her pant, only to reveal a leg that was covered in so much hair i wanted to fucking throw up. my hand totally brushed against that shit, it was rougher than my beard. i couldnt even get a hard on later that night cause i was so disgusted by my unfortunate encounter.

another time, was rolling with this other chick who has bigger guns than most males in the class, and i made the unfortunate mistake of giving up position for the sake of learning, and she put my in a north south position. she fcking sat on my face and grindded it into the mat, and it smelled so bad i that i had to stuff her belt down my throat to prevent my bile from covering the entire mat and ending practice for everyone in the entire fucking building.

this is why i have like 3-4 GOOD training partners that i roll with, and nobody else. i only roll with people i know for sure i can trust with my limbs and spinal column. be picky with who you train with, it can save you from injury and disgusting experiences like the ones i suffered through

[kanik]

this one time i got partnered up with this one dike in jiu jitsu that looked like a shorter version of matt blake. when i was passing her guard i had a hold of her pants at the knees and accidentally pushed up the sleeve on her pant, only to reveal a leg that was covered in so much hair i wanted to fucking throw up. my hand totally brushed against that shit, it was rougher than my beard. i couldnt even get a hard on later that night cause i was so disgusted by my unfortunate encounter.

another time, was rolling with this other chick who has bigger guns than most males in the class, and i made the unfortunate mistake of giving up position for the sake of learning, and she put my in a north south position. she fcking sat on my face and grindded it into the mat, and it smelled so bad i that i had to stuff her belt down my throat to prevent my bile from covering the entire mat and ending practice for everyone in the entire fucking building.

this is why i have like 3-4 GOOD training partners that i roll with, and nobody else. i only roll with people i know for sure i can trust with my limbs and spinal column. be picky with who you train with, it can save you from injury and disgusting experiences like the ones i suffered through

Haha! awww Dayamn! That sucks like frick on a stick! I agree with the "pick and choose your training partners" thing. It just makes so much sence!

[Little Apple]

Bwaahaha!!! Oh man, you guys crack me up! Anyway, for the record, I would like to say that it can be tricky-as a girl in martial arts- to not either be seen as a wimpy ball of fluff, or a dike. So be compassionate to your female training partners, and help them with their weaknesses just as if you didn't care what their gender was.

Also, I would just like to support all the guys on this forum who will never hit me. I appreciate that, and will make you cookies if ever we meet...in a place where there is an oven...and chocolate chips. Forgive me all you feminazis of the world, but I enjoy knowing that there are men out there who think hurting me is wrong.

In addition, I do appreciate it when a guy who won't train hard-core with a girl tells me that they "just want to work their defense" instead of "your a girl and so I'm not going to take you seriously as a training partner, sorry." As a learning experience for you, you could practice hitting back a little in the last bit of the round if your timer has the 30 second warning beep. Your line would then be, "I need to work my defense, but I'll start hitting back at the warning beep."

[Little Apple]

PS. If you can't hit them, Do still make them work hard. It IS what they are there for. I don't mind being popped in the nose by my training partner if I leave it open, and neither do your female training partners. If it's a matter of honor for you though, and not a "girls can't handle a beating in practice." see my above post.

[KickNit]

That's a credible response. I appreciate that Little Apple. It's tough on a man's ego to know that he hurt his female sparring partner because he was too aggressive, but it's also tough to get his butt kicked because he wasn't aggressive enough. But if a woman kicks his butt because she's - well, just a bad ass chick - then that's cool. She's wife material. :-)

[kanik]

Ooo! Cookies! *jumps for joy* But yeah, What you said was an interesting read ^_^ It all makes good sence. Whenever I am paired up with a female sparring partner, what I usually do is insead of hit them, is just lightly tap them to let them know they woulda been hit. But somtimes they are idiots and dont recognise this even when I say so. But I have trained a bunch of my female friends too.

[matbla]

leave me out of this and any topic unless you can helo me o.k not make fun of me

[Garland]

I've said it before...if women want to train, you have to respect them enough to hit them as hard as you hit anyone else.

I'm all for hitting women. Can I get a "here-here!"?

[Little Apple]

Lol, Here here! They can take it, I'm not saying they can't. I'm not saying go easy on them because they are delicate flowers. I'm merely saying that if you won't hit girls as an honor thing, still make them work hard, and telling them you're working defense will save on hard feelings.

If you won't hit your female training partners because you think you'll break them, you're wrong and I can give you several reasons why. If you think it compromises your integrity, you're probably still wrong, but I support integrity where I find it, so have a cookie.

[treelizard]

I've said it before...if women want to train, you have to respect them enough to hit them as hard as you hit anyone else.

I'm all for hitting women. Can I get a "here-here!"?

Hell yeah. Men that don't hit hard aren't doing women any favors. The guy on the street (or the next guy they are sparring if they're not training for street) isn't going to extend that courtesy. This isn't to say one should never take it easy on noobs (at first!!) but yeah, it takes a real man to hit a woman. Er, don't quote me on that.

[DickHardman]

Hell yeah. Men that don't hit hard aren't doing women any favors.

uh, yes we are.

[Ghost]

uh, yes we are.

yeah, being really honest i think its good for women to learn to defend themselves but the reality is that the average guy will just smash a woman to bits, you know when a guy is really trying to take their head off, chances are the training is going to make little difference as women just dont have the strength. i know that might seem sexist but its the truth.
women get into a false sense of security through martial arts sometimes. the idea of a man hitting a woman with the same force as the hit a guy wont ultimately work.

[William]

I treat male and female students the same. How hard I push someone is based more on their individual skill and mindset then their gender. I've had a few women over the years who were real animals, and I've had guys who were timid as heck. Women need to be pushed just as much as the guys in training. It's true that most women are weaker then men and will have a tougher time in most physical confrontations with men, but I'm very weapon oriented and instruct the women on how to equalize the odds with various implements (if they're open to it).

It's interesting that the few times I've seen training with women get a little weird is when a guy accidentally grabs, brushes against, or touches a breast or the crotch area in the course of training, then suddenly jumps back flustered and apologizes profusely drawing attention the the fact. It's better to just ignore and continue training through....as long as it's not blatant touching that is.



William