Jet lee and mma?

[jubaji]

I Know this is just a movie,

I don't think you really do.

[jubaji]

and you don't even understand the terms you use

I know he does Wu Shu and I am not interested in most of Wu Shu. I teach traditional combative Kung Fu. I see in his movements that he could defend himself.

An 11 year old kid would be embarrassed to spout the infantile shit you do.

[Tant01]

Make believe TC

Hey I already said that I know it was a film. But notice the moves in the film, some of them are real techniques that would work. ....


I don't know who put them together. But the way he does them is excellent, at least on film. ...

... I see in his movements that he could defend himself. But i am speaking more of techniques and clear applications from some of these things we have watched..

.....

I'm sure you could find the men who "put them together"

It falls under CASTING director and CHOREOGRAPHY...

Don't delude yourself.... Or US.

You're just wasting your time.

[TigerClaw]

Even though some kung fu movies are more unreal kung fu. There are some kung fu films that use real kung fu and the actors are real masters and kung fu men, here is just a small sample of this. Even though these things are coreographed the moves are often from the forms. And the fighters are real kung fu masters and kung fu students.

so I am not deluding anyone. I think it was Lau Kar Leung who said that they should put real kung fu into the films. I find it wonderful to see forms I have learned in film and used in such wonderful ways, and very creative ways.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7wejuJLExI&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx93quqmn7M[/YOUTUBE]


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQIWQAEAoY[/YOUTUBE]

[Tant01]

Yes master...

Even though some kung fu movies are more unreal kung fu. There are some kung fu films that use real kung fu and the actors are real masters and kung fu men, ......

But Bruce Lee was trying to get "real" kung-fu to the mass media 40 odd years ago. There is nothing new here.

The spectacle of kung-fu in the movies brings "crouching tiger hidden dragon" to mind.

Lets talk about flying through the tree tops. Bring this circus act into perspective, eh?
LOL

[TigerClaw]

But Bruce Lee was trying to get "real" kung-fu to the mass media 40 odd years ago. There is nothing new here.

The spectacle of kung-fu in the movies brings "crouching tiger hidden dragon" to mind.

Lets talk about flying through the tree tops. Bring this circus act into perspective, eh?
LOL

You know I am not talking about the ropes and wires. I am talking about solid Hung gar in film, or Choy Li Fut or other styles.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Even though some kung fu movies are more unreal kung fu. There are some kung fu films that use real kung fu and the actors are real masters and kung fu men, here is just a small sample of this. Even though these things are coreographed the moves are often from the forms. And the fighters are real kung fu masters and kung fu students.

so I am not deluding anyone. I think it was Lau Kar Leung who said that they should put real kung fu into the films. I find it wonderful to see forms I have learned in film and used in such wonderful ways, and very creative ways.


YouTube - Luk ah choy and wong fei hung


YouTube - Lau family -oldschool demo


YouTube - ???? - Lau Kar Leung footage

Law Kar Ying is an actor and nothing more, he doesn't do kungfu.

[TigerClaw]

Law Kar Ying is an actor and nothing more, he doesn't do kungfu.

I said, Lau Kar Lueng I believe. He is the short man older and he is a master of kung fu. And many of the men I showed in the clips as kung fu experts. Gordon Lui and others.

This is the man I spoke of the other man , english guy with blond hair is also a master and he has been in films also.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQIWQAEAoY[/YOUTUBE]

[Jujujason]

Guys (by this I mean EVERYONE other than Tigerclaw), this putz is obviously a troll trying to get under your skin, in which case he doesn't deserve a response OR he truly is an idiot that believes all the bs that comes out of his pie-hole/fingertips, in which case he's one less guy that you have to worry about out there on the street. Just ignore him and he'll go away. Peace, J~

[TigerClaw]

Guys (by this I mean EVERYONE other than Tigerclaw), this putz is obviously a troll trying to get under your skin, in which case he doesn't deserve a response OR he truly is an idiot that believes all the bs that comes out of his pie-hole/fingertips, in which case he's one less guy that you have to worry about out there on the street. Just ignore him and he'll go away. Peace, J~

What are you talking about? be very specific in your attack, define reason, expound, show details etc. But just to call names and have no evidence or even make any point, is meaningless and useless in this forum. Go ban yourself and I would suggest that you never type another word on the net until you be reasonable and detailed and expound on what you are trying to say..

I am not a troll trying to get under anyones skin.

[TigerClaw]

The men that I showed in clips are kung fu students and the older man is a proficient Kung Fu master, he has been in many kung fu movies and he was one of the people that said they should put real kung fu in the films.

[Marksmarkou]

I dont think this question can be answered without having first watched his training methods. Going by how he fights in movies is pointless, becuse its speeded up and coreographed.

If he trains realistic striking with standup (clinch) and ground grappling, he should have just as good chance as anyone else.

[Jujujason]

I've said this before, but I guess I'll type it again for those that weren't around the first time. Trying to prove somebody's fighting ability by using film clips from martial arts movies is NOT scientific, it's moronic. All of those scenes are carefully choreographed and rehersed weeks if not months beforehand. The outcomes of those 'fights' are all predetermined according to the script/story. The camera angles, lighting, sound effects, camera speed (slo-mo or sped up) and special effects are added to give the most dramatic effect possible to the viewer and the enemy(ies) are all paid to be compliant opponents that fall down and allow themselves to get beat by the star of the movie so that they can continue to work in future movies. Alright? Got that? Is it sinking in, yet???

[TigerClaw]

I've said this before, but I guess I'll type it again for those that weren't around the first time. Trying to prove somebody's fighting ability by using film clips from martial arts movies is NOT scientific, it's moronic. All of those scenes are carefully choreographed and rehersed weeks if not months beforehand. The outcomes of those 'fights' are all predetermined according to the script/story. The camera angles, lighting, sound effects, camera speed (slo-mo or sped up) and special effects are added to give the most dramatic effect possible to the viewer and the enemy(ies) are all paid to be compliant opponents that fall down and allow themselves to get beat by the star of the movie so that they can continue to work in future movies. Alright? Got that? Is it sinking in, yet???

Yes, i think this is understood by all. But you seem to miss the point, the kung fu men I was speaking of are real masters and they put into the films real kung fu. When you watch a two man sparing form in Hung Gar etc, it is a set of pre arranged moves for practicing sparing and for learning how to fight in form. Some do these forms better than others and you can tell the martial artist by how he does them. When I see a pre arranged fight scene for example, I can see the stances of these masters and their hand speed and technique as well. even if they do pre arrange it. I think one of the masters was discussing the films and kung fu in a clip and he said, in the old days they used real kung fu fighters and they would often have to practice many many hours a day on certain sections of the fight scene, sometimes long fights with little editing. He said that the kung fu fighters who did the fight scenes could last for many hours and because of their training had strength in their stances and endurance etc. But he said the fighters today do not do things this way. They are often not real masters and they get tired very fast. There are not many long unedited fight scenes as much. And their are alot of close ups and blurred fight scenes. This, he said was because the movies stars are not trained for endurance and stances etc and so they need to compensate. But the older films were very different.

[Jujujason]

Ooooohh, I get it...'real kung fu'. Ok, well, I apologize then. Listen dummy, if it's not a documentary (ie if there's any FICTIONAL storyline at all), then NONE of it is REAL and if it's not real, then it can't be used to prove (or disprove) someone's fighting prowess. J~