Gracie article in the Washington Post...

[Pit Dog]

I think this is trying to be too much of a control freak.

I cannot control other people's decisions. To attempt to make people "think like you" seems a bit obsessive to me. I guess it amounts to what purpose one wants to put his teachings.

The Gracies try to teach effective reality fighting for competition and street. They are aggressive by nature, and people who take true fighting styles are aggressive by nature. No wimp is going to take MT, but a naturally agressive individual will.

Most people who creep into a dojo wanting to learn "self defense" are a bit on the wimpy side to begin with. They want to build confidence because they have none. They have no thought of competing, and they are UNaggressive by nature.

People who actually fight do so because they like to fight. These people are your serious students who train so that they can become "better" at doing what they like doing ... which is fighting and winning.

It is a parent's job to teach their kid values; it is a fight instructor's job to teach someone how to fight better.

And what an individual fighter does with his skills is not a reflection on the fighting style, but on his own decisions.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Sounds like you would teach a suspected terrorist how to fly
It's not your problem what he does with it, is it?

[Roland]

You're equating a guy who likes to get into street brawls with a terrorist?

[BrownBear]

Re: Destroy Homosexual PERVERTS...

Originally posted by West_Philly
I should not even have to say this... All right-minded REAL men know that our Creator COMMANDED us to DESTROY Homosexual PERVERTS. He COMMANDED us to STONE THEM TO DEATH!

Now,if you have a problem with God' s Commandments then so be it.

Wow! If you are going quote God and tell others what He says, you should make real sure you get it right. You should also have the whole story. Before you go blasting away at people for sin you need to take a good hard look at your own heart. Remember, Jesus' comments to the crowd that was ready to stone the prostitute, "he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her"". As a true believer in Jesus Christ I must tell you that the homosexual is welcomed to the seat next to me at my church anyday anytime. He should feel right at home with all of us other sinners. What sinners need is Christ, not another sinner throwing rocks at them.

BrownBear

[Pit Dog]

LOL

Toudiyama ... you're a flippin' idiot.

Just thought you should know.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Originally posted by Roland
You're equating a guy who likes to get into street brawls with a terrorist?

No I compare people who facilitate people, who attack innocent people


maybe it was too harsh perhaps : he would sell 100 sleepingpills to someone he knows is manic depressive and during a depression suicidal

I wouldn't do it, would you?

[Pit Dog]

Reality Check

Toudiyama, here's a thought:

Not everyone gets into martial arts to be Kwai Chang Caine, and a master of serentity.

Some people actually like to fight, and take MA to get better at fighting.

Now I don't agree with bashing any group or picking on anyone, but that is not my problem. Maybe if I were teaching someone and he started doing this I would kick him out, but if I were going to be a MA instructor, I would certainly want my students to fight, and not to waste my time learning all I had to teach them for nothing.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

You want your students to fight..in a match, preferbaly not on the streets
If you teach someone to shoot, you want him to hunt or shoot matches not start shooting in the streets
If a majority of my students start shooting people in the street, I should either watch who I teach or How I teach

Of coarse if you are just in there for the money than you probably don't care at all, which isn't so in your case

I can see that in a sense we do agree to a certain extend

[BadgerFu57]

Toudyima

Is from Europe. 'Nuff said.

Besides, if someone was going to beat up gay people, they would do it anyway. The only difference is they would use bats and hammers and stuff. Psycho's will be psychos.

Gay people should just take BJJ to learn how to defend themselves. But I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a gay man in my guard. Maybe it would make me train harder. I would want to get him off me as soon as possible, lol.

[Cain]

Spirituality is a good thing.. organized religion is not.. who are you? who am I? who are WE to define god...?

[sk12879]

Re: Toudyima

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
Gay people should just take BJJ to learn how to defend themselves. But I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a gay man in my guard. Maybe it would make me train harder. I would want to get him off me as soon as possible, lol.

Awfully presumptious of you to think that a gay man being in your guard would automatically turn him on. Or maybe your homophobia would work to his advantage....you'd be so concerned with him trying to get a piece of you that he'd pass your guard and tap you out quickly.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Re: Toudyima

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
Is from Europe. 'Nuff said.

Besides, if someone was going to beat up gay people, they would do it anyway. The only difference is they would use bats and hammers and stuff. Psycho's will be psychos.

Strange that you disagree with me, the webpage in your profile is a christian MA-gym that even mentions the bible on the page