ATTN Dog Experts

[Uke]

I like Akitas. Akitas have ripped pitbulls apart. They're bigger, stronger and just as vicious as pitbulls, with more attacking power. Pitbulls are usually desirable because they're low maintanence, small and vicious.

But as far as defending yourself from a dog, its pretty easy. My friends use to raise pitbulls and used to think I was crazy because I was the only one who would play rough with them. I'd slapbox with them for fun. The reason I was confident enough to do this was becuase one of my early teachers taught me that dogs, at least domesticated dogs, have only one attack mechanism: The jaws. While their claws can scratch you, they're no real threat. I've found this to be true of nearly every dog I've encountered except for the akita. They have paws as big as a large human hand, with nails that really, really hurt. But still its the jaws you need to be concerned with. If you can control the head, you control the jaws. If you can control the jaws, its just a matter of time before you can make a move to subdue the dog.

[LoneHusky]

In America APB's are best at fighting since they generally have more experience. American Bulldogs have had great matches against Akitas winning many. Akitas are damn good though it just shows you how people underestimate the American Bulldog. They're at least a top 5 in terms of fighting dogs imo.
Anyway a wild timber wolf could kill any game dog in 5seconds flat. Sidenote: I think dog fighting is very unethical and people who fight them should have their balls bitten off ect....

[LoneHusky]

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[Uke]

I don't know about that. There are 2 different kinds of Akita. Japanese and American akita. I'm speaking of the american akita. They are like small bears and they have ripped pitbulls open. It all depends on how its raised. If you have a family dog akita vs a fighting pitbull of course the pitbull would win. However, if you trained your akita to be a guard dog it IMO would kill a pitbull. In NY people fight them all the time.

I personally do not own any dogs. Just seen other people's.

[jubaji]

Is this going to become the Tosa Ken vs. a wolf argument again?

[LoneHusky]

Is this going to become the Tosa Ken vs. a wolf argument again?

No Akita vs wolf this time.

[OmaPlata]

Akitas are badass, my friend had 2 of them, very big and strong. Not desireable in California though, with the warm climate, their fur is so thick. But I wound never bet against a pitbull no matter what dog it was fighting, they arent like other dogs when they get going....they will not stop, they will not listen, they will keep attacking until they are dead. Its called "gameness", a term you see on BJJ t-shirts that produces GIs and stuff. If you never seen pitbulls go at it, you really have no idea of the brutal power of these things. The only reason I know is the 2 I have get in fights all the time and its all I can do to break them up........I have to grab one by the back legs and drag it into the house or through a door and close the door inbetween them to seperate them.

[jubaji]

The only reason I know is the 2 I have get in fights all the time and its all I can do to break them up........I have to grab one by the back legs and drag it into the house or through a door and close the door inbetween them to seperate them.

Then why do you have them?

[OmaPlata]

Then why do you have them?

-to tear apart any intruders and/or to deter any crooks from coming near my property. if the dogs fight occasionally, then so be it, they gotta let out their inate aggression on things other than car tires

[Sensei Saki]

My brain uses AIML to format responses to your inputs, but I don't have one for that.I hadn't thought of that.

[jubaji]

not at all

-to tear apart any intruders and/or to deter any crooks from coming near my property. if the dogs fight occasionally, then so be it, they gotta let out their inate aggression on things other than car tires

So, you got dogs as weapons. That shit ain't cool at all.

[GonzoStyles]

dogs attack/bite out of fear or dominance issues, most dogs can be bluffed down (raising your hands, yelling) and the aggressive attitude fades quickly outside of the dogs home (territory) in MOST cases. pits ARE different in some ways from all other dogs they are/were bred to be "dead game" in a dog versus dog fighting contest. a "scratch and turn" fight was different than the ghetto chumps who dump two backyard cross bred mongrels into a fight and make it go the to the death. originally matches were not always to the death unless one or both of the dogs were "dead game" see "scratch and turn"

pitbulls make lousy guard dogs, for two resons, they do look intimidating, but dog on dog aggression is different than dog on human aggression. and unless they have been brought up all wrong, a pit should be a people dog, somehow pits (most of them) just seem to understand that we are human and they are dogs, and it takes an idiot or an a__hole to make them insecure in their territory and paranoid enough to show aggression to strange people.
a pit does not need to be made "mean" the instincts are there and more powerful than any "training" you could give them. a good dog responds to his masters attitude, if you feel threatened so does he, if you are calm and at ease then the dog is too. the pits that have NOT been socialized or in most cases even let outside the house are an accident waiting to happen, if you can't "heel" your pit on a walk through the neighborhood you dont deserve to have him or any other dog for that matter. pits have a high drive and should be owned only by RESPONSIBLE, EDUCATED dog people, I mean they dont just let any idiot own a fully automatic assault rifle do they?

FACT back when fighting pits was legal (pre 1974 I believe here in TX) quite a few champion fighter pitbulls were stolen, now that right there tells you about the nature of the APBT, in fact these dogs were handled repeatedly before, during, and after a real "scratch and turn" match often by strangers (medical treatment IV's etc) so a dog that was a people biter was CULLED immediatley upon display of that trait.
anyone who keeps pits without knowing what the dog is all about and keeping them together ESPECIALLY after they have fought is asking for trouble or at least a dead dog, I hope you own a "break stick" if you own pits and do not know what a break stick is I am wasting my time because you obviously aint done yer homework!

[OmaPlata]

So, you got dogs as weapons. That shit ain't cool at all.

-Security yes. You think I want a hotdog or a poodle protecting my empire? I guarentee my dogs live, eat, and sleep better than 80% of the world.

[OmaPlata]

-Well if you actually ever owned 2 pitbulls, as I do now, you would know that "break stick" is a joke and will do nothing to seperate them, ESPECIALLY if Im the only one breaking them up. Maybe if there was 2 people to break them apart, the stick might work, but I dont see how when the dogs are completely hell bent for biting the other one. I just grab the back legs of one of them and drag it into the house or outside, anywhere to get a door between them. If I had another person helping, they could grab the others back legs and just pull them away from each other. Using a stick LOL I would love to see that, good luck.
But the other stuuf you mention for the most part is true, except they are the great guard dogs, they will maul an intruded without question. And their reputation itself scares enough to keep people away.

[GonzoStyles]

Oma I aint gonna turn this into a pitboard, so I wont reply to this on these forums, but your right a pit as a housedog is good protection, all i was saying you gotta be a good dogman to raise em that way. And it sounds like your doing it right if you keep 2 together for any length and they behave most of the time, what I should have just said is dogs act differently when no people are around .
As for breaking sticks I have seen em used plenty by a long time freind who had a small keep of some good Heinzel x Boudreaux, btw they WERE NOT used for fighting but he had some damn good catch dogs for wildhogs! he is the guy who schooled me in pits as he had family that was DEEP in the game.
by the way, what bloodlines are your dogs? I am assuming you got a male and a female if they are kept together? how old?
hey if you could, reply to this out of forums (pm) like I said I dont want to use up this space for dog talk
these dogs are much feared but little understood by the general population thanks to the media focusing on the attacks. heres a lady who is working to show the truth about the breed as well as its potential.

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