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  • #31
    wuss-status shall be lifted when and only when I say so...ok im just kidding. Naw man just stick with it dude and everything will come with time. You seem to be doing well already and you got the formula down since you train on the mat and solidify what you learned with some reading from the book. About that grappling dummy people are better off getting a blow up doll. At least then it will serve two purposes. Just remember guys to by the ones with extra thick rubber so it doesn't pop when you go in with a triangle.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by adacas
      About that grappling dummy people are better off getting a blow up doll. At least then it will serve two purposes.
      Sick, just sick.

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      • #33
        If you're going to train outside of the gym, I'd do it with some experienced fighters. There are alot of guys that are not at a gym who have experience and train on their own.

        I run into amateur and ex-pro fighters now and then and we train. Whenver you see a person wearing a Fairtex shirt or shadow boxing at the park, talk to them. See if their up for training, sparring or running.

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        • #34
          Training BJJ at home

          Hey Hometrainer!

          Sure there are ways to engrave some motor learning of BJJ skills at home to better prepare yourself for class.

          Have you thought about investing in a Bubba Grappling dummy? Coupled with a good BJJ book, you can practice throws, takedowns, mount attacks, guard attacks, passing guard, full throttle armlocks etc to develop and finetune your skill.

          Just like the heavy bag aids a kickboxer, a bubba dummy aids a grappler.

          This is no replacement for good old mat time. You need to "go to war", but war time should only come after you've developed the tools. Too many people get caught up in "let's roll , roll, roll" and they basically have no skill. Skill comes from diligent practice, slow, accurate practice.

          Check out http://www.bubbadummy.com

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          • #35
            The most effective MA training, in order of preference and effectiveness, is:
            1. Sparring/training with an actual opponent guided by an instructor
            2. Sparring/training with an actual opponent
            3. Solo practice at home with book and DVD
            4. Solo practice at home without book and DVD
            5. General exercise without MA focus
            6. Doing nothing

            Is this list correct?

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            • #36
              I hope after 4 years the guy either learned something or found a school.

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              • #37
                I think it was a very obvious troll attempt. Seems like he just conveniently laid out all his bad traits in alphabetical order.

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                • #38
                  He got three pages four years ago. Now the thread is something else...

                  It's entertaining to think the guy was trolling but maybe he's really THAT lame? Lots of kids come try out the randori... a few stick around long enough to pick up a few tricks or develop their skill (timing and sensitivity) but MOST that play don't play for long. Lets face it, it's a tough sport. I think training is more intense than competition in most cases but until you get past intensity and start to RELAX in the heat of randori... Well, you wear yourself out!


                  I think books are a good supplement to training. It's worth next to nothing on it's own but with it you can check the detail and competency of the instruction you are getting.

                  I learned a good deal about BJJ with this very book.

                  It still looks like Judo to me!

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                  • #39
                    Close enough...

                    Originally posted by nathan rd View Post
                    The most effective MA training, in order of preference and effectiveness, is:
                    1. Sparring/training with an actual opponent guided by an instructor
                    2. Sparring/training with an actual opponent
                    3. Solo practice at home with book and DVD
                    4. Solo practice at home without book and DVD
                    5. General exercise without MA focus
                    6. Doing nothing

                    Is this list correct?

                    EF has a good point. I can't deney the learning curve tends to favor reality.

                    BEING in potentially deadly situations is viewed as a BAD thing. Putting yourself in BAD situations is just stupid but you might be surprised by the results of experience actually fighting.

                    It puts the game (martial arts) in perspective.

                    It's easy to tell the guys WITH training from the guys without but I don't see much value in training dummies.

                    There is (really) no other way to know what you can do at gunpoint until you DO IT at gunpoint. Ya know?

                    Training is good. Good training is priceless.

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                    • #40
                      Hey HomeTrainer.

                      A tip from my own experience:

                      Start off rolling with the smallest white belt, making sure you get on top of them to develop your top control game.
                      When you are able to beat them regularly from the top position then focus on your guard game - work on just holding them postured down at first - making sure they cannot posture up or open your guard, before moving onto sweeps then subs.
                      Focus on different positions both from the top and bottom.

                      As you get more proficient with the moves, start trying the same moves on gradually bigger guys. Eventually you will be able to roll with guys bigger than you.

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                      • #41
                        I would like to point out that getting beat by grapplers is a lot less worse than getting beat by strikers. In grappling (unless youre training with idiots) they will let you go when you tap, so your not really getting hurt. Getting beat by a Mauy Thai or Karate guy could result in bruises, cuts or even broken bones. Think about this when you say that the grappling is to hard.

                        Please go back to the BJJ and train!!! do yourself the favour by facing your fears.

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