Thai Kick defense

[JAB]

Ghost,
Thanks for your input. I am not sure of you, but I am not knowledgable enough to call Master Chai's list of techinques "poor... and badly thought out."
I could not remember because instead of writing them down right away I was training. He just mentioned them, we did not cover all of them.
Thanks though. Your categorization is basically the same as Chai's just not as technique dependent.
Cheers
Jake

[Ghost]

thats a pretty poor list imo. Its very random and badly thought out.
all the spinning stuff remove and just keep in the back of your head to be aware of especially the back kick, how on earth you can back kick faster than or as fast as or even anywhere as close to the speed of a roundhouse is nonsense.

Defense, imo, should be broken into 4 basic areas. Which is far easier to work with than trying to remember a 12 point list, which you have shown you cant.

1)Hard defense(where you use the body like a shield)

2)Soft defense(where you parry or redirect or move to reduce impact)

3)Avoiding Defense(where you dont make contact at all)

4)Attacking defense(where you use a strike to nullify the opponents attack)

very loosely:

1)Hard defense. Crushes (this is an attacking version of the shin block that actively digs into the opponents kicking shin with a downwards tip of the blocking leg at point of impact.) Shin blocks, spiking with the elbows.

2)Soft defense. catching the kick with all the various counters that come with it.

3)Avoiding defense. Totally avoiding the kick and all the counters that go with that.

4)Attacking defense. Striking as a defense, includes cutting out the opponents supporting leg, teep to that leg, body etc

You can then use this seem categorization for the rest of the body as well.

Punching

Hard defense, spiking, covers
Soft defense, parrying
avoiding defense, bob slip weave laybacks etc
attacking defense, such as countering hook for hook when you know they have a sloppy right hand guard etc.

and so on. This way you build up a far clearer image of what you are working in. The mind works by categorizing things. so take advantage of this.

Hard defense is what beginners largely work on, because it is easy to perform and safe.
You then quickly move onto soft defense and then the others at a later stage.
Thats how i teach it anyway. its a simple method to add structure and you know where you are with what you are doing.

Its hard to guess exactly what might or might not have been on that 12 point list.
Id simply drop the list.

[JAB]

Greetings all-
My name is Jake and I am new to this forum!
I had the wonderful opportunity over the weekend to train with Chai Sirisuite here in Seattle, WA. and what can I say other than WOW!!! Great time! I have never had so much fun covering "basics" (remember all "basic" means is that it works!).
Chai quickly went over 12 basic defenses against the round kick, and I am pretty sure I am missing a couple (perhaps I screwed up several). Can I get some help?

- Avoid (step back)
- Leg / Shin block
- Teep to the body
- Cut kick to the base leg
- Round knee to attackers kicking thigh
- Rear teep to opponents base leg
- Step off line (out of apex of kick) and catch the leg
- Spinning elbow
- Spinning back kick
- Step into kick and cross to the face
- Drop spinning leg sweep


What am I missing?
Also, I was thoroughly impressed with Chai's speed and mitt work (especially since he is in his mid 50's and nearly crippled!!!!). Does he have any videos for mitt work / Thai pad work? Any suggestions for good training vids on such a subject?

Thanks so much everyone!
Cheers
Jake