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  • #16
    Originally posted by george stando View Post
    Not quite. Its going to be a long, long, long time before he is on the track. Likewise i saw the amateur fights and there is no chaiya or chaiya structure in any of them which circles back to what the hell is he selling and teaching??????? When it comes to fighting, he never fought nor produced any fighters of note in any major event showing chaiya skill. Its about 25 years into his teaching career and now he has some amateur fighters. Does that mean the secret of chiaya will take me 25 years to get to a level of amateur fighter????????????????? He writes his own history of grappling which is bull....he creates his own krabi krabong system which is bull......thinks he has secrets which is bull......In thai circles, he is still brainwashing and pushing his cultish plans, he just quieted down a bit. We still have yet to see the other 300-0 chaiya fighter enter a MAJOR event and fight a MAJOR fighter of similar caliber and win. When i see that with CHAIYA structure and mae mai/look mai IN TACT I will become a believer....BUT it will never happen because its all nonsense...Dont believe the hype, your eyes are deceiving you.
    I've not followed international posts by Kru Preang clan, so I may not be up to date, but on Thai fighting board, I see absence of such posts. Like you, I feel that he has created a cult of followers who would just believe in dreams instead of reality.

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    • #17
      Its not only the praeng clan as you can see from this board the foolishness continues with the wanarat clan and mostly on youtube with lek clan which is where the 300-0 claims originated. So its continuous and continual. Its mostly taken as a joke in the US by now and nobody would really believe any of the stuff anyway at least those with a working brain.

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      • #18
        hi

        I also think things have gotten way out of hand. They are trying to sell the system way too hard or something.




        If the chaiya guy fought in Lumpini then theres a record of time and opponent. I imagine in their promotional vids, they would show that fight because that would end the speculation and show it how it went down.









        I mean whats the big deal, there is a fight card every night of the damn week in thailand. If you want to fight, you can find a fight anyday of the week with a quality opponent especially if you say muay thai sucks!

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        • #19
          a friend just returned from thailand---boy oh boy---he had alot to tell me........the chaiya guys are still at it best thing is they must read these forums because they mention stuff said.......so any reports saying they are not up to their old tricks are not accurate or true!!

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          • #20
            Anytime a post from the propaganda party appears on this forum, I will up this thread as a reminder of all that has transpired before, so people understand the history and see the attitude and intent brought here by these "people from another planet". The unhealthy negativity they bring to martial arts.

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            • #21
              Good idea! The cultists must not be forgotten. All of their efforts have taught us so much... about what not to do. This thread should be posted permanently at the top of every forum on this site. Thanx george.

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              • #22
                This thread becomes more and more real. The more we get the chaiya attacks, commercials and propaganda the more they prove the words here. They refuse to hear but the truth rings:

                "The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear" Herbert Sebastien Agar

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                • #23
                  the chaiya guys just really ruin this forum. Its such a cool, really educational place so many cool people and they just keep putting up adverts they dont want to contribute or be positive--they feel they are above it all, so sad

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                  • #24
                    I dont think they ruin the forum but i think they are certainly their own worst enemy. I dont think they understand truly the damage they are doing to themselves and their teacher and system by displaying a constant lack of understanding. We are all hip to cross promotion and selling propaganda, its been going on for a long time. Some testimonial from one person is not going to change that or reverse the damage they have been doing for years.

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                    • #25
                      Just wanted to express my thanks to george stando for starting this thread, can't believe I never investigated it until now. Herman Suwanda, of all people, told me personally that being an honest martial artist is not the way to riches. Nobody wants to train with the #2 guy in any art. I guess we have been pretty lucky...lol

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                      • #26
                        Hi chalambok! I agree with you brother and so do many of us on here. Theres alot of good honesty and some damn good people expressing themselves and saving us alot of time in the process! some of the threads people put up here have been really something to say the least and its all just grandstanding

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                        • #27
                          The cup of grape kool aid of course extends to the recent pahuyuth and marco de cesarsis nut hugger threads. We are not stupid europeans or americans, actually each thread wants to "show us" what we dont understand but in the end its just the opposite. WE are not STUPID especially when it comes to fighting!

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                          • #28
                            Well put george

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                            • #29
                              Wanarat has returned --the grape kool aid has gotten him crazy now with krabikabong!

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                              • #30
                                Yeah Now crazy with daab!lol.

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