Bouncers-tips,tricks And Mistakes To Avoid

[HERQ454]

I'm starting this thread in the hope that any who have past or present experience in the field might like to contribute any knowledge or experience or even give embarrising stories so that others in the field can learn from them.I myself have been doing the job for over a year and a half and know the crap we have to deal with.Would appreciate this not being an ego boosting post-fest but a genuine,honest thread with some funny stories thrown in.Any lessons especially those learnt the 'hard way',would be very welcomed.

[kwai chang pain]

I know nothing about bouncing, but I keep hearing that Geoff Thompson does. He's written several books on being a doorman, self-defense, etc.
I just started reading one about fear. Hope that helps ya.

[gregimotis]

I found two guys on the floor at a club a worked. The guy on top seemed to be doing all the fighting, so I grabbed him and put a light rear-naked choke on. The other guy got up and walked calmly away while this guy stayed angry, so I figured I had the right man....

Turns out I had opne of the bartenders and the other guy was 'calmly' walking off to get back in our 120lb female general managers face... Not my best day on the job.

[JkD187]

Geoff Thompson and Marc "Animal" Macyoung have some very good reads.

[Garland]

Mac Young's concepts when it comes to actual application are really...well...I personally don't like them. Some of his ideas on the psychology of a thug are probably more on the mark than most...but if you're trying to implement his combat methods...you might as well curl into a fucking ball.

[JkD187]

Mac Young's concepts when it comes to actual application are really...well...I personally don't like them. Some of his ideas on the psychology of a thug are probably more on the mark than most...but if you're trying to implement his combat methods...you might as well curl into a fucking ball.

Thats funny because i thought the same thing....i was reading his book "A Professionals Guide To Ending Violence Quickly" and i thought it was awesome....but when i looked at his crude stick figure drawings of techniques i was like WTF is this...i remember one technique i usted to do when i was elementary school where you put your leg behind him and then push him so he falls over...i couldnt stop laughing.

[BoarSpear]

http://nationallampoon.com/nl/08_features/bouncers/bouncers.asp

[HERQ454]

Some tips

If your working in the business soon,here some tips.Keep an eye on the guys your working with and make sure they keep an eye on you.Its happened a couple of times where I trying to break up a fight of three or four guys and my "work buddy" is busy chatting up some blonde bimbo.Thanks mate.If you notice one of the guys is trying to talk someone out and the patrons resisting,stand behind your partner and give the empression of numbers.One on one the "patrons" like to puff out the chest and give the impression of wanting to have a go.2 on 1 or 3 on 1 changes that impression most of the time,not always,but most of the time.Better to keep it at the verbal stage than go physical.

[Tom Yum]

[*]Don't date regulars.

.......that rule gets broken all the time.

[Tom Yum]

True enough. But it's almost always an unhappy ending waiting to happen.

There can only be one kind of "happy ending"...

[Tom Yum]

I'll drink to that!

[budo]

i've worked in Clubs for about 3 years now doing various jobs,

Some weekends there's heps of dickheads and fights going off all over the place, other weekends there will be just one of two, even none at all (if the stars are aligned correctly and the tide is falling i cant explain it anyother way)

But once a fight starts people generally want to be involved, once a fight is out and some one can say, "i didnt start it" they assume it's ok to jump in

Patrons will fight each other, they drink and become stupid. I have found that the best ways to manage fights are:

1) Get in early and throw the offenders out, all of them, dont let them argue in a noisy club as a UN council of their mates, spouses, standers by, etc will come up to try and tell you what happend and who's fault it was, usually a fight will restart from this "UN summit"

2) Have a few guys hang back, they don't need to be guards bartenders or glassies work just fine provided they are sensible and can handel themselves, these people will make sure that you don't get king hit or bottled from behind this hurts....usually quite a lot, I've known lots of guards who have gone down because they didnt have anyone watching their back.

3) Hang around, after the offenders have been thrown out, lots of guards will charge outside to give the offenders a well deserved kicking, however there may have been people involved who you missed, or another fight may start because people's blood is up, if this happens and the guards are out side haveing a grand old time, things can escalate really fast.

dont date the regulars, they are usually people with "day jobs" and "weekends" and you likely to belt the first guy you see trying to chat them up, however finding a partner within the hospitality industry is a better idea as they work similar hours to you and as such you can go out with them, rather than watch them go out.

[budo]

ummmm....

"look i've finished my drink"
or they may be bored, i dont really see it all that oftern but i'll ask around

[budo]

seen people tip out someone elses drink as a challangen, but never the "green light" signals your talking about, i'll ask the old hands about it tonight though

[BoarSpear]

Just curious. I'd heard it meant an invitation to fight.

It definatly gets their military in a fighting mood (in my experience ) ...It might just be an S.F tradition Mike or perhaps "F The Queen" Aint the insult it USED to be. LOL