Best Legal Weapon to carry

[DickHardman]

Daggers are made as offensive weapons to use on unsuspecting victims, they're acceptable for sentry removal but have been proven to be poor defensive weapons. The Sykes/Fairbairn dagger was replaced because it broke and due to the fact it was nearly useless as a slashing weapon. The replacement A/F dagger had a Moran edge which made it a terrifying slashing tool, this edge was specifically added because daggers proved to lack the ability to inflict slashes which were deemed necessary when both parties knew it was fight. Keep in mind this tool was made for Commandos who had higher than average abilities to fight, if they couldn't defend themselves properly with a dagger it's rather doubtful the average martial artist can.

you saying you wouldnt be able to use that thing to defend yourself against some crackhead trying to put you in a headlock in the mcdonalds drive through? if all you had was that urban dart, and lets say some some drunk school teacher tried to put you in WWF moves while you were trying to get to your car after you just got eating at Dennys, you dont think that weapon would be capable of stopping someone? especially in the hands of a trained martial artist?? its not the greatest weapon ever designed, but its far from being useless or poor for self defense. at least not inmop.

[Tant01]

Dick...You should get legal advise on the use of force... None of those situations would justify using a deadly weapon.

[TTEscrima]

you saying you wouldnt be able to use that thing to defend yourself against some crackhead trying to put you in a headlock in the mcdonalds drive through? if all you had was that urban dart, and lets say some some drunk school teacher tried to put you in WWF moves while you were trying to get to your car after you just got eating at Dennys, you dont think that weapon would be capable of stopping someone? especially in the hands of a trained martial artist?? its not the greatest weapon ever designed, but its far from being useless or poor for self defense. at least not inmop.

I'm saying it's unlikely you're going to do enough damage to stop the attacker without killing them, neither of the scenarios you listed should require a trained martial artist to kill the attacker. Being covered in a crackheads blood over a headlock in a drive through and killing a school teacher in a Denny's parking lot both sound like the actions of a freaked out gear geek unable to think under stress. Perhaps you should stop letting crackheads in your car, without a brain weapons are a liability not an asset.

[DickHardman]

Dick...You should get legal advise on the use of force... None of those situations would justify using a deadly weapon.

what if the crackhead was high on pcp and you couldnt get out of his headlock and feared your life was in danger?? what if he was biting your face and neck too?? im sure that urban dart would release his hold on your neck real quick.

what if that disgruntled, drunk, school teacher beats you up and is preparing to give you Triple H's pedigree on to the hood of his own car or windshield??? you realize there is a possibility that your face could be crushed and cut up, and your neck could be broken by the WWF move. what then??? before he can lift you, if you deploy that urban shank, im sure it would stop his drunken attempt at doing the WWF move he saw at home on you and permanently injuring you.

[Tant01]

Good luck trying to convince a jury that your actions were reasonable...

[DickHardman]

Good luck trying to convince a jury that your actions were reasonable...

id take me chance with the jury over getting pile driven into the hood of a car, or letting some crackhead whos intentions are unknown to me overpower me so he can do whatever it is he is trying on me. plus, prison wont be bad as long as its not a real hardcore one. as long as i dont have to hang out with tossed salad man, it wont be too bad. in fact, i could use a vacation. i wouldnt mind just getting to spend a few months, or even a year or two just hanging out and playing cards, lifting weights, watching TV, smoking weed, eating good food, .......i mean its really no different than what i do normally except that i wont have to pay any rent, worry about what to wear, wont have to pay for gas or drive around in traffic, or go to work in construction every morning.

[TTEscrima]

before he can lift you, if you deploy that urban shank, im sure it would stop his drunken attempt at doing the WWF move he saw at home on you and permanently injuring you.

Too much TV, stabbing someone bent on picking you up and slamming you won't stop you from getting slammed, except on TV.

[DickHardman]

Too much TV, stabbing someone bent on picking you up and slamming you won't stop you from getting slammed, except on TV.

are you serious?? are you in denial or something? if some dude was about to pile drive me in to the hood of a car and i deployed the urban dart and turn him into a human popsicle stick, you dont think he is going to release his hold??? you are so confident of this that you claim its a rarity that can only be reproduced on TV???

[TTEscrima]

are you serious?? are you in denial or something? if some dude was about to pile drive me in to the hood of a car and i deployed the urban dart and turn him into a human popsicle stick, you dont think he is going to release his hold??? you are so confident of this that you claim its a rarity that can only be reproduced on TV???

Yeah, I'm dead serious, people continue to function after being shot, blown up, stabbed with swords and hit by cars, you obviously base your expectations on TV as opposed to experience. Talk to any emergency room staff or combat vet and they'll tell you people can and do continue to fight after receiving astounding injuries even injuries that they died of later. Most likely the person won't even know you stabbed them until after they slam you through your windshield.

[DickHardman]

Yeah, I'm dead serious, people continue to function after being shot, blown up, stabbed with swords and hit by cars, you obviously base your expectations on TV as opposed to experience. Talk to any emergency room staff or combat vet and they'll tell you people can and do continue to fight after receiving astounding injuries even injuries that they died of later. Most likely the person won't even know you stabbed them until after they slam you through your windshield.

oh well then we shouldnt carry any weapons at all, since they are completely ineffective against humans beings. cops may as well throw their weapons away too since people have been known to survive and function after being stabbed, shot, blown up, etc....

[TTEscrima]

oh well then we shouldnt carry any weapons at all, since they are completely ineffective against humans beings. cops may as well throw their weapons away too since people have been known to survive and function after being stabbed, shot, blown up, etc....

Do you just like to be obstinate or are you really this dense? A slam will take less than a second to execute, even a stab to the heart won't stop someone in that time frame. Tools have places and uses, understanding these is essential to their proper use, without the proper training you're in more danger from carrying it than without, your false sense of security and lack of understanding will get you killed.

[DickHardman]

Do you just like to be obstinate or are you really this dense? A slam will take less than a second to execute, even a stab to the heart won't stop someone in that time frame. Tools have places and uses, understanding these is essential to their proper use, without the proper training you're in more danger from carrying it than without, your false sense of security and lack of understanding will get you killed.

most guys instinctively try to cover their genitals if you even pretend like your going to hit them or grab them in that spot, and you still want to act like shoving a 5 inch spike straight into someones sack has absolutely no chance of getting them to let go of you, or distract them enough to escape a life altering/fatal injury???? i dont buy that. you sound like one of those self defense dudes who buys into his own crap so much that he believes no attacker can be beaten or no self defense situation can be overcome unless a very strict protocol, the one he adheres to/advocates, is followed by everyone.

[TTEscrima]

most guys instinctively try to cover their genitals if you even pretend like your going to hit them or grab them in that spot, and you still want to act like shoving a 5 inch spike straight into someones sack has absolutely no chance of getting them to let go of you, or distract them enough to escape a life altering/fatal injury????

Now I understand, you plan on bluffing your way through the fight like you do your posting. Being full of shit all the time might be comforting to you and amusing to the rest of us but it won't pass for self defense on the street or in court.

[DickHardman]

Now I understand, you plan on bluffing your way through the fight like you do your posting. Being full of shit all the time might be comforting to you and amusing to the rest of us but it won't pass for self defense on the street or in court.

id rather stab someone trying to harm me and go to court much more than id prefer taking Triple H's pedigree on top of a car in a Dennys parking lot and going to intensive care. thats just me though, im considered to be a deviant, so do what you want.

[DickHardman]

TTEscrima...meet Dick Hardman.

yeah, im that one guy that people like to always describe as "larger than life". im just one of those unforgettable people that you can tell is a just a bit cooler than the average person right off the bat. people also usually take one look at me and think to themselves " something tells me that when that guy is around, everything going to be ok". for example, everyone agreed on another thread that if i were to be compared to movie characters, id be jeff goldblum in independence day or robert deniro in casino. im not trying to be arrogant or anything, im just one of those people and thats that.