Which grappling art should I do?

[jubaji]

The majority of posting that goes on here is MMA people making fun of the CMA's.

1) Bullshit it is, you paranoid, fairy, freak.


2) WAAAaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!


3)

[USArmyBJJ]

Oh, it's not when you play with toy guns and rubber knives and never actually do anything you pretend to do?

Come on jubaji - Even you have to admit that chasing around some unarmed guy with an airsoft gun during "practice" is pretty awesome. I'm not saying that it's useful - just that it sounds fun as hell.

[jubaji]

Go dress up in your spandex superhero costume and hop into your octagon boundary, rule enforced ring and play fight some more.

Get you hair colored all kinds or weird ass colors and get another tattoo, then spend 10 minutes rolling around with your face in another guys crotch.

The obvious issues you have with your sexual identity aside, when did he say he was an MMA fighter or that he dressed like a superhero or colored his hair? And are you opposed to tattooes now? Don't a lot of members of the military have tattooes?



Are you on drugs or something, or have you just adopted pUke's 'Imagine and Lie' technique?

[jubaji]

Play fighting is what you do in a ring when you wear 2 inches of padding on your hand and a helmet so you don't accidentally get hurt..

Oh, it's not when you play with toy guns and rubber knives and never actually do anything you pretend to do?

[TTEscrima]

The thing I've noticed that seperates the folks here is the approach to conflict in general. Be it virtual or otherwise some of us CHOOSE to escalate as opposed to de-escalate?

The CMA's teach you to move in and attack the attack, and besides,
the tone was set on this forum long ago, anyone who bothered to read it would realize that the majority of posting that goes on here is MMA people making fun of the CMA's. Usually from people who admit they've actually never bothered to even visit a CMA school... or who claim an extremely short time in a CMA school before quitting, they then question the CMA's validity.

It's funny how they all claim to be interested in MMA or BJJ yet they post in Urban Combatives or the CMA forums then wonder why their reception is frosty.

Act like a troll, pal around with a troll, get treated like a troll, because.... you're trolling. Some of these pro BJJ people haven't ever posted in the BJJ forums at all and still expect to be seen as anything but a troll. If they're actually interested in the validity of the CMA's perhaps a visit to some schools would be more beneficial than debating the validity of the movements they've seen in the movies.

[jubaji]

you won't get the point, but others will

And just ignore the fact that an 80 yr old from a 3rd world country took out a "trained" Marine because it doesn't fit your argument.

In 2008, a daschund ate one of its owner's toes while she was sleeping. I guess this means that is a very likely occurance and that dangerous breed should be greatly feared, right?

[Junka]

That's a very good gun defense article BTW

In South Africa now it's getting harder and harder to legally own one. Guess someone forgot to tell the criminals it's illegal, eh

[Junka]

I never retreat, but sometimes I fall back

[kingoftheforest]

Just so we are clear on how I feel about carrying a gun also.

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According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.)

In 83.5% of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first -- disproving the myth that having a gun available for defense wouldn't make any difference.

In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors). In 64.2% of these gun-defense cases, the police learned of the defense, which means that the media could also find out and report on them if they chose to.

In 73.4% of these gun-defense incidents, the attacker was a stranger to the intended victim. (Defenses against a family member or intimate were rare -- well under 10%.) This disproves the myth that a gun kept for defense will most likely be used against a family member or someone you love.

In over half of these gun defense incidents, the defender was facing two or more attackers -- and three or more attackers in over a quarter of these cases. (No means of defense other than a firearm -- martial arts, pepper spray, or stun guns -- gives a potential victim a decent chance of getting away uninjured when facing multiple attackers.)

In 79.7% of these gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun. A quarter of the gun defenses occured in places away from the defender's home.


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In case something was misconstrued.

[Tant01]

BTW no one should take it as an insult personally. More of my personal gripe against the mindset...

TY

[Tant01]

Lol

Hmmmmm well kinda, a meandering, wandering sort of point but a point non the less
Anyways it was a funny post.

BTW What is 'Cobb's traverse' ?

You have the whole Internet at your fingertips...

The art of retreat...See the 9th parry.

[Junka]

Like there was a point to my post?

Hmmmmm well kinda, a meandering, wandering sort of point but a point non the less
Anyways it was a funny post.

BTW What is 'Cobb's traverse' ?

[Tant01]

love a happy ending...

Stand Up against multiple opponents.

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BART holdup victim grabs knife, kills robber

PST OAKLAND -- A 23-year-old visitor from the East Coast had just gotten money from an ATM when he told his friend on a cell phone that he had a bad feeling about two men approaching him at the Fruitvale BART Station in Oakland.

His worst fears were realized when one suspect, Victor Veliz, 18, held a folding knife with a 5-inch blade to his neck and the other, Christopher Gonzalez, 18, threatened to shoot him Thursday night, authorities said.

In a blind panic, he lashed out at his attackers, grabbing the knife from one of them and punching the other as his friend listened in horror on the phone.

Without realizing it, authorities say, the man stabbed Gonzalez in the chest. Gonzalez stumbled to his family's home around the corner, collapsed into his father's arms and died.

Veliz, who is affiliated with a gang, was arrested at Gonzalez's home after police allegedly found him with the East Coast visitor's cell phone. He will be charged with murder in the death of his accomplice, along with a robbery count, prosecutors said.

The robbery victim suffered only cuts in fighting off his assailants. He ran from the station, flagged down an Oakland police officer on Fruitvale Avenue and turned over the bloody knife. His name was not released.

The man was "scared senseless" when he was attacked about 9:30 p.m. Thursday, said Allison Danzig, an Alameda County deputy district attorney. He acted in self-defense and will not be charged, she said.




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Here's something from the real world on the subject.

There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule! Sadly many times the victims are helpless, feeble or infirmed. Sometimes they can't even escape a fire.

There was a recent shooting in a retirement home on the news involving several victims and an officer wounded...

Victims are many, heros few...

[Tant01]

What?

Ok good post Tant01

Copied and understood.

Like there was a point to my post?

I'm just saying some of us take ourselves WAY too seriously?

Not saying it applies to anyone in particular?

Many here KNOW where I'm comming from but I don't expect proponents of Cobb's traverse to really understand "combat". Yes. I've been at gun point. Yes, I've been at knife point. Nothing so adventurous as your duty but no less deadly. Bullets don't really care who we are...

I'm living proof that "shit happens" and some of us live to tell about it...



That is all.

[kingoftheforest]

Stand Up against multiple opponents.

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BART holdup victim grabs knife, kills robber

PST OAKLAND -- A 23-year-old visitor from the East Coast had just gotten money from an ATM when he told his friend on a cell phone that he had a bad feeling about two men approaching him at the Fruitvale BART Station in Oakland.

His worst fears were realized when one suspect, Victor Veliz, 18, held a folding knife with a 5-inch blade to his neck and the other, Christopher Gonzalez, 18, threatened to shoot him Thursday night, authorities said.

In a blind panic, he lashed out at his attackers, grabbing the knife from one of them and punching the other as his friend listened in horror on the phone.

Without realizing it, authorities say, the man stabbed Gonzalez in the chest. Gonzalez stumbled to his family's home around the corner, collapsed into his father's arms and died.

Veliz, who is affiliated with a gang, was arrested at Gonzalez's home after police allegedly found him with the East Coast visitor's cell phone. He will be charged with murder in the death of his accomplice, along with a robbery count, prosecutors said.

The robbery victim suffered only cuts in fighting off his assailants. He ran from the station, flagged down an Oakland police officer on Fruitvale Avenue and turned over the bloody knife. His name was not released.

The man was "scared senseless" when he was attacked about 9:30 p.m. Thursday, said Allison Danzig, an Alameda County deputy district attorney. He acted in self-defense and will not be charged, she said.




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Here's something from the real world on the subject.