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[jubaji]

Very Japanese of you, it didn't work out well for them either.

What the hell does that mean?

[TTEscrima]

your firearms laws are self destructive though arent they, they dont work.

Well this is an attempt to sidetrack the debate, but what the heck.

Self destructive how?

[Tant01]

Shoot!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost
"Never see a real gun in my life and dont see any reason why i should, no one has guns here really"

Very Japanese of you, it didn't work out well for them either.

Interesting diversity here.

You know Ghost man... Things are much different here. I got my first gun when I was ten years old. Been shooting since before that. Started killing large mammals when I was 12. Now, I'm not saying killing a wild or domestic beast makes me any kind of expert on shooting but all the target practice leads to some proficiency. Marksmanship is certainly a martial skill.

I've made no secret that I can shoot well (for a half blind old fool) and the fact is I usually have two weapons within arms reach, one of them is a gun, the other a knife. And I'm one of the good guys!

The really bad guys around here have AK-47's... (I'm not kidding)

Just a little reality check for you from The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia

LOL

[jubaji]

Interesting diversity here.

Meaning you don't know what the hell he meant by that either?

[Garland]

Imagine if you will... being attacked and wishing in hindsight that had you just struck the attacker with a lethal strike you would not have to be running for your life with copious amounts of blood flowing from your favorite arteries.

Humor me for a second... *ahem*
IMAGINE if you will... culpability, avoidance, awareness (not paranoia), and adherence to the human conduct code.

Most fights you will find yourself in are going to be power plays and machismo based social rituals that can be avoided or at least prevented from escalating by swallowing your ego and skulking off to lick your psychic wounds.

The second large cateogory will be your being on the other side of that scenario, with you being the agressor or posturing, etc to egg on the fight or put the other person in a position wherein they would lose face by decling to fight.

The third category is being in the wrong place at the wrong time...which can be avoided by simply staying out of the wrong places. If you get my drift.

The last category is the miscelaneous/unlikely category, which includes real assaults, muggings, third party defense situations, and other scenarios that happen to somebody perhaps once in their lifetime if they are unlucky, and perhaps significantly more if they put themselves in situations that make them more likely.

99.999999% of altercations can be avoided. That is why most members of our society feel it unnecessary to train in anything.

If you are NOT a member of law enforcement, a bouncer, an EMT, a soldier, a prison guard, somebody that has to work around the violently unstable, or another high-risk profession...(many of which have rules about when and how you can defend yourself) then what's the rush?

Why do you think that you could have your arteries slashed? ...or is your intent for lethal force more sinister...?

Please, sir...answer my question as to WHY you NEED "lethal force" options.

[Guest]

Give it a rest Ju. His heart is in the right place.

Sorry Tant, I just don’t see it.

Those on the forum who I see as having their “heart in the right place” are those who make a positive contribution. I see members answering people’s questions, offering advice, contributing to discussions, starting threads of debate, and expressing their own point of view without the need to drag down that of others. There is sarcasm and humour along the way, and trollers are given a hard time, but mostly its in good spirits.

Take a look through a cross section of TT’s posts, there is a very clear MO. All he does is jump on other people’s posts, drag them down, twist them, misrepresent them, and try his best to make that person look a fool. He bangs on about the same things and the same people all the time (Mike B, Boar, Visine, MMA guys, blah blah), most of the time its off topic. In addition to that, we all know he skulks around neg repping people without the guts to leave his name. Sorry, what’s positive about that? Testament to this is if you check out pretty much all of the main threads he has pitched up on, they have all descended into negativity and animosity.

If that’s the kind of culture that is to be promoted, and seemingly defended, then I think I’ll join the increasing roster of members who have chosen to move on.

[Tant01]

Gun-Fu

[QUOTE=Michael Wright;309610]Sorry Tant, I just don’t see it.

Those on the forum who I see as having their “heart in the right place” are those who make a positive contribution. .....

...QUOTE]


You don't see how your crack about getting a beer could be seen as BAD ADVISE for a CCW holder?

In a gun culture where our right to bear arms is under constant scrutiny?

In the (virtual) presence of responsible gun owners and experts on the subject of personal defense?

C'mon Mr. W?

Go get yourself a beer.

[Tant01]

Meaning you don't know what the hell he meant by that either?

Lets just say that the Japanese have had strict gun control laws for a long time. It's probably safe to say many citizens of that country have never seen a gun either.

[jubaji]

Lets just say that the Japanese have had strict gun control laws for a long time. It's probably safe to say many citizens of that country have never seen a gun either.

And what then is the significance of "didn't work out well for them"?

[Tant01]

And what then is the significance of "didn't work out well for them"?

Not sure... But they still have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world.

Perhaps TTE himself will clarify now that I've quoted your post?

[Resiles]

Humor me for a second... *ahem*
IMAGINE if you will... culpability, avoidance, awareness (not paranoia), and adherence to the human conduct code.

Most fights you will find yourself in are going to be power plays and machismo based social rituals that can be avoided or at least prevented from escalating by swallowing your ego and skulking off to lick your psychic wounds.

The second large cateogory will be your being on the other side of that scenario, with you being the agressor or posturing, etc to egg on the fight or put the other person in a position wherein they would lose face by decling to fight.

The third category is being in the wrong place at the wrong time...which can be avoided by simply staying out of the wrong places. If you get my drift.

The last category is the miscelaneous/unlikely category, which includes real assaults, muggings, third party defense situations, and other scenarios that happen to somebody perhaps once in their lifetime if they are unlucky, and perhaps significantly more if they put themselves in situations that make them more likely.

99.999999% of altercations can be avoided. That is why most members of our society feel it unnecessary to train in anything.

If you are NOT a member of law enforcement, a bouncer, an EMT, a soldier, a prison guard, somebody that has to work around the violently unstable, or another high-risk profession...(many of which have rules about when and how you can defend yourself) then what's the rush?

Why do you think that you could have your arteries slashed? ...or is your intent for lethal force more sinister...?

Please, sir...answer my question as to WHY you NEED "lethal force" options.

OK, First I know we don't know each other so don't place assumptions on me. Someone looks idiotic when they do so. As someone who lives in one of the largest cities on the planet, routinely travels at night, and who realizes that no one knows what Fate has in store for them when they awake only an idiot would think they don't need some type of lethal force training.

And your comment about "Most fights you will find yourself in..." has been answered. That's another thing that looks idiotic...when people don't read your posts yet respond as if it is YOU who are stupid.

And as to the "The second large cateogory"...I won't be the aggressor. You see, you don't know me. You don't know my mind set. I've been carrying a pistol concealed for 16 years and yet I've never had to pull it on anyone who didn't deserve it. Plainly put I am typing this from a nice comfortable home in the greater Phoenix metro area and not a prison.

As for "The third category is being"...that is categoric bullshit. Tell that little catch phraze to the "victims" at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. The reason I type "victims" and not victims is because in my opinion they could have fought back instead of just laying under desks waiting to be shot. That won't/can't be me.

Next we shall address "The last category is the miscelaneous/unlikely category".. that's the one I was referring to and thinking of when I posted my questions.

I will jump to the end of your post the "Please, sir...answer my question as to WHY you NEED "lethal force" options" part. I'm not on this website to convince the "Great Garland". If you don't want to help me...then don't. It is literally that simple. But to come on here and think that you have any right to say what a person should be allowed to learn is(whether you will help or not) is more criminal than anything else. These are violent times we live in, to think I don't have more chances of being assaulted(as I have been assualted in the past) while living in the one of the largest cities in the free world is a self-destructive thought process.

I wish luck to all the posters here that were actually helpful to me. The rest of you need counseling. It's funny and pathetic you don't have something more productive in your lives.

Don't bother responding to this as I won't be reading it.
"Be seeing you"


hahahahahahahahahahah

[jubaji]

Not sure... But they still have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world.

Perhaps TTE himself will clarify now that I've quoted your post?

I think he was just hunting for some general anti-Japanese comment to make for some reason, and that was all he could squeeze out of his pea brain.

[TTEscrima]

Lets just say that the Japanese have had strict gun control laws for a long time. It's probably safe to say many citizens of that country have never seen a gun either.

Quite simple, The Japanese made a choice to ignore firearms, it ended up costing them dearly.

[jubaji]

Quite simple, The Japanese made a choice to ignore firearms.

Um, no they didn't. What nonsense is that?

http://books.google.com/books?id=DY0XiflmVIAC&pg=PA164&lpg=PA164&dq=the+Daimyo+of+Japan+rapidly+adopted+to+the+use+of+firearms&source=web&ots=87H20ttz-w&sig=l8r0ldmK1ftciZJCE6xQbpOYbww&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

Maybe someone can help hairboy with the big words.

[TTEscrima]

Those on the forum who I see as having their “heart in the right place” are those who make a positive contribution.

Direct us to those posts please. Show me a thread in the CMA forum that isn't full of people comparing it to MMA, or even one in the Urban combatives thread.

I see members answering people’s questions, offering advice, contributing to discussions, starting threads of debate, and expressing their own point of view without the need to drag down that of others.

And where is this occurring again? I can direct you to 100 posts dragging down and harassing posters in the CMA forums for every one useful posts you can produce anywhere else on the forum.

There is sarcasm and humour along the way, and trollers are given a hard time, but mostly its in good spirits.

LOL, Jubaji's 8000 plus posts consisting purely of constant harassment, his projection of gay fantasies on other posters, his misquoting people within their quotes and changing their screen names etc etc is in good spirits?

Take a look through a cross section of TT’s posts, there is a very clear MO. All he does is jump on other people’s posts, drag them down, twist them, misrepresent them, and try his best to make that person look a fool. He bangs on about the same things and the same people all the time (Mike B, Boar, Visine, MMA guys, blah blah), most of the time its off topic.

I start plenty of threads in the CMA forums and Urban combatives and they get trolled to the point it's ridiculous. The excuse that there wasn't a mod who knew enough about the CMA's was beyond lame, the trolling was evident, especially coming from someone who accepted money to train people in the CMA's and make them Sifus in arts like Wing Chun, (Mike Brewer).

Other than that, if you mean I point it out when you or Brewer gave criminal advice (advice that if followed would have resulted in murder charges, see the links to the murder trails I provided) or just plain stupid advice, yep, I'm guilty.

In addition to that, we all know he skulks around neg repping people without the guts to leave his name. Sorry, what’s positive about that?

I might not sign a neg rep that directly relates to the post I just got through quoting, and then I include quotes in the neg rep. I've never signed someones else's name to my neg reps as has happened here, nor do I leave homosexual comments as happens to me.

Testament to this is if you check out pretty much all of the main threads he has pitched up on, they have all descended into negativity and animosity.

Uh, I've got less than 700 posts, plenty of which were on topic and devoted to the arts, meanwhile Jubaji has 8000 plus harassing posts and fewer posts making a contribution than anyone on the board. Hmmm Don't see you whining about him, perhaps he doesn't mind you giving bad advice.

If that’s the kind of culture that is to be promoted, and seemingly defended, then I think I’ll join the increasing roster of members who have chosen to move on.

I wasn't posting while you and Brewer ran off everyone with your BS and one sided moderation, and pro MMA in every board policies, don't blame me for you and your buds screw ups.

I think I’ll join the increasing roster of members who have chosen to move on.

Oh and BYE BYE Mike.