Mugging in NYC

[TTEscrima]

Now that there's a darn good idea!


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I see you beat me to it, what the hell.

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[jubaji]

What I think is BS is some one who thinks wrestling a knife wielding assailant is a good idea is insane.

Do I think grabbing, high kicking, tackling or grappling a person holding a knife is a good idea. No!.

The situation dictates the best course of action in any circumstance, not what some theory-boy on the internet says you must do.

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TPF: Italian Tourist Fights Off Knife Attack On Upper East Side

[TTEscrima]

The situation dictates the best course of action in any circumstance, not what some theory-boy on the internet says you must do.

Some theory boy? That would be you boy, you know, the poser who has never been in combat or made an arrest, but wrestled in school and thus has thousands of posts mocking TCMA/RBSD posters, all the while babbling about how he wrestled and suplexed his knife wielding opponents.

You're the definition of a theory boy, you spend all your time theorizing how your sport could be used for something it isn't designed for, SD.

Meanwhile you've spent years making thousands upon thousands of inane and derogatory posts about the systems and people who practice arts designed for SD.

That makes you a pissed off little jealous theory boy who was too scared to join the military or police but talks shit about his college wrestling to make himself feel better about his dismal lonely existence.

It's amazingly Ironic YOU calling someone that has been involved in more combat in a day than you've watched on TV your entire life, that defines YOU as the theory boy in this discussion.

Sack up, grow up, STFU and stop referring to Vets discussing SD as theory boys. Show some respect for those who risked their lives to enable you the freedom to show what a piss ant you really are by disrespecting their service as you type from the safety they provided your little pussy ass.

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[IPON]

Hey Jubaji - I don't think that the articles posted are similar to the main article except for the aritcle about the fat man and the italian girl. But the issue is about defense, being a responder not initiator. I geuss I am confused why you indicate some thoery which implies there is a realiy that is being missed. IMHO, The point is, why does anyone learn MA to better defend themselves?...... It doesn't mean that people can't defend themselves if they have never fought or never been mugged. However, training (especially "good" training) can increase your odds of survival. Not trying to get in the arguement between UKE GARLAND and KOF!! but just wanted to add my 2.32 cents

[Uke]

Hey Jubaji - I don't think that the articles posted are similar to the main article except for the aritcle about the fat man and the italian girl. But the issue is about defense, being a responder not initiator. I geuss I am confused why you indicate some thoery which implies there is a realiy that is being missed. IMHO, The point is, why does anyone learn MA to better defend themselves?...... It doesn't mean that people can't defend themselves if they have never fought or never been mugged. However, training (especially "good" training) can increase your odds of survival. Not trying to get in the arguement between UKE GARLAND and KOF!! but just wanted to add my 2.32 cents

IPON, you are wasting your time. the only thing that Jubaji and Garland can do to make it seem like they have a clue is too misquote and imply things that were never written. As I said earlier, Garland can't do it, and can't fathom anyone else doing it. So it has to be theory in his mind. I know the results are very repeatable for a fact.

They keep referring to theory, but what theory have we spoken about? Garland is stupid enough to think that this article proves that the good guys get away sometimes, but it wasn't the good guy that got away! It was the bad guy that got away because he ran after seeing his two buddies stabbed repeatedly, disarmed and laid out. How is that theory? How is that luck?

Further proof of jubaji's and Garland's glaring ignorance is that knives are not known for their stopping power unless you physically make it impossible for an attacker to continue. Men have had their arms and legs sliced up, stabbed in the belly, stabbed in the chest and kept going. Physical pain can be endured, but these two idiots believe that in knife situations the first time you get cut you "instantly" fall to the ground and die. This assumption alone pins their ignorance to their chests.

Blunt force like brass knuckles, blackjacks, bricks and bats have much more stopping power. Guns and bullets even more so. Still, men have been shot and continue to come forward.

That's why this seems so unbelievable to these two clowns: They have no idea about what really happens so they take their cues from movies and books. It seems so impossible to them because all of their training hasn't prepared them to deal with anything outside of fair fist fights.

No one ever guaranteed a thing, but I know that there are intelligent and proven methods of doing something, and then there are workhorse methods of do something. RBSD has always taught men to work smarter, not harder. Working harder is and always has been the methodology of competition arts. Its how they train and what they train for. If they truly were as effective as Garland and jubaji would love to believe then how could they go on for 10-12 rounds? I can tell you that fights that include weapons don't go on for even 60 seconds unless somebody is running, in which case it ain't even a fight.

But even in the sportive aspect, the Dog Brother matches ain't going on for much longer. The first person to land cleanly usually hurts the other person bad enough to end it. But even there if you observe they go back and forth dueling. That ain't a mugging. A mugging is a gun to the small of your back or a knife to your throat or a knife in your gut.

Clowns like jubaji and Garland want people believe that we are saying that its impossible to win using sports like kickboxing or wrestling. That's their personal hangup that they've invented for the purposes of making this discussion available for their style of debating ... which is profanity and semantics. I don't speak in absolutes, but that doesn't mean that just because I know that one method was made for violence while the other seems similar because it promotes physical contact through aggression I'm going to call them the same or even close to the same thing.

If that were the case then sumo could be considered RBSD!

And then Garland would argue that we can't possibly prove that sumo couldn't work while jubaji would stand up and yell "Mayo Basho!" while writing about how he met the yokozuna in an effort to seem like he's done sumo too. If jubaji could concentrate at that moment, that is.

[jubaji]

Some theory boy?.

Yeah, like you.

That would be you boy, you know, the poser who has never been in combat or made an arrest.

Oh, so we are talking about military and law enforcement training? When did the topic shift? And, I don't think you should exclude KOTF from the discussion just because he has never been in combat.

You're the definition of a theory boy, you spend all your time theorizing how your sport could be used for something it isn't designed for, SD..

Nope, I only speak from my own actual experience and something you are not familiar with called common sense. As I recall, some of my experience made you feel all insecure for some reason because you could not claim the same. There are many reasons for a clown like you to feel inferior, but that really shouldn't be one of them.

Meanwhile you've spent years making thousands upon thousands of inane and derogatory posts about the systems and people who practice arts designed for SD. .

What systems have I denigrated?

That makes you a pissed off little jealous theory boy who was too scared to join the military or police.

So again we are talking about military and police training? Does his lack of combat experience leave KOTF out again? Maybe we need to start a new thread.

It's amazingly Ironic YOU calling someone that has been involved in more combat in a day than you've watched on TV your entire life, that defines YOU as the theory boy in this discussion. .

If you want to start a thread about fighting under fire in an actual war zone I'll be sure not to contradict you since I have not had that experience. Of course you would then try to use that as a way of talking about things and we'd inevitably disagree again.

stop referring to Vets discussing SD as theory boys. Show some respect for those who risked their lives to enable you the freedom to show what a piss ant you really are by disrespecting their service as you type from the safety they provided you.

Now this is just shameless. Trying to use "don't hate the vets!" to cover your every asinine argument is an absolute disgrace. Apparently you have no shame or self-respect, but don't besmirch good people in the process of making an ass of yourself.

[TTEscrima]

Awareness, avoidance, and intelligence are the gold standard.

Agreed, and sport arts aren't known for teaching any of those attributes. In fact if you look at the actions and statements of the MMA crowd its apparent they're alien concepts. Ask any RBSD guy the quickest way to get shot and he will tell you its to charge into a confrontation with a stranger while wearing a martial arts uniform or gear like Alex Gong did. Ask the quickest way to to limit your ability to see whats going on and he'll tell you its to go to the ground. Ask the fastest way to limit your ability to avoid trouble and it will be also going to the ground. Wearing your school shirt/no fear shirt, stupid hair cuts and tattoos all identify you, none of those are intelligent actions if SD is your goal, you might as well try wrestling multiple opponents armed with knives. Intelligence is avoiding closing the gap and grappling with potentially armed opponents instead of doing the exact opposite.

[Tant01]

Here's an idea? Lets all try to be a little more civil? It seems clear that there is a broad spectrum of views on mortality and individual capabilities. It is foolish to assume any ONE thing may be "REASONABLE" in any two situations.

[TTEscrima]

Nope, I only speak from my own actual experience and something you are not familiar with called common sense. As I recall, some of my experience made you feel all insecure for some reason because you could not claim the same.

OMFG. DUDE, your claims in the BS story you posted tied for first place in the equivalent to a hog contest for the most ridiculous claims about a fight people could find on the net, not only is it utterly hysterical, the fact you're trying to claim that it makes people insecure just demonstrates how little understanding you really have of fights much less edged weapon encounters facing multiple opponents.

As for my comments about my experience as a vet, yep JR over a 20 year career period I had too many situations to count that involved multiple armed and hostile grown men who had to be detained in combat zones or extracted from their homes or vehicles by hand. I'd say that qualifies me to speak on violence more than your activities on the mat at school with other schoolboys. Somehow you think your rolling around with school boys in spandex is something other people envy you for, it isn't.

[TTEscrima]

Here's an idea? Lets all try to be a little more civil? It seems clear that there is a broad spectrum of views on mortality and individual capabilities. It is foolish to assume any ONE thing may be "REASONABLE" in any two situations.

Well when your every post is quoted and your screename changed to include the sexual fantasies of a pervert, the standard for civility accepted by the site is rather ambiguous. Add the fact that the major violator is repeatedly allowed to flaunt the fact that he is immune to the sites rules posted everywhere. Now factor in that if someone dares to insult the resident mongrel back they're warned about the forum rules for RESPONDING to his attacks.

The Rules of this forum are as followed.

1. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS
2. Inappropriate content will not be tolerated.

Anyone want to bet I can find over a thousand violations of the first rule alone by the resident troll? Lord only knows how many of his posts fit the second rule. Yet the ONLY time anything is said is when someone gives it back to him.

[jubaji]

Further proof of jubaji's and Garland's glaring ignorance is that knives are not known for their stopping power unless you physically make it impossible for an attacker to continue. Men have had their arms and legs sliced up, stabbed in the belly, stabbed in the chest and kept going. Physical pain can be endured, but these two idiots believe that in knife situations the first time you get cut you "instantly" fall to the ground and die. This assumption alone pins their ignorance to their chests.

Of course these are just more of pUke's shameless lies. He is a no class lying sackless bag of shit and he always will be.

That's why this seems so unbelievable to these two clowns: They have no idea about what really happens so they take their cues from movies and books.

More lies from the dickless clown.

RBSD has always taught men to work smarter, not harder. Working harder is and always has been the methodology of competition arts. Its how they train and what they train for. If they truly were as effective as Garland and jubaji would love to believe then how could they go on for 10-12 rounds?

Again, your ignorance is glaring.

A mugging is a gun to the small of your back or a knife to your throat or a knife in your gut.

Oh, like in all of the examples I posted? Idiot.

I don't speak in absolutes

Fucking liar. You frequently speak in absolutes and even more frequently lie.

jubaji would stand up and yell "Mayo Basho!" while writing about how he met the yokozuna in an effort to seem like he's done sumo too.

More lies and stupid, ignorant bullshit from the pUke.

[jubaji]

over a 20 year career period I had too many situations to count that involved multiple armed and hostile grown men who had to be detained in combat .

So you want to talk about experiences in actual military combat? Why don't you start another thread for that so I can shut up about it until you try to draw illogical connections.

[Uke]

Well when your every post is quoted and your screename changed to include the sexual fantasies of a pervert, the standard for civility accepted by the site is rather ambiguous. Add the fact that the major violator is repeatedly allowed to flaunt the fact that he is immune to the sites rules posted everywhere. Now factor in that if someone dares to insult the resident mongrel back they're warned about the forum rules for RESPONDING to his attacks.

The Rules of this forum are as followed.

1. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS
2. Inappropriate content will not be tolerated.

Anyone want to bet I can find over a thousand violations of the first rule alone by the resident troll? Lord only knows how many of his posts fit the second rule. Yet the ONLY time anything is said is when someone gives it back to him.

Its hard to take that fool seriously, TTE. You know that any grown person who spends years online doing what he does has to have a really sad and pathetic life. That's no speculation either. What kind of person has time to write almost 9,000 posts of that garbage? He's to be pitied and occasionally laughed at.

We both come here to write about MA and our experiences in it. He comes here to do nothing but put on exhibition his misery and dire need for someone to engage him. He doesn't care if its good or bad attention, as long as its attention. And for some strange reason, the mods here all agree to let him do it.

Do you care? Neither do I. It does get a bit annoying when the mods shield him from retaliation, but its clear that he needs it. He probably pm's whichever mod and cries up a storm and asks for shelter. I've sure as hell never seen them act on our behalf.

So let him bark and display just how unhappy he is. Hell, I'm sure that what he goes through in his life is worth than anything we could say or do to him. I'm oddly comforted by that.

[jubaji]

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Originally Posted by pUke
you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.

Did Garland ever claim that what he practiced was tae-bo? Or is that more of your lying bullshit, you dishonest pissy little no class punk?

Still no answer to this one...

[TTEscrima]

Its hard to take that fool seriously, TTE. You know that any grown person who spends years online doing what he does has to have a really sad and pathetic life. That's no speculation either. What kind of person has time to write almost 9,000 posts of that garbage? He's to be pitied and occasionally laughed at.

We both come here to write about MA and our experiences in it. He comes here to do nothing but put on exhibition his misery and dire need for someone to engage him. He doesn't care if its good or bad attention, as long as its attention. And for some strange reason, the mods here all agree to let him do it.

Do you care? Neither do I. It does get a bit annoying when the mods shield him from retaliation, but its clear that he needs it. He probably pm's whichever mod and cries up a storm and asks for shelter. I've sure as hell never seen them act on our behalf.

So let him bark and display just how unhappy he is. Hell, I'm sure that what he goes through in his life is worth than anything we could say or do to him. I'm oddly comforted by that.

Indeed, I think just about everyone from Arieson to Brewer have pointed out what a drooling retard he is, hell it was Brewer who said no one in their right mind believed a word he posted. His posts are the laughing stock of SD forums internet wide much like Gecko 45's were.