street applicable brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

[TTEscrima]

LOL no kidding! What are YOU training for?

To impress the waitresses at Denny's in the hope by the time he's 50 he will lose his virginity, because he damn sure isn't training for SD.

[TTEscrima]

I'm not training so I can try to single-handedly take on multiple armed gang members with my bare hands like Batman, that's for sure. Then again none of us are.

Nope you're training for one lone guy the same size and weight as you who is unarmed and UNTRAINED, because thats EXACTLY what your training prepares you for.

BTW the Gracie Combatives combatives course even stresses the GJJ is about defending yourself from untrained attackers...and if you're bright enough to understand their disclaimer, it tells you learning GJJ actually decreases your chances of beating the untrained guy too.

[Sagacious Lu]

Still waiting on your answers there skippy, exactly which of your experiences and training prepare you to give all this SD advice again?

So since I am neither a soldier or a cop I'm not entitled to an opinion? That's kind of funny since the army includes BJJ training, and I've met cops who swear by BJJ. Of course, it wouldn't matter how much military and law enforcement experience I had because you're too dishonest to agree with anything that threatens your dogma, no matter how glaringly obvious it might be. Hell, even Boar admitted that WWII combatives included a lot of boxing and wrestling.

[jubaji]

I've never shot anyone.

I have been shot at... Have you?

I have not. Had a gun pointed in my face once, but no shots fired.


You have been in altercations in the street or whatever, right?

[Sagacious Lu]

BTW the Gracie Combatives combatives course even stresses the GJJ is about defending yourself from untrained attackers...and if you're bright enough to understand their disclaimer, it tells you learning GJJ actually decreases your chances of beating the untrained guy too.

I really don't give a shit what Ryron and Rener Gracies are peddling on late-night cable TV. I don't practice BJJ and even if I did I certainly wouldn't be trying to learn it from a DVD. Your attempts to judge all BJJ based on a disgraceful set of DVDs is pathetic.

[Tant01]

Yes...

I have not. Had a gun pointed in my face once, but no shots fired.


You have been in altercations in the street or whatever, right?

You could say that.

I moved away from Vancouver, Wa. back in '86 due to it's proximity to Portland, Or.

The statute of limitations has expired there...

[TTEscrima]

So since I am neither a soldier or a cop I'm not entitled to an opinion?

So you admit to giving advice on a subject that the outcome of could be death or worse, and that you have no actual experience or training to go on, you just feel you have the right to give your opinion because of second hand info.

Arguing with LEO's and soldiers who have the experience in the field is your right because you are a MMA fan eh? Well...do you watch ER? Maybe the Doctors at the local hospital need some advice from you too. Maybe if you watch cop shows you could offer legal opinions too!! Geesh there are tons of forums for you to rush off and offer advice on!!

[kingoftheforest]

Do you have trouble reading? I have told you that I have no vids to show you.

Well when you post one, then I'll care what you have to say.

[kingoftheforest]

Arguing with LEO's and soldiers who have the experience in the field is your right because you are a MMA fan eh? Well...do you watch ER? Maybe the Doctors at the local hospital need some advice from you too. Maybe if you watch cops shows you could offer legal opinions too!! Geesh there are tons of forums for you to rush off and offer advice on!!

Are you skered and confused.

CALL: 1-800-SAGSLOU for your free advice on what to do when you're in a car accident.

[jubaji]

You could say that.

I moved away from Vancouver, Wa. back in '86 due to it's proximity to Portland, Or.

The statute of limitations has expired there...

Well, I know you don't want to talk about your experiences so I'll leave it at that. But I must note that all of the folks screaming "This is REAL SD!" and the like are unwilling or unable to offer ANY actual experiences wherein their pet 'systems' they demand the world worship have been used by them effectively, or at all. All actual experiences that do not fit the demands of a given dogma are dismissed but NO OTHER EXAMPLES ARE FORTHCOMING. I would be glad to hear of such experiences, and they would not shatter my worldview as opposing views seem to threaten the worldview of certain insecure, ponytailed emo-cases.

[TTEscrima]

Are you skered and confused.

CALL: 1-800-SAGSLOU for your free advice on what to do when you're in a car accident.

Car accidents too? Did he watch Dukes of Hazzard as a kid? Or maybe he's a Nascar fan, it is another sport, and we all know he places great value on the lessons he learned watching sports from his chair.

[WildWest.]

I've met cops who swear by BJJ.

I'm a cop, I don't swear by BJJ. The types of situations we face make BJJ generally impractical. Remember, we are carrying OC spray, asps, side handle batons, tasers, glocks. I have to think of weapon retention. Getting too close to an offender and rolling on the ground with him gives him access to my weapons. Or gives his mate a chance to grab them, or club me, or stab me.

But that's not to say BJJ doesn't contribute anything to fighting and there is nothing wrong with good hard physical training....it's essential! Like everything there are limitations. I like what I've trained in, but it's not perfect and I push myself to develop/enhance new skills and constantly maintain physical conditioning.

The absolute best skill that I have learnt though is de-escalation. The best fight is the one that never happened. Your ego can be your biggest downfall.

In saying all that however, I'm enjoying the pissing contest on this thread!

[Tant01]

I'm a cop, I don't swear by BJJ. The types of situations we face make BJJ generally impractical. Remember, we are carrying OC spray, asps, side handle batons, tasers, glocks. I have to think of weapon retention. Getting too close to an offender and rolling on the ground with him gives him access to my weapons. Or gives his mate a chance to grab them, or club me, or stab me.

But that's not to say BJJ doesn't contribute anything to fighting and there is nothing wrong with good hard physical training....it's essential! Like everything there are limitations. I like what I've trained in, but it's not perfect and I push myself to develop/enhance new skills and constantly maintain physical conditioning.

The absolute best skill that I have learnt though is de-escalation. The best fight is the one that never happened. Your ego can be your biggest downfall.

In saying all that however, I'm enjoying the pissing contest on this thread!

Certainly not without some entertainment value... And Jubaji needs look no further for my personal reasons to exercise my right to remain silent...

LOL

[kingoftheforest]

Well, I know you don't want to talk about your experiences so I'll leave it at that. But I must note that all of the folks screaming "This is REAL SD!" and the like are unwilling or unable to offer ANY actual experiences wherein their pet 'systems' they demand the world worship have been used by them effectively, or at all. All actual experiences that do not fit the demands of a given dogma are dismissed but NO OTHER EXAMPLES ARE FORTHCOMING. I would be glad to hear of such experiences, and they would not shatter my worldview as opposing views seem to threaten the worldview of certain insecure, ponytailed emo-cases.

Daddy won't sit me on his lap and tell me a story.


Have you ever considered the fact that maybe people don't want to have to rehash an experience like that in their own mind again.


Maybe people don't enjoy going over how they f*cked another human being up.

Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about or asking for because your a little house sitting, ring riding, nut hugging f8cktard and you've never had to actually really honest to god hurt another human before.


I think this is closer to the truth than the shit you and SepticLou are spouting.

[Sagacious Lu]

[QUOTE]

So you admit to giving advice...

I've expressed a number of opinions.

Arguing with LEO's and soldiers who have the experience in the field

Actually I've been attacking a liar with a second grade reading level (that's you btw, I know you get confused easily) for spouting bullshit based on games with rubber knives. Attacking isn't really the right word; what I do to you is more like taunting the monkeys at the zoo. Most of the soldiers and LEOs that I've talked to see a lot of usefulness in BJJ, wrestling, boxing, MT and so on. Then again they aren't trying to sell anything so they have no reason to lie.