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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View PostGo get vetted on SOCNET.com.
Boar and TTE are, Brewer got booted for lying about his M.O.S. and violating op-sec.
Boar and TTE have also been vetted on a website run by military and LEO's.
Where dop you get vetted jubs? At the local HS alumni wrestling/story club?
Tant has also been vetted on a website for been there done that's. I'm more apt to believe what's said by people who have hard evidence of their skill and experience.
Any shithead can make up a Patric Swayze esce story about how he RoadHoused some guy after talking him into putting his knife away, but you probably got that from some anime or bad subtitled movie.
ROFLMAO. He claims he holds multiple wrestling titles but won't tell anyone who he is, nuff said.
It's Just like the Tai Chi classes he claimed to have taken from Uncle Chen (and was proven a liar since the 5 non Chinese men who were there during that time with Uncle all deny being Jubs, nor do any of them remember a wrestler including Uncle Chen) he knows if he gives out more info on his wrestling career that would be proven a lie as well.
He couldn't even explain how to execute a basic wrestling move, I had to do it, then he tried to dispute it to save face.... and he was wrong.
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Originally posted by TTExcrement View PostROFLMAO. He claims he holds multiple wrestling titles but won't tell anyone who he is, nuff said.
It's Just like the Tai Chi classes he claimed to have taken from Uncle Chen (and was proven a liar since the 5 non Chinese men who were there during that time with Uncle all deny being Jubs, nor do any of them remember a wrestler including Uncle Chen) he knows if he gives out more info on his wrestling career that would be proven a lie as well.
He couldn't even explain how to execute a basic wrestling move, I had to do it, then he tried to dispute it to save face.... and he was wrong.
Are you a politician? Do you really think that repeating lies often enough will make them true? Or do you have the mentality of a five year old and honestly think this kind of transparent 'nya-nya' bullshit dishonesty constitutes an actual argument?
You are a sad, emo joke.
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View PostGo get vetted on SOCNET.com.
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Tant has also been vetted on a website for been there done that's. I'm more apt to believe what's said by people who have hard evidence of their skill and experience.
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So much for keeping a low profile...
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Originally posted by aware View PostI am still not hearing why you all feel dissent toward BJJ in a street applicable form. I have given specific techniques that are and are not realistic in my assessment. I did mention the nature of this "fight" being against one, unarmed person. Obviously, the use of improvised weapons or any weapons change the nature of the battle for both parties.
I am looking for actual answers from anyone about what martial art they feel is street credible or have used in a real fight, not quotes or smart alec replies. WHY.....is the question I would like to have answered. This is a martial arts website in the RBMA section so I want to hear what you all have faith in, or have used.
The reality of real fighting however, is that technique matters little when it comes to actually dealing with someone who wants to have a go. What is more important is having good conflict management skills, being able to use dialogue to diffuse or escalate a situation (whatever the situation demands), the ability to know when you are being interviewed for a fight (quite often an attacker will ask you for the time or whatever before they attack) and the ability to spot the pre-fight rituals that lead up to an attack. recognizing all these things at the time will prevent you from being taken unawares.
I teach the concept of pre-emptive striking in my dojo, actually hitting an opponent before they hit you. My experience as a bouncer taught me that this is the wise thing to do when it comes facing an aggressor who is intent on attacking you.
It is extremely unwise to wait to be attacked before doing anything to defend yourself. It is very difficult to control an opponent after that, no matter how good you are and you pretty much guarantee that you are going to hurt in the process. At least if you take the initiative by hitting them first you are giving yourself the chance to escapee in the confusion.
I train for the knockout blow, which means I want to be able to drop an opponent with one punch, either knocking them out or dazing them enough so that I can run from the situation. I don't want to hanging around so I'll have to do it all again or have to deal with the law or his mates.
So BJJ, as great an art as it is, is just like any other art in that it is not very good when it comes to real world fighting. If you want my advice, learn to hit hard, hard enough to put someone down. Trying to apply techniques to someone who is putting up a strong resistance is difficult. It's hard even to strike them properly because they are moving around so much.
The pre-emptive strike is your one chance to land a really solid, effective blow to a place on your opponent that will do damage or take them out (the jaw usually). After that everything becomes spontaneous and you will most likely find yourself flailing at your attacker with your fists in a very untrained manner. I also doubt you will even have the presence of mind to apply your BJJ techniques whilst trying to defend against the barrage of blows raining down on you with your adrenaline levels going through the roof.
It takes practice to be good at street fighting and your opponent will probably have a lot more than you. At least by utilizing the element of surprise and hitting first you are giving yourself a fighting chance and you can potentially negate the need to be drawn into any further trouble.
It doesn't always work. When it doesn't, you fall back on your other techniques and hope they see you through.
I believe that if people knew the real nature of fighting then there wouldn't be so many tedious and tiresome debates like this one. Unless your art teaches awareness skills, conflict management skills, the fence technique, impact training etc. (which BJJ and most other arts don't) then it can't claim to be useful for self defense.
They are all just ARTS at the end of the day. Self defense has to be trained for separately and with different goals and mindset. Traditional training doesn't provide for these things.
I spent years training thinking my art would see me through until I started bouncing and then I got the wake-up call.
Self defense is not about styles its about what works, period. And what usually works is not usually taught in most dojos.
I could teach anyone how to defend themselves in a matter of days. It doesn't take years of training. In fact learning all those techniques could potentially go against you because you can end up with technique logjam, as happened to me when I first started bouncing.
Most martial arts have nothing to do with real self defense. There are just too many variables to contend with in a real situation, which is why I prefer to try and nip an attack in the bud before it even starts.
As for the law, it's quite open to pre-emptive striking these days, as long as it was clear you were going to be attacked. Even if it wasn't I'd still do it.
If someone gets into my face I'm not going to let them make a dick out me or allow them to drag me into a match fight or wrestling match. **** them! I'm going to stand up for myself and take control of the situation before they do.
So BJJ etc., it's all just art, useful backup if you happen to get drawn into a fight. You are better just keeping things simple.
Grapplers are so desperate to prove their art is workable in a live situation. Where does this insecurity come from? Can't you see you are missing the point? If grapplers knew anything about real fighting you wouldn't be hearing this shit all the time.
Yes, sometimes fights go to the ground but rarely, and if they do you only need to know a few basic techniques against someone who is most likely untrained anyway.
Anyway, if you think any of what I've said is valid, then you can check out my blog, were you will find articles on all the issues I've just talked about, including how to structure your training so it is better suited to self defense.
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