Kicks at the fight

[GonzoStyles]

If you say so, but I have to pick apart broad generalizations and you have made a few in this thread.

[kingoftheforest]

If you say so, but I have to pick apart broad generalizations and you have made a few in this thread.

It's good to have a hobby stick with it.

[GonzoStyles]

It's good to have a hobby stick with it.

Yes it is, I think I will work on it right now....

I imagine since it's effective it's against the "rules".

Once again a broad generalization that doesn't hold up when confronted with the "facts"

Rules are different from sport to sport MA and can change with in a sport depending.

There are competitive MA venues that do allow for the much feared-seldom seen "stomp kick", but then again you don't actually put much thought into these posts do you, it is really just a bunch of broad strokes trying to paint the same old tired picture....

[kingoftheforest]

Yes it is, I think I will work on it right now....





Once again a broad generalization that doesn't hold up when confronted with the "facts"

Rules are different from sport to sport MA and can change with in a sport depending.

There are competitive MA venues that do allow for the much feared-seldom seen "stomp kick", but then again you don't actually put much thought into these posts do you, it is really just a bunch of broad strokes trying to paint the same old tired picture....

Mybe someone should go back and work on reading comprehension and keeping things in context. We have enough people here with these problem. Come see me when you can understand these concepts.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

[GonzoStyles]

I imagine since it's effective it's against the "rules".

Once again in 9 pages of discussion I saw no mention of the "rules" concerning the legs as a target in sport MA, other than this wild ass generalization..

Could it be you are talking out of your ass?

You made a request for people to do a web search to prove your point about leg breaks in Muay Thai, well I challenge you to do the same.

Show us how these fearsome stomp kicks are restricted in sport MA rules and to what degree they are allowed, if at all.

Should be easy, OR you can keep trying to be a Dicky Clever-Trousers and come back with another lame reply.

[kingoftheforest]

Once again in 9 pages of discussion I saw no mention of the "rules" concerning the legs as a target in sport MA, other than this wild ass generalization..

Could it be you are talking out of your ass?

You made a request for people to do a web search to prove your point about leg breaks in Muay Thai, well I challenge you to do the same.

Show us how these fearsome stomp kicks are restricted in sport MA rules and to what degree they are allowed, if at all.

Should be easy, OR you can keep trying to be a Dicky Clever-Trousers and come back with another lame reply.

I was replying to a question specific to MMA, and it is against the rules in MMA. That's Mixed Martial Arts or UFC to the uneducated and inattentive.

Thanks for playing.

Dicky

[GonzoStyles]

I was replying to a question specific to MMA, and it is against the rules in MMA. That's Mixed Martial Arts or UFC to the uneducated and inattentive.

Thanks for playing.

Dicky

Ease up there Dicky the game isn't over quite yet....

You know just to keep you from retreating into some hair-splitting non-sense, you are saying exactly what is illegal in MMA?

To be sporting I would remind you that organizing bodies have different rule sets and the UFC does not in fact encompass all of MMA

[kingoftheforest]

Ease up there Dicky the game isn't over quite yet....

You know just to keep you from retreating into some hair-splitting non-sense, you are saying exactly what is illegal in MMA?

To be sporting I would remind you that organizing bodies have different rule sets and the UFC does not in fact encompass all of MMA

Err whose splitting hairs?

So your hobby is to go on the internet and find people who (you claim) make broad generalizations about things, aaannnnddd then you make broad generalizations about them based on one post.

Wow sounds like you were in the back of the line when they handed out hobbies.

I bet you spend a lot of time in the back of the line.

Hmmmm......the side kick to the leg. I wonder why nobody else is doing this especially in MMA.

Intentional destruction is not SPORTING.

I imagine since it's effective it's against the "rules".

Here what you are bunching your panties over, I think you're a little lost.



Nice flaming the thread with you bye bye now.

[GonzoStyles]

Err whose splitting hairs?

So your hobby is to go on the internet and find people who (you claim) make broad generalizations about things, aaannnnddd then you make broad generalizations about them based on one post.

Wow sounds like you were in the back of the line when they handed out hobbies.

I bet you spend a lot of time in the back of the line.

Here what you are bunching your panties over, I think you're a little lost.

Nice flaming the thread with you bye bye now.

I was replying to a question specific to MMA, and it is against the rules in MMA. That's Mixed Martial Arts or UFC to the uneducated and inattentive.

Thanks for playing.

Dicky

No it appears you are a bit confused....

1. My hobby is to call out bullshitters who make it a point to lay it on thick and heavy in the hopes no one will notice.

2. The UFC does permit sidekicks, front kicks, stomp kicks, any-kind-o' kicks to the leg, as a matter of fact there is no restriction on kicking/stomping to the legs/knees/feet at all.

The Nevada state athletic commision, a.k.a. people who wrote the rules, list 31 strikes which are considered fouls, non of which involve striking to the leg, knee or otherwise.

Rules and Regulations - Unified Rules and Other MMA Regulations



Off the top of my head I can think of two high profile fights that leg kicks were used in.



Anderson Silva kicked Thales Leites with side kicks to the knee in his title defense, although Thales did some nice kicking of his own.

YouTube - Anderson Silva V.S. Thales Leites

Brandon Vera struck Keith Jardine with a direct kick to the knee.....

YouTube - Brandon Vera Highlights



It didn't cripple him hell it didn't even stop him from winning the fight the fight he said the injury was minor......




And as a final footnote Joyce Gracie was using stomp kicks as an entry to wrap people up in the very first UFC...

Well so much for the whole "My styles leg kicking techniques are so deadly they don't even allow them in the UFC !!!!!" bullshit.

Tune in next time kids when I will explain why low round kicks are more effective and safer to use for you...

AND your victim!

[kingoftheforest]

No it appears you are a bit confused....

1. My hobby is to call out bullshitters who make it a point to lay it on thick and heavy in the hopes no one will notice.

2. The UFC does permit sidekicks, front kicks, stomp kicks, any-kind-o' kicks to the leg, as a matter of fact there is no restriction on kicking/stomping to the legs/knees/feet at all.

The Nevada state athletic commision, a.k.a. people who wrote the rules, list 31 strikes which are considered fouls, non of which involve striking to the leg, knee or otherwise.

Rules and Regulations - Unified Rules and Other MMA Regulations



Off the top of my head I can think of two high profile fights that leg kicks were used in.



Anderson Silva kicked Thales Leites with side kicks to the knee in his title defense, although Thales did some nice kicking of his own.

YouTube - Anderson Silva V.S. Thales Leites

Brandon Vera struck Keith Jardine with a direct kick to the knee.....

YouTube - Brandon Vera Highlights



It didn't cripple him hell it didn't even stop him from winning the fight the fight he said the injury was minor......




And as a final footnote Joyce Gracie was using stomp kicks as an entry to wrap people up in the very first UFC...

Well so much for the whole "My styles leg kicking techniques are so deadly they don't even allow them in the UFC !!!!!" bullshit.

Tune in next time kids when I will explain why low round kicks are more effective and safer to use for you...

AND your victim!

I stand corrected about the rules of a bullshit sport thank you for educating me.

Now go back to your friends at bullshido.

Hey Tanto why don't you chime in and explain intent to some one. You know the difference in how you apply a technique when you are actually trying to hurt someone. And how much more a kicks effectiveness can be while wearing boots.

OO and maybe the difference between leaning in on a kick and leaning away. Or just kicking someones leg as apposed to stomping it leaning in and dragging down, which btw isn't permitted in the UFC?

Shoulda read the whole thread and actually payed attention to what people mean by "kick".

[jubaji]

Come on, kingofhumiliation, you admitted you were wrong, just leave it at that. Trying to salvage your ego only makes it worse. Look at what a fool boringspear made of himself that way.

[kingoftheforest]

It's amazing that an actual conversation about real fighting and things used in self defense was going on and the MMA nut huggers turned it into an argument about the rules of the UFC.

Yes jubaji the fact that I don't know what UFC rules are makes me full of shit about any kind of non grabasstic fighting, no it doesn't.

It just proves that some people watch more TV than they actually train. No comment or opinion I have made in this thread had been wrong.

Arching the leg is a longer distance than a stomp kick, your legs structural integrity is stronger on a stomp kick. Stomp kicks when properly used can be more destructive than shin kicks even at close range.

See all the things people who don't know shit about kicks are ignoring, sorry I'm not spewing the karate rhetoric you guys have been fed since the 70's. Shit has evolved.

[kingoftheforest]

I will admitt that was a nice attempt at a save by gonzo, trying to pretend his righteous indignation over what I was saying boiled down to I was wrong about the UFC rules, apparently the only thing he has any technical knowledge of, since he has added nothing to the conversation but a rules correction for a sport in the Urban Combatives forum.

You get a silver star for effort.

[GonzoStyles]

I will admitt that was a nice attempt at a save by gonzo, trying to pretend his righteous indignation over what I was saying boiled down to I was wrong about the UFC rules, apparently the only thing he has any technical knowledge of, since he has added nothing to the conversation but a rules correction for a sport in the Urban Combatives forum.

You get a silver star for effort.

I logged in the forum, read the thread, asked you to clarify a point and then you acted like a pretentious shitbird so...........

I broke you down like the sad, ridiculous little man you are, I could go on but I have to ask myself would it make a a bit of difference to someone as fully self-deluded as you are?

I am sure that the many hours you train your super-destructive,only-for-da-streets kicks against your compliant sparring partner (aka a dead tree) make you more of an expert than anyone else regardless of experience.

kicking someones leg as apposed to stomping it leaning in and dragging down, which btw isn't permitted in the UFC

So care to show us all exactly where the deadly stomp and scrape is listed as a foul by the Nevada state athletic commision?

i.Butting with the head
ii.Eye gouging of any kind
iii.Biting
iv.Spitting at an opponent
v.Hair pulling
vi.Fish hooking
vii.Groin attacks of any kind
viii.Putting a finger into any orifice or any cut or laceration of an opponent
ix.Small joint manipulation
x.Striking downward using the point of the elbow
xi.Striking to the spine or the back of the head
xii.Kicking to the kidney with a heel
xiii.Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
xiv.Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh
xv.Grabbing the clavicle
xvi.Kicking the head of a grounded opponent
xvii.Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent
xviii.Stomping a grounded opponent
xix.Holding the fence
xx.Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent
xxi.Using abusive language in fenced ring/fighting area
xxii.Engaging in any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes injury to an opponent
xxiii.Attacking an opponent on or during the break
xxiv.Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
xxv.Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the round
xxvi.Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury
xxvii.Throwing opponent out of ring/fighting area
xxviii.Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee
xxix.Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck
xxx.Interference by the corner
xxxi.Applying any foreign substance to the hair or body to gain an advantage

[GonzoStyles]

It's amazing that an actual conversation about real fighting and things used in self defense was going on and the MMA nut huggers turned it into an argument about the rules of the UFC.

You sir were the nut hugger going on about your deadly kicks not being legal in MMA

Yes jubaji the fact that I don't know what UFC rules are makes me full of shit about any kind of non grabasstic fighting, no it doesn't.

No the fact you were pulling shit out of your ass in a weak attempt to validate a ridiculous claim makes you a turdhustler

It just proves that some people watch more TV than they actually train. No comment or opinion I have made in this thread had been wrong.

Wrong again, it just proves that people who need a pacifier in the form of a "secret" technique are paranoid, fear-addled, and crave a panacea to keep them safe from harm, even if the panacea is really just a placebo....

Arching the leg is a longer distance than a stomp kick, your legs structural integrity is stronger on a stomp kick. Stomp kicks when properly used can be more destructive than shin kicks even at close range.

Crawfishing back to your mantra I see.....

Round kicks should not be used as a stand alone technique and thrown in a combo or with a faint, they are a MUCH higher percentage technique to land, AND if thrown with bad intentions are very effective

See all the things people who don't know shit about kicks are ignoring, sorry I'm not spewing the karate rhetoric you guys have been fed since the 70's. Shit has evolved.

Yes I guess you know more about kicks then the people who make a living out of throwing them....

But once again if you actually knew your ass from a hole in the ground you would be familiar with sport MA history and how the "legend" of destructive kicks to the leg/knee were a cause for fouls being written into many sports rule sets...

and the prejudice came DIRECTLY from people mostly involved in Chinese and Japanese arts i.e. the invention of "American rules" kickboxing.

See my experience dealing with idiots like yourself goes a loooooong way back, maybe I will tell you about it someday, but since it involves actually hitting other real people I doubt you would be interested...

sport fighting has evolved but being a stupid prick has stayed pretty much consistent through-out the ages...

P.S. I am not a member of Bullshido so I guess thats another thing you are wrong about but hey whose keeping track?