victim mentality...

[EmptyneSs]

i dont understand why women always complain about going out with losers. they are the ones who choose to stay with bad guys, and they are also the ones who let them continue stepping over their bounderies repeatedly without any consequences. you arent an indentured servant or slave, you do have the right to leave the person anytime you want. women can just leave the man right then and there if they really wanted to, the very first time he did something not cool. but instead, women are internalized to believe that this is how men are supposed to be, just douchebags. so they will tolerate all the nonsense he does because they think its normal, thats how its supposed to be, "its my fault, not his". and once you let someone step over your bounderies without being put in their place, it only encourages them to do it again. and whats even worse is that you females know all this, and STILL date losers and stay with them.

[Tom Yum]

i dont understand why women always complain about going out with losers. they are the ones who choose to stay with bad guys, and they are also the ones who let them continue stepping over their bounderies repeatedly without any consequences. you arent an indentured servant or slave, you do have the right to leave the person anytime you want. women can just leave the man right then and there if they really wanted to, the very first time he did something not cool. but instead, women are internalized to believe that this is how men are supposed to be, just douchebags. so they will tolerate all the nonsense he does because they think its normal, thats how its supposed to be, "its my fault, not his". and once you let someone step over your bounderies without being put in their place, it only encourages them to do it again. and whats even worse is that you females know all this, and STILL date losers and stay with them.

You're frustrated, bro.

You've got to try and meet quality people. Perhaps it takes experience figuring this out. Are you happy with yourself at the moment? You might be able to take care of yourself, but are you really happy with who you are on the inside? Sometimes you gotta work on yourself first and then they will come. People are sometimes a reflection of what you are shining onto them.

Don't go for the girl who is drop dead Hollywood model with the died hair who rags on other girls; go for the girl next door who, who swims, does pilates, can cook a little and likes the simple things in life

These are the kinds of women who know what's important. You take care of them and they will take even better care of you.

Don't give up yet!

[EmptyneSs]

You're frustrated, bro.

You've got to try and meet quality people. Perhaps it takes experience figuring this out. Are you happy with yourself at the moment? You might be able to take care of yourself, but are you really happy with who you are on the inside? Sometimes you gotta work on yourself first and then they will come. People are sometimes a reflection of what you are shining onto them.

Don't go for the girl who is drop dead Hollywood model with the died hair who rags on other girls; go for the girl next door who, who swims, does pilates, can cook a little and likes the simple things in life

These are the kinds of women who know what's important. You take care of them and they will take even better care of you.

Don't give up yet!

why are we talking about me? im not the one getting into bad relationships and staying with people who abuse me. im just frustrated because i know that no matter how much a women complains, she wont lift a finger to make anything better for herself, she will stay with the same douchebag who will keep doing the same douchebag things to her.

and no, i do not go for those kind of girls. i dont try to go out with girls based on looks alone, i prefer people of substance and thats were the problem is. most people i encounter are all style, and no substance.....

[Tom Yum]

why are we talking about me? im not the one getting into bad relationships and staying with people who abuse me. im just frustrated because i know that no matter how much a women complains, she wont lift a finger to make anything better for herself, she will stay with the same douchebag who will keep doing the same douchebag things to her.

and no, i do not go for those kind of girls. i dont try to go out with girls based on looks alone, i prefer people of substance and thats were the problem is. most people i encounter are all style, and no substance.....

Good for you, good for you.

Sometimes people will just take what they can get and accept that as their choice. Being single scares the sh!t out of some people, because dating can be tough if you're looking to eventually get into something real. They'd rather have a predictable, known person than venture into the unknown.

[Little Apple]

I think for women who are like that (the ones who don't leave when they should) it's part a self-esteem thing, and part that they don't know anything about what to look for in a guy. If you want to help them, just talk to them like they're smart and worth something. Don't lecture, that probably won't help, just give them a good example of how they should expect to be treated. For the smart ones, it might be the boost they need to realize what's up. For the not-so-smart ones, eh, it can't hurt.

Example: My family was camping out (my step-dad being an ass, he mocked our trip, but thankfully didn't come), and my mom got to talking with this random other camper. The guy was really nice, and they ended up talking all night. Nothing else happened between them, but when my mom realized she had to keep checking to make sure he actually wanted to be talking to her for that long, she decided something was wrong. That was the start to the devorce I'd been telling her to get since I was 7.

[treelizard]

For the record, I know tons of guys who date really awful women who treat them like crap as well.

I agree with Apple--the best thing to do is keep being their friends to remind them what it feels like to be around people who respect them. Sometimes it works.

[EmptyneSs]

For the record, I know tons of guys who date really awful women who treat them like crap as well.

I agree with Apple--the best thing to do is keep being their friends to remind them what it feels like to be around people who respect them. Sometimes it works.

i wouldnt even waste my time. you either help yourself or you dont. i for sure am not gonna try to help someone who doesnt want to be helped, life is too short to deal with that bullshit. i just keep away from emotionally weak, helpless people, cause thats exactly what i dont want to be. if people want to be in shitty relationships, cool have fun. its your choice.

[GQchris]

One axiom that I really live by, as taught to me by my ex. "You can't turn a Ho into a housewife"... just remember this gents..

[treelizard]

Well, I myself am constantly making mistakes and luckily I have a handful of friends who will point it out to me and without them I wouldn't be where I am. Do we ever stop growing?

But I agree--don't help people who don't want help. Free will and all that. Doesn't mean I can't keep loving them and praying for them and hoping they will eventually be open to what they need to hear...

i wouldnt even waste my time. you either help yourself or you dont. i for sure am not gonna try to help someone who doesnt want to be helped, life is too short to deal with that bullshit. i just keep away from emotionally weak, helpless people, cause thats exactly what i dont want to be. if people want to be in shitty relationships, cool have fun. its your choice.

[Tom Yum]

One axiom that I really live by, as taught to me by my ex. "You can't turn a Ho into a housewife"... just remember this gents..

Nerds make pretty good girlfriends.

I'm talking about the one's that take care of themselves. They don't wear the most fashionable clothes since they are budget conscious.......I'd rather be impressed with what's beneath.......you know, their heart . Ontop of that, they don't try to look like someone else; they kind of just go with what they've got - natural hair color, normal clothes etc.

They are usually loyal too. A big plus for partnership. I would take the math major/star-trekkie/family guy watching/karate practicing nerd girl over the drama/popularity girl anyday.

[GQchris]

Nerds make pretty good girlfriends.

I'm talking about the one's that take care of themselves. They don't wear the most fashionable clothes since they are budget conscious.......I'd rather be impressed with what's beneath.......you know, their heart . Ontop of that, they don't try to look like someone else; they kind of just go with what they've got - natural hair color, normal clothes etc.

They are usually loyal too. A big plus for partnership. I would take the math major/star-trekkie/family guy watching/karate practicing nerd girl over the drama/popularity girl anyday.

dude, I totally agree; I've had the party girl/every dude wants to bang type girl and they are of little substance... I only recently realized what a gem the nerdy girls are, so long as she's not a cow, who cares if she wears glasses or doesn't wear the latest bebe or guess clothes...

and I agree, all that matters is what's underneath.. err, her personality

[EmptyneSs]

Nerds make pretty good girlfriends.

I'm talking about the one's that take care of themselves. They don't wear the most fashionable clothes since they are budget conscious.......I'd rather be impressed with what's beneath.......you know, their heart . Ontop of that, they don't try to look like someone else; they kind of just go with what they've got - natural hair color, normal clothes etc.

They are usually loyal too. A big plus for partnership. I would take the math major/star-trekkie/family guy watching/karate practicing nerd girl over the drama/popularity girl anyday.

yeah i agree with this. alot of nerdy type girls are pretty cute and have way more personality. id take one of them over a high maintanence chick who thinks she is way too cool anyday.

[Little Apple]

Good job boys.

[Tom Yum]

Good job boys.

I see the rolling eyes icon.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't hang around Beverly Hills 90210 types. Not good looking nor stinkeeng rich.

[Little Apple]

Ha ha, the rolling eyes is because I'm an intelegent female, and I don't care much about fassion, and though I often wear contacts I do have glasses. The "Nerdy" girls you're talking about already know the fluffy bimbos are little better than skin deap, and we think it's obvious. So when it takes guys years to figgure it out, we just sort of shake our heads, roll our eyes, and tell the boys they're doing a good job. You know, positive reinforcement for their valuable discovery. *giggle* If it feels like we're making fun of you, just remember that that's only a little bit the case, and we really do appreciate it when the good ones get a clue.