Men's Violence

[Boston]

ya know,

I do feel kind of guilty making use of my anger.....but then i think about how i would be treated if i came out here like a nice guy, said my theories about gender issues, and went away and waited for the nice replies to my arguments........

thing is, i have been on the web for years and i realize that this isnt some nice civil place where everybody holds hands and sings coombayah....this is a ruthless place where everyone (yup, everyone hides behind soemthing, a ficticious name, a fony address, and they can say anything to anyone, and they do, but i am the bad boy, cuz i didnt play nice and talk nice, like they said i should.......sorry folks, but I aint one of the men who any longer cowers just cuz a female or one of their surrogates protectors has arrived to blsame me for every ill in the history of the planet.....dont worry boarspear, i used to one of the catrated males, too, i just got a transplant, although, as we all know, replacement parts are never as good as the originals........

boarspear and treelizard are doing what men have been taught to do for ages.....protect their women, or protect all women.....an admirable task for someone so unworthy of their hormones (you guys have testoterone flowing in your veins right? but women like you anyway.....despite that shortcoming......we all know, estrogen good and testosterone bad)......

interesting thing that treelizard and boarspear are doing....they are doing the dirty work for the women of this forum.....see, one of the convenient thing about women's violence is that they often have other people do the violence for them, giving them plausible deniablility. women are weak, they dont do violence....they just get their men or their army or whatever group of men they can muster to defend their honor.......

so, men throughout history have been doing what treelizard and boarspear are doing (and i used to do the same thing), protecting the interests of women while denying their own interests in the safe knowledge that women have their back (as if)......i got more bad news for ya folks, women dont have men's backs....they (not all) refuse to even hear what your interests are if you dare tell them what you think........maybe, just maybe you will grow in the manner that you have suggested that i grow, open my ears and my cup to new ideas and new possibilities......dude, i grew up with feminism, it aint new......i found new stuff, the men's movements, but dont autmoatically agree with everything they say....much of it is over the top...its too much, but same with feminism, much of it is over the top......too much men hating being promulgated and anyone who dares not rehearse and recite the men hating ideology sufficiently is fair game for attack, the fact that i took this discussion, dialogue to the web just made me more open to attack, but like i said, i am used to being attacked by women and their surrgate men (just as i used to furiously defend the indefensible)......it is preceisly the fact that i used to so vociferously attack men who dared attack feminist dogma that I have a greater responsibility than most, to right the wrongs, despite having been taught this claptrap from aq very young age (caqn you say brainwash?)




please.......

oh, and boarspear, remember, i asked for original insults, not the same boring rehashed ones that feminists and their minions (the castrated and/or honorary females) have used for so long........

get help, i am told, get professional help......seek a shrink, seek a counselor, .........to do what, talk about my feelings.........i was talkiing about my feelings, when you told me to get a life (oh, you havent gotten to that unoriginal insult yet, dont worry, you will, if you havent yet).....now boarspear is starting to sound remarkably like my mother....get help, just dont come to me for help.....dont expect me to respond civilly, you only know how to yell and lay blame (like my mother), this is what you sound like dude........its ok for you to blame me for everything and anything, but it isnt ok for me to blame anybody for anything, cuz i am to blame for everything, i am the all powereful male.....i rule the world.....dude, if i really ruled the world, i would think you might want to speak to me a littl nicer lest i go off on you for no reason (just like they say all men do-just not women-they are perfect little angels......if we just emulated women, we men would be acceptable, is that yoru argument, spear? kind of weak aint it?

so, while treelizard and boarspear are busy defending the honor of the women of the world, their claim is that I am to blame cuz men have always oppressed women............some men have always been protecting women, while others have oppressed, but the femisnist would have you believe that no men defended or proected women throuhgout the course of history???????

and i am the bad guy cuz i didnt believe their argument (or was it just blame dressed up as arguments)........be well and thanks for the compliments (i saw at least one), I will be seeing ya tomorrow...............

[Boston]

Easy solution...rapists should be killed. There is no other crime as heinous. Murder is occasionally justified (viz-a-vie self defense, war time, etc)...nothing ever justifies a rape.

I would think murder to be more heinous than rape (but that alone should be enough for boarspear to claim i now deserve to die) since it is a little more long lasting. Hard to get over rape. having been molested myself by my teacher in school, i know how hard it can be to get over that kind of thing. regardless, i am not about to blame all men just cuz one of them molested me as a child........but i think it is a little harder to get over murder......

That is argument. That is theory with a little bit or reasononing thrown in for good measure. what counts for argument on the part of my detractors???????

The whole point that you are screaming how badly WOMEN treat men, proves you have your head up your ass...both sexes have problems, there is no perfect world. if you mistook my last post as a "hard attack" you dont know what a hard attack IS also if you think your acting like an ass, and spreading hate towards women HELPS anyone your'e a fool. You are just as bad or WORSE than the women you are crying about...How old are you? its starting to sound like you feel cheated to be born a man, are you sure that isnt the real issue?

hey drama queen, you forgot to tell me anything, all you did was mentioned a book you were reading...

you have a victims mindset jr get some professional help, apparently being raised by 2 women damaged your delicate sensibilities....Get over it! do you have ANY idea how bad it is to be a citizen in many countries around the world? the fact of race or gender be damned, it sucks there for everyone all the damn time, ONLY spoiled rotten whiney assed AMERICANS are so soft they have to INVENT misery to feel like they have it rough too

stfu and be glad you werent born in Ethiopia or some other hell on earth, instead you sit on your fat ass in an air conditioned home with a refrigerator, indoor plumbing, a big color tv, a car and of course the computer you are using now to bitch about how bad you have it.

so women are mean to you? maybe they sense youre a little wuss and need to toughen up. Or perhaps they sense the boiling hatred you have for all things female....

ooops, i guess he has some arguments after all.......

First of all pointing out foot binding, burkas and genital mutilation not to mention sacrificing VIRGINS

see, in between his insults, he actually has a point to make.....congrats.....i guess you arent so dumb after all, you thought attacking was a form of debate (i guess that means its ok to hate all men [or just criticize them all and blame them for ebeything] just cuz you are almost all attack and almost no arguments)

dont worry, circumcision of males in this country hasnt happened in decades, but dont worry, they are only cutting the foreskin of males.....no need for us to get excited........

let me see, have i ever been to pakistan? nope? I guess it could still be my fault that women are forced to wear burkas, even if i have never been there.....let me see, have i been to africa? well, i have been to egypt, so i guess i could be blamed for all the femal circumcision that occurs there. boarspear thinks i have no reason to be concerned or upset about anything until my condition is equally deplorable with those of legitimately aggreived women.

that seems fair, but the same argument, applied to women goes as follows, ladies, you dont have it so bad.......you have it much better than most of the women in the world, therefore you are not allowed to complain and therefore all your anger is automatically disregarded and can be ignored

if the women of america complain, knowing how much better they have than the rest of the world, they must be fat pork chop couch potatoes, and we can quickly ignore anything they have to say......

It's not a conspiracy theory, its historical fact.

then feel free to tell me in which history book you found those facts (feel free to use your feminist book collection as well)........if they are indeed facts, then you wont mind much sharing your sources or explaining how white men are responsible for the world's ills......if you dare to stop attacking for a minute or two and actually address the topic at hand.........

what the hell does slavery have to do with feminism? We all get fucked by the rich white man!! why do you think Dick Cheney and George Bush have that smirk all the time?

i got bad news, again, for ya.....i am not related to bush or cheney, but feminsits would have you think that bush and cheney share all their wealth with all the men of the world, which they dont, unless i didnt get my white man's check this monthy or ever (muct be because iam just a bitch, unlike you, not).........

slavery and feminism have what to do with each other? slavery is a form of opprression visited on males as well as females, so you wont expect feminsist to be very concerned with slavery, sicne trhey involve males also, although they may spend a lot of time trying to prove that slavery wasnt so bad for men and that it was horrible for women..........now the question should have been what do slavery and indentured servitude have to do with feminism?

everything

women like to pretend that they are the only ones who are indentured to some one, but actually hisotrical proof that millions upon millions of white men had their bodies controlled by white men (often) and white women sometimes too.....you dont think women held slaves or controlled the actions of indentured servants?

right?

and i am the closed minded one

and the real big hyposcrisy is as follows........big george and big dick (the pres and his vp) have women in their family who become enriched off the actions of their hubbies (or father, or husband).......sorry, dude, but laura bush has far more power and resources than any ten average men or women........

the only thing feminism has done is replace the stories of rich white men with the stories of rich white women, but what I advocate is replacing the stories of rich white men or women with the stories of the average jane or joe, the ones who really make things happen in this society or any society.......

as a famous rapper once said, take george washington and put him in the middle of valley forge all by himself agasint the bristish and he will be shot. take martin luther king as righteous as he is, and stick himn in the middle of alabama by himself, and he will be lynched.......but take this same washington and this same king, surround them with people that share the same ideas and the same dreams and then you can make that a reailty.......

what is lacking from feminism is a recongition that most men and women may not agree with their dogma of separation and blame and men are bad and women are good propaganda

and back to boarstears arguments, ooops, i means personal attacks, he doesnt make many points, mostly her is just here for the blood he smells in the water

As for discussing your posts intelligently, thats not posssible when you have a closed mind and a wide open mouth....you rant on and on, we get it you hate women, im guessing they arent real fond of you either. BTW I am a man and dont like you either....

you forgot to whine that they have ladies night, and ladies drink free, and they let 18 year old girls into clubs (but dont let them drink) but make males wait till they are 21....and girls get cheaper insurance...

any more things you hate about women punk? get it all out have a good cry, then shut the **** up, and grow up, yes the worlds unfair, but none of thats gonna kill ya, lots of things rich men do will kill you....bitch about them, get your priorities in order son.

okay i get it now, youre trying to justify why you wear high heels and a dress to the club everynight, you are just a little bitch looking for cheerleaders in your i hate women club.

if you were a man you would KNOW better than accuse anyone of spousal abuse or child molestation. You are the lowest scum ever faggot because you want the rest of us in the gutter with you, just because you were divorced and your children taken away. And now you have to pay child support till they get out of college because YOU beat YOUR wife and YOU MOLESTED YOUR CHILDREN and YOU now DRESS LIKE A WOMAN, doesnt mean the rest of us do

that’s pretty good one, perhaps I would need kids to have to pay their child support and molest them , but since I don’t have kids, I guess your just not only ignorant, but dangerous, specifically cuz you don’t mind acting despite know how ignorant you are, and you dont mind making false and/or misleading accusations, to support the cause you love.....am i not openminded enough cuz i am not willing to exaggerate or faslify a claim, or outright lie just to get somethign for me........

and i dont need you to exonerate me from shit faggot, dont put your sins on me, then say oh i can save you i am not a child molesting wife beating crossdresser like you so i dont advice from you on stayin out of trouble

dude, calm down, you can go back to beating your wife as soon as you log off and stop jacking off, eventually you will come up with some proof to back up your sentimentailty.....in the mean time, we can stick with real facts, not the made up ones the feminsist like so much......

[Boston]

i am putting ten to one odds that boarspear doesnt have the balls to read one of the six books i listed in the next three months.......three months to read a book, boarspear, and you get ten to one odds, want to take that bet?

think you can do it? anybody think he will open his mind enough to read a book critical of feminism........

personally, i have read ten or twenty books about feminsism and only one critical of it............

look up misogyny in your search engine folks....how many refererences?

look up misandry in your search engine folks....how many references?

just cuz there arent many refernces to misandry, that make it false right?...well, it does according to feminsist logic.....feminist logic works loke this, they claim that men hid their conspiracy from the world, but will never have to prove it, just say it over and over again....say a lie enough times on tv and that makes it true, right???????

isnt that how we got into iraq, repeating the same lies over and over again until everybodyu believed it.....it had to be true, it was on tv, they dont lie on tv.....hahahahahhahahah....

how do you know when bush or cheney is lying, their lips are moving.....but i never once believed their lies and i went to rallies protesting the war and its lead up, but since i am a man and being a man means having to take resposibility for the actions of every other man, while to be a woman means that you dont have to even take responsibility for your own actions, much less the actions of all women.....so i guess, you are so right, boarspear, women will never ever ever ever ever criticize male circumcision in this country, or take any blame themselves for what is often their decision, but me, i didnt have any say in whether or not women in pakistan wear or dont wear burkasd, but it is still my fault because i am a man and i happen to be white (although that may not be that obvious from where you are standing)...........

here is a radical feminist idea of equality....give women all the rights and give men all the responsbilities and as long as the responsbilities that the men have are equal in wieght to the rights of women, everything will be equal.....meanwhile the most common joke among men when they move to a new apartment or house, is that the only room in the house that you have any say in decorating is the basement or the garage..........

[Garland]

I wan't even going to join this clusterfuck of a circus you've created, Boston, until I got word that you called me a "girl".
Is that derogarory for you? Is being a girl a bad thing?
Well if you hate women, you can suck MY cock. Seriously...switch to the other team and stop bitching.

But...Boston, if I am a girl, you can suck my fucking douche...

so which is it, dick or douche?

[jubaji]

okama

being a man means having to take resposibility for the actions of every other man, while to be a woman means that you dont have to even take responsibility for your own actions, much less the actions of all women..............

Alright already, we get it! You're gay as hell and you hate women. Duly noted. Now shut the **** up

[blitz]

Some men use violence to make themselves superior. I don't know what gives them these thoughts. I mean I've never had a thought about beating a woman up, but I rarely have thoughts about beating men up too. But I make sure i treat a woman the way she deserves to be treated, lets say I've been brought up that way I mean, I've been brought up to know that a woman is passionate about her feelings unlike guys who are pretty rough at times. I think woman can learn martial arts if they really want to, but again they should only use it as a last resort just like men SHOULD use it as a last resort vs others wether its a woman or a man.

Men get in more trouble because they simply get brought up differently, I mean most girls are much more closer to their parents to a certain age, I think that makes them a little more friendly :O

I don't know why a man would be pushed to rape a woman or offend her in any physical way, I mean don't get me wrong verbal abuse is bad too but its still a little lighter, personally i wouldn't do either but some men have had bad experiences, some are just too hungry for sex?

[treelizard]

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power.

I don't know why a man would be pushed to rape a woman or offend her in any physical way, I mean don't get me wrong verbal abuse is bad too but its still a little lighter, personally i wouldn't do either but some men have had bad experiences, some are just too hungry for sex?

[Tom Yum]

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power.

Isn't sex also about power?

[Garland]

Isn't sex also about power?

reminds me of that Jane's Addiction song, Ted just admit it. "cuz sex is vio-lent"....

man, of course there is a power thing in sex. Sex can be used by both men and women, hetero or homosexual to gain power and influence, and can be used to manipulate.

also in the way our culture stigmatizes sex...even after going after it you get that guilt, whatever the hell the french call it, "little death" feeling. (i.e. you just KNOW your body wrote a check the rest of your collective ass can't catch.)

viz a vie, "hello, m'am, would you be interested in some sexual positions and emotional investments?" -Atmosphere

...shit's twisted.
Read Sascher von Masoch's "Venus in Furs"...and yes that is "masoch" as in "masochism".

Ichi the Killer kicks ass.
mwa ha ha ha ha, no sleep in dayz, fog and haze...and no, I don't blaze, because them shit don't payz.....ohhhhhhh
damn.

I'm going to bed.

[Boston]

Understanding Optional

Blame me all you want boarspear, if it makes you feel better..........It seems already that you are happiest attacking some man (protecting women) for daring to question the new status quo........

You were given opportunity to attack me and to attack my arguments........It seems that you have ataacked me quite successfully, but you are woefully inadequate at attacking my arguments...........thus, you get a B+ for the personal attack on me and a D- for your attaempt to disprove my arguments and that is generous (for someone who barely bothers to argue me wrong, but rather sees this as a chance to attack me personally in the vain hopes that you can get me to shut up..........you could try a rational argument rather than a personal atack, if you have any rational aspect to your personality........perhaps you were just watching Jerry Springer too long and thought this was a form of dialogue.......perhaps you should think about seeing a therapist or taking a class in public speaking/debate/dialogue where you could learn to discuss your feelings and thoughts without going into a uncontrolled rage..........In fact, it is my argument that that most shows encourage us to go into uncontrolled rage whenever anyone dares to question the tenets of feminism, lest anyone find out the emperess has no clothes.....

Today, we seek equality for women in the following manner.......women get all the rights and men get all the responsibilities and as long as the women rights are equal to the men's responsibilities, then everything is fair and equal..........

and its fair cuz men used to rule the world, white men specificially.......white men bought slaves from black men, but the black men are innocent......the native americans, they never ever ever ever ever fought amongst each other, they were too peace loving (and didnt practice torture on their enemies)......Basicly, all non-white people's of the world, are so peace loving and all white people are the mean, despicable, world manipulators..........Not one white male person ever suffered at the hands of a non-white person or a white male person.......and non-white people have always, throughout history, been the victims, never ever ever ever ever ever causing harm or distress to a white male person.........In other words, white men rule the world......is what your conspiracy theory states, below the surface, not far below the surface.......Now, while I agree that white males have done, possibly, more than their fair share of evil deeds, I am not prepared to blame all white men for the deeds of soem white men.........

despite your ignorance, many white men supported the civil rights movement.......but feel free to continue to blame white men for everything

despite your ignorance, many white men support the feminist movement, but feel free to continue to blame white men for everything

despite your ignorance, many white men fought and died so that slavery would be ended, but feel free to continue to blame white men for everything

despite your ignorance, many white men fought the jim crow laws of the south that prevented minorities from economic and political opportunities....... but feel free to continue to blame white men for everything.......

[blitz]

I also don't see how men gain power by raping a woman. I mean men are stronger in general, i don't see how forcing a weaker person gives them power, the only way i would gain power is by beating someone bigger/better than me >_>

[Boston]

I am presently providing counsel and support to two men who could easily be called "battered men".........not that I like that term, but the result is pretty similar............These guys, dont want their wives/girlfriends to be arrested, despite the explosive, uncontrolled rage of these women.........One guy had his wife push him down the stairs just as the police were arriving and refused to press charges against her.........Now, while I dont agree with the decision not to press charges, I have to wonder had the roles beeen reversed, would the police, having seena man push a woman down the stairs, if they wouldnt press charges themselves based upon their own witnessing of the event.....

ordinarily, men battering would be a rather laughable topic.....how could a woman hurt a man, well pushing him down the stairs works pretty good........doesnt take that much force, and booooooom.........

One couple, just having finished moving him and his girlfriend and her daughter to a new place (more room, more bedrooms, more back yard, more of everything), is sent to bed after love making and after three days of non-stop unpacking......she tells him to go to sleep, you deserve it after unpacking all these things and not sleeeping for days in a row, trying desperately to get the house in order (moving is one of the most stressful life events ever-for both genders-gender woesnt mean women, by the way-in case you didnt know)..........so he wakes up a few hours later with her on his chest, punching him in the face repeatedly, she claiming that he said "bitch" or "**** You" in his sleep.......Now dont get me wrong, I am all for punishing poeople for their dreams, for their subconscious thoughts, in fact, he deserves to die for daring to even have subconcious thoughts........so, he is getting what he deserves, he is getting his face bashed in by his girlfriend, for daring to swear in his sleep.......we dont even know if he is directing these words at her, that is not important.....what is important, is that she has the right to bloody his nose and mount and assault him in his sleep days after moving to a new house......why, cuz he has subconscious fears and motivations that sometimes come out in his dreams..........so, he says he wakes up, still groggy, with punches landing one after another, on his face, without stop. He is obviously, just waking up, cuz when he arrives at his senses, he blocks a few punches, demanding to know his crime or offense......She says he was swearing at her in his sleep and that he deserves to have his lights punched out (talking to a therapist about this is apparently out of the question)......So, he blocks and she doesnt stop.......he traps, blocks and throws her off of him, tyring to get a little air and trying to get her to come to her senses (and come to control her rage).......She immediately says she is gonna call the police and he, needing some intervention, says "go ahead, call the police", figuring he is safer with the plice around than with her around......She, decides at this point, for some strange reason, that the police are not necessary, says so, and starts to charge him (as a grappler might)........he takes her down and grapples her to the floor, pinning her with one hand so he can call 911 with his free hand, trying to get the intervention that she said she wanted, but then so quickly changed her mind about.........

Most will blame him..........even though we are told by feminists how bad it is to blame the victim.......and others will blame her.........I chose to think that they are both to blame and they are both given an opportunity to resolve these issues without violence and I am confident that not only men are capable, but women are too..........

We are both (men and women) part of the problem and we are both part of the solution (men and women).........

the enemy is extremism, polarization of the sexes, not any one of the two sexes..........jerry springer encourages us to fight like animals, not to resolve our disputes like men and women.........Oprah and her ilk encourage us to think that we are incapable of getting along or incapable of communicating....while they pretend to help us......sex sells big time, fear is another big seller.....that is all our media do is peddle to our worst fears and base desires all in the name of public service (they use our airwaves-wake up citizens).......fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear.....be afraid, that is what the major media tell us on a daily basis.....be afraid of rapists, be afraid of extreme weather (dont bother to understand it-its either too boring or too hard), be afraid of sex offenders and be afraid of muggers and be afraid of drug addicts and be afraid of homeless people (especially men), be afraid of swarthy looking men, be afraid of Muslims, be afraid of arabs (not necessarily the same thing), be afraid of asteroids and comets (they could hit the earth at any time), be afraid of environmental hazards that could kill you at any time, be afraid of tsunamis, be afraid of earthquakes, and be afraid of any and all possible hazards, just dont take the time to get to know any of the strange men in your neighborhood, cuz they are strange and they could hurt you...........of course, they could also care for you and nurture you, too, but not is you dont let them near you and not if you never let your guard down......go ahead, live in fear of the world and the men who inhabit it........fear, fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear, be afriad, be always afraid, we are told, men are not excempt, we should be afraid that somethign bad will happen to our wives and sisters and daughters, etc....isnt that why boarspear attacks me so ferociously? cuz he fears i might do soemthing to hurt women.....hasnt boarspear been taught to defend women and attack men who put women in danger (just like me and the rest of us men)......but despite boarspear's vigorous defense of women, what he doesnt know is that his staus of protector of women is tenuous at best, and that badge of honor can be lost faster than he possibly knows (or he does know) and that is why he works so hard to defned the women, lest they take away his right to not be blamed for all the evil deeds of men..........

I admit it, I am guilty, but my guilt extends not far from my person. I am guilty for my own sins and not the sins of other men. I am not guilty for the sins of men done before my birth, that would be like blaming women for adams fall from the garden of eden..........if original sin is wrong, it is wrong for men and women, not just for women..........

[Boston]

Men Stronger Than Women?????

On average,

Men are stronger than women, like men are faster than women and like men are taller than women.........

The above is a true statement.........


Lies, damned lies and statistics..........


despite the averages,

however,

some women are stronger than some men,

Some women are faster than some men

and some women are taller than some men.........


Statistics are used by feminists to mislead the public just as it used to be said that the patriarchs of old used to........mention battered husbands and everyone laughs, thinking all men stronger than all women......but men are stonger than women, so how could they be battered? easily, some women are not weak and some men are (comparatively).......and women have been taught of late to feel free to not control your rage or anger in any way shape or form, while men are told that their anger is unacceptable and illegitimate (like boarspear attacking me for daring to be unhappy with my mother or any woman in the slightest)........women (and men) the world over are refusing to talk to men or refusing to hear men because they are angry.......I am a little confused, but i forgot that anger in men had been made illegal in all 50 states and the rest of the world as well........the negative outsomes of men's anger is illegal in most jurisdictions (as it should be). Thus, angry men who do assualt, murder, etc as a result of their anger, are prosecuted and locked up, incarcerated (not rehabilitated, cuz that would be coddling-and their rescidivism is cuased by what? a lack of rehabilitation? No way! men are just evil, right?)........our society is so afraid that angry men cannot control their rage anger and discuss it in meaningful ways, that we forbid men from even appearing angry......"Your angry" is code word to men.....that nothign they have to say is valid......we dont have to listen to you.....you are just an angry animal who can be discarded, pushed aside, locked in jail and ignored............dont you know that all white men rule the world???????? Not one white man owns less than one million dollars and they are unwilling to share with the rest of us....thus, the white man conspiracy theory continues unabated......be wll, and feel free to blame me for the ills of the world if you are not too busy fearing that little green men will land and try to take over your wife's body......good luck sleeping tonight after watching the 11 oclock news fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing fear fearing

be afraid, be very afraid.......be always afraid....that's the way they want you to be, afraid.............

Of course, that is why I came to the martial arts in the first place, to get past my fears (by way of positive action) so I can live my life in peace and hopefully, spread peace the world over, for that is what makes most men happy, making the world a safer place, despite all the hype and innuendo....the misplaced statistics and the fear mongering.........I love this country, but why do we have to have 25% of the world prisoners when we have only 5% of the worlds population???????? and still, we are told daily to be afraid......fagetaboutit.....live in happiness, but be prepared for the worst and hope for the best..........

[jubaji]

hakujin no okama

Wow. You gay Klansmen sure like to write long posts!

[gregimotis]

I am presently providing counsel and support to....