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I learned it's not a skill I would use in an actual fight against a knife, that's for damn sure.Originally posted by jubaji View PostWell you sure as hell didn't learn much of it. You must have really sucked.
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Wow you're just as poor with the excuses as you are with explanations of something you're clueless on.Originally posted by jubaji View PostI understand that you don't understand. That's why I was trying to be careful for the sake of your education in the matter, but I guess some people just aren't capable of learning.
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Originally posted by jubaji View PostSay what? What did I say about that? I recall you trying to say something about keeping the shoulders back, but as I've instructed you several times now that is not correct.
You have very little grasp of the human anatomy, maybe you should refer to more than just your pencil on a table.
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Once again no substance. Just like your poor explanation of the shoot.
YouTube - wrestling, grappling, jiujitsu, bjj, mma high crotch/double leg 14 seconds, where is the head? In front of everything else.
YouTube - Double leg takedown first thing to move forward, the head.
YouTube - Double Leg Takedown before he even moves his head is in front of everything else.
YouTube - Tito Ortiz - Double Leg Takedown and Finishes
Tito Ortiz a UFC champ says you "run right over him." No
commitment is implied there.
And here's the best one of all.
YouTube - Chuck Liddell - MMA Double-Leg Takedowns
Chuck Liddell. where is the head on this one. Why is he so worried about protecting it if it wasn't vulnerable. Not to mention this move is assanine.
You most likely won't watch these but you should jubidoo, it'll actually show how wrong you and your mightier than everyone else ego.
I await your substanceless post.
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
Every move no matter what has a basic form, to say it doesn't proves how little you actually know.
I understand that you don't understand. That's why I was trying to be careful for the sake of your education in the matter, but I guess some people just aren't capable of learning.
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
"We'll there is no real basic shoot." Which is bullshit.
and,
"There are so many it's hard to choose just one" Which is bullshit.
Both of those quotes are not my words. If you're going to bother to quote at least quote the actual words you are referring to (and in context would be nice, but I don't expect that much from the likes of you).
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
Otherwise what you are saying about the head and shoulders being back would mean you are charging into the person in a sitting position.
Say what? What did I say about that? I recall you trying to say something about keeping the shoulders back, but as I've instructed you several times now that is not correct.
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Go ahead and try and marginalize me by saying I have a pissy attitude. That's what you do.
Otherwise what you are saying about the head and shoulders being back would mean you are charging into the person in a sitting position. Try again, or just spew more shit and say
"We'll there is no real basic shoot." Which is bullshit.
and,
"There are so many it's hard to choose just one" Which is bullshit.
Just admit you have no clue what you are talking about, that's why you don't actually ever talk about anything anyway.
Wrestling was one of the first things I learned so I know your full of shit.
Every move no matter what has a basic form, to say it doesn't proves how little you actually know.
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You know, if you really wanted to learn something about wrestling it would be ok to stop feeling as if you had to defend some theoretical view of the world and leave the agenda aside for a little bit.
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View PostAnd what's even more laughable is you are still trying to defend that you can "change up" in the middle of the shoot. Anyone who has ever wrestled or seen a shoot performed could tell that shooting in has to be a committed move.
Another of your many misunderstandings is in assuming the two are mutually exclusive. This shows your complete lack of experience. That is not your fault, but this pissy attitude of yours is.
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Remember this?
Those were good times.Originally posted by jubaji View PostTo "lead" means to go first to guide and direct. If you "lead" with your head, meaning you deliberately put it out ahead of your body as the first line of penetration, you are going to get snapped down into a front headlock, shucked aside, or eat a bone-crunching crossface. The idea is to keep the head, neck, and shoulders in a vertical plane as much as possible given the dynamics of the movement and the relative position/movement of your opponent. You should also keep your hips under you as much as possible as you close, which will vary according to the kind of shot as well as the other variables mentioned above. If anything is going to 'lead' it will be the hands and the lead leg. Now' if you drop a plumb line from the shooters nose at any point along the way, will it fall flat across his chest? Given human anatomy and the dynamics of the movement in relation to the opponent's movement, probably not, but that does not mean you 'lead' with your head. This is a classic case of not understanding what you are looking at. Now, we could get into knee to shoulder position, setting up the shot, dynamic movement vs ideal form (a tough concept for you role-play types) but that should be enough to give you the basic idea IF you really want to understand.
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