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  • #91
    Originally posted by HandtoHand
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    dude look how upset i make this junior high kid on the internet. his obsession with me is his main motivation in his posts, although his obsessions with drugs an 8 year old bodybuilder and tom yum motivate him as well.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by HandtoHand
      Dude, look at how faggy and immature this misguided child is. He insists that he really isn't gay it's just his boyfriend that is. He gets enraged at the slightest suggestion that he might be gay, as a direct result of his insecurity regarding his preference towards buggery.

      He writes like a second grader and you wouldn't know he was in college unless he told you. He thinks that if he lifts weights, smokes pot, and trains in martial arts, that he won’t be a scared little boy. He shirks away from physical confrontations, yet convinces himself that he’s badass.
      thanks for reinforcing the fact that all u do is post on this forum out of anger towards me^

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Hikage
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        -Hikage

        back to the discussion at hand. in my opinion i think the whole religion thing is alot like martial arts. just like in ma, there are a bunch of people out there clinging onto their old traditions and styles, and are not willing to open their minds and accept other peoples traditions and styles. and just like ma, there is a need to change, a need to progress and be openminded, a need to realize there may be more out there, and mabye there isnt. traditional religion is just too old and rediculous to be relivant to most people these days. people need more, they need to progress and incorporate many other aspects into their lives, not just blind religion, sitting by and praying to someone or something that may or may not be there to help them out with everything.

        heres lyrics from a song i think is really awesome, take it anyway u want.


        "Heard a sermon from a creaky pulpit with no one in the nave,
        I paid a visit to the synagogue and I left there feeling blame,
        No one can tell me what to do,
        No one had the capacity to answer me,
        What the world needs now,
        Is some answers to our problems,
        We can't buy more time because our tender isn't valid,
        If your soul needs love you can get consoled by pity,
        But it looks as though faith alone won't sustain us no more,
        Watched the scientists throw up their hands conceding,
        "Progress will resolve it all",
        Saw the manufactures of earth's debris ignore another green peace call,
        No one could tell me what to do,
        No on had the ability to answer me,
        What the world needs now is some accountability,
        We can't buy more time because time won't accept our money,
        If your soul needs love you can always have my pity,
        But it looks as though faith alone won't sustain us no more...."

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        • #94
          btw i just wanted to say, that ma and religion are also alike in the fact that each persons path is different than anothers. what works for one person may not work for another. if religion works for u, great get what u can out of it, but realize it wont work for everyone.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by EmptyneSs

            (1) traditional religion is just too old and rediculous to be relivant to most people these days.

            (2) people need more, they need to progress and incorporate many other aspects into their lives, not just blind religion, sitting by and praying to someone or something that may or may not be there to help them out with everything.
            (1) Your statement is as ridiculous as your claim against traditional religion.

            (2) What else do you suggest they incorporate? I think you misunderstand prayer. I think alot of people do. Its not going to make you shoot 3-pointers if you've never dribbled a basket ball. The act itself doesn't make an entire religion, there is much more to it.

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            • #96
              how come anytime the word religion is mentioned u guys automatically think we are talkin about christianity? u guys give off the impression that christiantiy is the only real religion, the right way, and even though u can tolerate others, christianity is right and others are wrong. what about all the other people in the world who beleive in other faiths and have different beleifs? if u beleive that ur religion is the right one, u are automatically putting urself on a higher level than people of other faiths wether u like it or not, and that goes for any religion.

              h2h, all those changes u mentioned dont really affect world problems and issues. ok cool they can eat fish whenever they want. thats awesome.

              and tom, waht i was trying to say was, there are alot of people who use religion to make themselves feel better. they feel better about life thinking theres some big power above that will look after them and make everything ok. the fact is, alot times everything wont be ok, and u cant bank on something that may or may not be there to help u out. having faith is cool, but u also have to realize what u beleive in may just not exist, or may not be quite what u thought it would be. theres no person alive that knows what is or isnt out there, and until u know for sure, its all just speculation and hope.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                the fact is, alot times everything wont be ok, and u cant bank on something that may or may not be there to help u out. having faith is cool, but u also have to realize what u beleive in may just not exist, or may not be quite what u thought it would be. theres no person alive that knows what is or isnt out there, and until u know for sure, its all just speculation and hope.
                Bad things can and do happen to undeserving people. Read Job.

                Ok, suppose that the big bang theory is correct. All of the world's matter and energy was once in a compact sphere microns in diameter and then it exploded sending Hydrogen, Helium and light every where.

                This big bang would have required one heck of a power source to create enough energy to do that much work...

                who knows??

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Tom Yum
                  Bad things can and do happen to undeserving people. Read Job.

                  Ok, suppose that the big bang theory is correct. All of the world's matter and energy was once in a compact sphere microns in diameter and then it exploded sending Hydrogen, Helium and light every where.

                  This big bang would have required one heck of a power source to create enough energy to do that much work...

                  who knows??
                  anythings possible i guess. dont get me wrong, i do have my own personal beleifs and whatnot, and i personally beleive there must be something greater, but im also open to the idea that there may not be. anythings possible.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                    how come anytime the word religion is mentioned u guys automatically think we are talkin about christianity? u guys give off the impression that christiantiy is the only real religion, the right way, and even though u can tolerate others, christianity is right and others are wrong. what about all the other people in the world who beleive in other faiths and have different beleifs? if u beleive that ur religion is the right one, u are automatically putting urself on a higher level than people of other faiths wether u like it or not, and that goes for any religion.
                    As I previously stated, someone has to be right. The whole point in placing faith in a "religion" is because you do believe it is true and that you have found the "correct answer." Why would I place faith in something that I believe to be true and at the same time admit that other religions are also true, when they are in direct defiace of what I believe? Do I think these other religions are bad? No, of course not. I just think they do not have the correct answer.

                    I do not follow "religion", as you call it, for some crutch through life. I prefer to say that I have a RELATIONSHIP with the one and only God and I choose to glorify Him through my life, which is commonly harder than a life w/o God and is a tough doctrine even for most Christians to swallow.

                    and tom, waht i was trying to say was, there are alot of people who use religion to make themselves feel better. they feel better about life thinking theres some big power above that will look after them and make everything ok. the fact is, alot times everything wont be ok, and u cant bank on something that may or may not be there to help u out. having faith is cool, but u also have to realize what u beleive in may just not exist, or may not be quite what u thought it would be. theres no person alive that knows what is or isnt out there, and until u know for sure, its all just speculation and hope.
                    I'll repeat what I already wrote in a previous post on this thread. Perhaps you missed it the first time... Issue on Suffering:

                    Issue on Faith:
                    Right. The origonal step is faith. Just like Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail, when he takes that step out over the huge pit inside the cavern. It's purely faith that something will stop his fall. But when he looks back, he can see that it's been there all the time.

                    Just to reiterate, that first step is faith, when you decide that you want God in your life and accept him as Lord. From there, God will prove himself to you and you will understand it as truth.

                    FURTHERMORE:
                    You are absolutely correct. You do not know him, and therefore cannot love him.

                    John 10
                    26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

                    This is an interesting passage and requries some knowledge of the local culture. In most places around the world, shepherds follow the herds and boot the straglers into line. In Jerusalem, the shepherds actually lead the sheep, and call out to them. Unlike the hired hands who run when wolves come, the sheep trust these shepherds and will follow their voices.

                    Christians have an opportunity to know Jesus through prayer. Of course he does not answer us with a booming voice from heaven, but with practice you learn to understand what he is telling you. You begin to recognize how opportunities present themselves in ways that they would not normally. Also, you become aware of changes that happen in your heart.

                    For example, my wife and I have been praying for guidance on what to do about child care. We have been to several places around us, and turned them all down. We even went to one place that is the best in the county, has one several awards, has NAENCY certification (I think I spelled that right) and has a waiting list a mile long. We turned them down as well because we felt in our hearts that God did not want us there for whatever reason. We need daycare in less than a month and at this point have no leads. However, I'm not worried because He's never let us down before.

                    Every night before I go to bed, I open the Bible and I spend "time with God", as I call it. I read for an indefinite while, meditate on what I've read and learned, and then I spend time in prayer with God. I talk to him as I do a friend or even a spouse. I tell him what's happening in my life, and what's worrying me, even though I know he already knows and knows what I need. It is this quality time, coupled with the changes for good that I see He does for me in my life that increase my love for him. I was not brainwashed in Catholic school. Even though my parents are "Christians," I did not have a good model as a child when it comes to "time with God". You know what I did during Sunday School. This is something that I have learned since becoming a Christian. It is also a discipline that all believers should follow.


                    I'm still waiting for someone to show me someone whose life has been radically changed for the better by believing in agnosticism or atheism.

                    -Hikage

                    PS> All passages provided by bible.com and I encourage you to read the full context of each quote.

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                    • Originally posted by Hikage
                      As I previously stated, someone has to be right. The whole point in placing faith in a "religion" is because you do believe it is true and that you have found the "correct answer." Why would I place faith in something that I believe to be true and at the same time admit that other religions are also true, when they are in direct defiace of what I believe? Do I think these other religions are bad? No, of course not. I just think they do not have the correct answer.

                      I do not follow "religion", as you call it, for some crutch through life. I prefer to say that I have a RELATIONSHIP with the one and only God and I choose to glorify Him through my life, which is commonly harder than a life w/o God and is a tough doctrine even for most Christians to swallow.



                      I'll repeat what I already wrote in a previous post on this thread. Perhaps you missed it the first time... Issue on Suffering:

                      Issue on Faith:
                      Right. The origonal step is faith. Just like Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail, when he takes that step out over the huge pit inside the cavern. It's purely faith that something will stop his fall. But when he looks back, he can see that it's been there all the time.

                      Just to reiterate, that first step is faith, when you decide that you want God in your life and accept him as Lord. From there, God will prove himself to you and you will understand it as truth.

                      FURTHERMORE:
                      You are absolutely correct. You do not know him, and therefore cannot love him.

                      John 10
                      26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

                      This is an interesting passage and requries some knowledge of the local culture. In most places around the world, shepherds follow the herds and boot the straglers into line. In Jerusalem, the shepherds actually lead the sheep, and call out to them. Unlike the hired hands who run when wolves come, the sheep trust these shepherds and will follow their voices.

                      Christians have an opportunity to know Jesus through prayer. Of course he does not answer us with a booming voice from heaven, but with practice you learn to understand what he is telling you. You begin to recognize how opportunities present themselves in ways that they would not normally. Also, you become aware of changes that happen in your heart.

                      For example, my wife and I have been praying for guidance on what to do about child care. We have been to several places around us, and turned them all down. We even went to one place that is the best in the county, has one several awards, has NAENCY certification (I think I spelled that right) and has a waiting list a mile long. We turned them down as well because we felt in our hearts that God did not want us there for whatever reason. We need daycare in less than a month and at this point have no leads. However, I'm not worried because He's never let us down before.

                      Every night before I go to bed, I open the Bible and I spend "time with God", as I call it. I read for an indefinite while, meditate on what I've read and learned, and then I spend time in prayer with God. I talk to him as I do a friend or even a spouse. I tell him what's happening in my life, and what's worrying me, even though I know he already knows and knows what I need. It is this quality time, coupled with the changes for good that I see He does for me in my life that increase my love for him. I was not brainwashed in Catholic school. Even though my parents are "Christians," I did not have a good model as a child when it comes to "time with God". You know what I did during Sunday School. This is something that I have learned since becoming a Christian. It is also a discipline that all believers should follow.


                      I'm still waiting for someone to show me someone whose life has been radically changed for the better by believing in agnosticism or atheism.

                      -Hikage

                      PS> All passages provided by bible.com and I encourage you to read the full context of each quote.

                      u mindlessly quoting from a book whos text has been changed probobly as many times as its been read over the many centuries doesnt really convince me of anything.

                      and yeah, u believing that ur religion is the right one, were everyone elses isnt is the problem right there. its conveniant how u can tolerate others, but still maintain that your way is the correct way, and they are all wrong. all we are doing is seperating ourselves.

                      whats funnier is that there is no way to possibly know who is right or wrong, this is a fact, so dont tell me that ur way is the correct way because there is no way on earth for u to know this.

                      faith = Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

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                      • Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                        anythings possible i guess. dont get me wrong, i do have my own personal beleifs and whatnot, and i personally beleive there must be something greater, but im also open to the idea that there may not be. anythings possible.
                        Do you think any man, with his bare hands and intellect, could have caused the big bang?

                        That's the best scientific theory we have about the origin of the universe and consequential creation of man. Again, data from hundreds of years of experiments in physics proves that energy is required to do work.

                        Must have been one heck of an energy source....considering that kind of energy, it could have easily happened in 7 days. There are more theories about the universe expanding and accelerating or contracting and decelerating so the creation of the original universe is not the same size or shape as it is today...I'm no expert in astrophysics, but its really interesting.

                        Einstein said that science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. Was he a Christian? No, but he certainly shows why you should take up religion. As great as his mind was, the most that he could come up with was that their was a need for religion and faith but an uncertainty about how the creator worked; an example of man trying to reach God on his own, but uncapable of doing it. I am not part of the Christian-Science denomination nor any non-mainstream group; I am also not disrespecting Einstein's great intelligence and contributions to society.

                        At the end of the day, you are free to choose your relgious beliefs in this country. I hope you will be able to relate your own personal struggles and rewards to something that will give you a deeper meaning to your life and a closer relationship to God.

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                        • Originally posted by Tom Yum
                          Do you think any man, with his bare hands and intellect, could have caused the big bang?

                          That's the best scientific theory we have about the origin of the universe and consequential creation of man. Again, data from hundreds of years of experiments in physics proves that energy is required to do work.

                          Must have been one heck of an energy source....considering that kind of energy, it could have easily happened in 7 days. There are more theories about the universe expanding and accelerating or contracting and decelerating so the creation of the original universe is not the same size or shape as it is today...I'm no expert in astrophysics, but its really interesting.

                          Einstein said that science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. Was he a Christian? No, but he certainly shows why you should take up religion. As great as his mind was, the most that he could come up with was that their was a need for religion and faith but an uncertainty about how the creator worked; an example of man trying to reach God on his own, but uncapable of doing it. I am not part of the Christian-Science denomination nor any non-mainstream group; I am also not disrespecting Einstein's great intelligence and contributions to society.

                          At the end of the day, you are free to choose your relgious beliefs in this country. I hope you will be able to relate your own personal struggles and rewards to something that will give you a deeper meaning to your life and a closer relationship to God.
                          i dont really know what any of that had to do what i posted, or with what u quoted me on.

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                          • You were saying that you believed in 'something' but weren't sure.

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