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  • #46
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    • #47
      i belive in both. i believe God set the world in motion, ie big bang and whatnot, which led to our creation through evolution. yeah we did evolve from primates or whatever, but it was God's will that allowed that to happen. so why cant we believe in both?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by EmptyneSs
        i belive in both. i believe God set the world in motion, ie big bang and whatnot, which led to our creation through evolution. yeah we did evolve from primates or whatever, but it was God's will that allowed that to happen. so why cant we believe in both?
        Because they contradict each other. Either God created man like the Bible states or he didn't. There is evolution aside from God, or there is God aside from evolution...black and white, no grey area.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by J-Luck
          Because they contradict each other. Either God created man like the Bible states or he didn't. There is evolution aside from God, or there is God aside from evolution...black and white, no grey area.
          well, they dont conflict for me, because i dont believe in what the bible says about how we were created. i do believe in god though, very strongly. i know this may be a huge surprise to you, but the bible aint the only perspective of were we came from and how we were created. you can believe in evolution and god at the same time. nothing is black and white, everything is grey if you havent noticed. if you assume everything to be black and white you are assuming things to be absolute, when they arent. you dont know for sure what happened, none of us do, and to claim otherwise seems pretty damn arrogant to me.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by J-Luck
            Because they contradict each other. Either God created man like the Bible states or he didn't. There is evolution aside from God, or there is God aside from evolution...black and white, no grey area.
            I believe in God as well and try to live in His word. It ain't easy...

            The $1,000,000 question: How did he make man? How did he make the universe?

            We didn't create ourselves, that's for sure.

            Until our bodies become compatible with machinese, both on a large scale (like artificial limbs) and on a micro-scale (cellular level), we're gonna see some feats of genetic engineering.

            Its gonna be crazy...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by EmptyneSs
              if you assume everything to be black and white you are assuming things to be absolute, when they arent.
              This is the bottom line issue of where you and I disagree. In saying this, you admit that there is no truth, and therefore that nothing can, in essence, ever be the right answer. So why then ask the questions? There has to be an answer. Truth is not subjective, rather objective.

              -Hikage

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              • #52
                Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                well, they dont conflict for me, because i dont believe in what the bible says about how we were created. i do believe in god though, very strongly. i know this may be a huge surprise to you, but the bible aint the only perspective of were we came from and how we were created. you can believe in evolution and god at the same time. nothing is black and white, everything is grey if you havent noticed. if you assume everything to be black and white you are assuming things to be absolute, when they arent. you dont know for sure what happened, none of us do, and to claim otherwise seems pretty damn arrogant to me.

                No, it is not arogant at all. lol. Your argument has no logic... I AM RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I THINK kinda sums up your argument. The very nature of God and his existence and what we know of him contradicts evolution, it is BLACK AND WHITE. You belive in one or the other... lol.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Tom Yum
                  I believe in God as well and try to live in His word. It ain't easy...

                  The $1,000,000 question: How did he make man? How did he make the universe?

                  We didn't create ourselves, that's for sure.

                  Until our bodies become compatible with machinese, both on a large scale (like artificial limbs) and on a micro-scale (cellular level), we're gonna see some feats of genetic engineering.

                  Its gonna be crazy...
                  I'll tell you how we were made... be prepared for "logic" lol. See there were a bunch of non living compounds and elements and substances that got together !somehow! by chance over a long period of time and created single cell organisms. Now, BY CHANCE, some of these single celled organisms with defects or different traits from the vast majority by chance got together and produced a new species or organism. Repeat trillions of times (most of the these reproductions are close to mathmatically impossible, some actually are outside the realm of mathmatical possibility) and you get EVOLUTION, and man!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Hikage
                    This is the bottom line issue of where you and I disagree. In saying this, you admit that there is no truth, and therefore that nothing can, in essence, ever be the right answer. So why then ask the questions? There has to be an answer. Truth is not subjective, rather objective.

                    -Hikage
                    YES, THANK YOU!!!! I use this whenever I get into the different religions and which one is correct debate... especially with those who feel everyone is going to heaven and we're all right... awww... what a cute world that would be ehh?

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                    • #55
                      a couple things,


                      If you believe in a world created with age, (which is supported by the bible since adam and eve were not babies) Then the process of evolution could be a mechanism created by God to continue after creation.

                      The problem of evolution is that in contradicts what we know.
                      The law of biogenesis, Life cannot come from non-life
                      3rd law of thermodynamics (systems move from order to chaos, not chaos to order as in evolution)

                      The statistical chances of evolution occuring are staggeringly low,


                      As for everyone going to heaven, it's not for anyone but God to decide, however there is a book that was included in the bible that has been removed, The Gospel of Mary Madgdellen which states that jesus told her that everyone in heaven will plead with God to forgive those in hell and he will in the end. Just depends on what you think of the gnostic scriptures I guess.

                      There are no numbers in the bible regarding age of the earth, They had no concept of 1 million and there were no words for very high numbers.

                      There are lots of opinions on this subject, please remember that even if you believe that yours is absolute truth it is still an opinion and others may disagree with you.

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                      • #56
                        This argument is stupid. What it always comes down to is faith. You can out argue other folks over the internet but it still won't mean you'll be right. Just give this topic a rest and get on with your lives. I suppose you all are curious what my belief is. Well I'll tell you...

                        I believe that eleventy billion quadrillion years ago, a giant bowl containing a plethora of spaghetti explodamagated. The spaghetti was sent flying across the universe at super speeds. Some spaghetti strands collided, wrapped together, and formed dwarves. The dwarves then worked together to create the earth, moon, sun, and the stars. However, when they created the sun, they forgot that the temperatures were super hot! They shortly died of dehydration. Their skeletons then grew skin over time and became dinosaurs, which later evolved into hominids(called men) that possessed super strength but horrible intelligence, which later evolved into a far more intelligent species (called women) that possessed higher intelligence but were easily distracted and were highly emotional one week a month. From that point on, the remaining spaghetti pieced together to form New York City...and here we are!

                        My theory is more plausible than all the other theories I've seen thus far in this thread :-/

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by J-Luck
                          I'll tell you how we were made... be prepared for "logic" lol. See there were a bunch of non living compounds and elements and substances that got together !somehow! by chance over a long period of time and created single cell organisms. Now, BY CHANCE, some of these single celled organisms with defects or different traits from the vast majority by chance got together and produced a new species or organism. Repeat trillions of times (most of the these reproductions are close to mathmatically impossible, some actually are outside the realm of mathmatical possibility) and you get EVOLUTION, and man!
                          Seems like you came off a little sarcastic, my friend. I'm sorry if my question offended. My faith in God isn't stinted by new scientific discoveries nor theories. My faith in God is confirmed by actually reading the Bible when I get the chance, treating others in the way Jesus would and praying to God about things that are out of my control. That doesn't mean that I just sit back and expect my shoes to get tied by God, but I labor like the ant and leave the rest up to the Lord.

                          Anyhow, I believe in the possibility of intelligent design. The world couldn't have been created by chance; if indeed the big bang theory shows more and more evidence of being true, just imagine the energy source behind it....see what I mean?

                          I do believe God created the universe. I just don't know how? I can only assume that we have a fraction of the clues revealed to us in science and the hard answer in the Bible.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by eXcessiveForce
                            a couple things,


                            If you believe in a world created with age, (which is supported by the bible since adam and eve were not babies) Then the process of evolution could be a mechanism created by God to continue after creation.

                            Right, and I would agree with that if evolution didn't inherently contradict creatianism.

                            The problem of evolution is that in contradicts what we know.
                            The law of biogenesis, Life cannot come from non-life
                            3rd law of thermodynamics (systems move from order to chaos, not chaos to order as in evolution)

                            The statistical chances of evolution occuring are staggeringly low,

                            So low in fact, that many "examples" of evolution exist outside the realm of mathmatical possibility.

                            As for everyone going to heaven, it's not for anyone but God to decide, however there is a book that was included in the bible that has been removed, The Gospel of Mary Madgdellen which states that jesus told her that everyone in heaven will plead with God to forgive those in hell and he will in the end. Just depends on what you think of the gnostic scriptures I guess.

                            I don't agree with that book. It doesn't meet full requirements of Cannon scripture. The pleading with God requires work. Salvation is not achieved through works, and is decided upon by the acceptance of his grace through his son.

                            There are no numbers in the bible regarding age of the earth, They had no concept of 1 million and there were no words for very high numbers.

                            Very true, and the interpretation of the word refering to day in Genesis in my earlier post further supports this.

                            There are lots of opinions on this subject, please remember that even if you believe that yours is absolute truth it is still an opinion and others may disagree with you.
                            Good post man. I was wonderin, are you a Christian?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tom Yum
                              Seems like you came off a little sarcastic, my friend. I'm sorry if my question offended. My faith in God isn't stinted by new scientific discoveries nor theories. My faith in God is confirmed by actually reading the Bible when I get the chance, treating others in the way Jesus would and praying to God about things that are out of my control. That doesn't mean that I just sit back and expect my shoes to get tied by God, but I labor like the ant and leave the rest up to the Lord.

                              Nonononono,I came off totally wrong then. I was being sarcastic, but not to you at all, to the one who created this thread and those who support the theory of evolution, not at all directed at you, in fact in support of you, my bad man.

                              Anyhow, I believe in the possibility of intelligent design. The world couldn't have been created by chance; if indeed the big bang theory shows more and more evidence of being true, just imagine the energy source behind it....see what I mean?

                              Totally.

                              I do believe God created the universe. I just don't know how? I can only assume that we have a fraction of the clues revealed to us in science and the hard answer in the Bible.
                              Good post, sorry for the mix-up.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Hikage
                                This is the bottom line issue of where you and I disagree. In saying this, you admit that there is no truth, and therefore that nothing can, in essence, ever be the right answer. So why then ask the questions? There has to be an answer. Truth is not subjective, rather objective.

                                -Hikage
                                no, i never said there isnt a truth. there is truth, but i doubt there is any way for us to know it, though we must struggle and try to achieve it regardless. look how many different religions and sects claim that they are the true word. there are even different fractions and groups with different beliefs within even the most practiced religions. who knows what the truth is amid such confusion. there is truth out there, but none of us know it and to claim that we do is wrong and arrogant in my opinion, because there is always the possibility that we were wrong. even if you feel something strongly in your heart, you need to be open to the possibility that what you feel so strongly may not have been the truth so you can accept the truth should you finally come across it.

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