NRA wants terror suspect to have acccess to guns

[Tant01]

What about it?

what about the video of the guy getting mauled by the lion?

Shit happens....

[Tom Yum]

The plan, organized by General Franks and General Safavi, was for Iranian Special Forces to discreetly enter the city and form an insurrection against the Taliban. This sudden event was to coincide with the entrance of Ismail Khan’s band of Northern Alliance militia members into the city. Meanwhile, a team of U.S. Special Forces and CIA agents would oversee the operation in Tehran alongside Iranian military intelligence.

The Operation

As planned, Iranian commandos secretly entered Herat to begin the insurrection. The Northern Alliance, Shi’ite ethnic factions, and a small group of U.S. Special Forces entered the city under the guidance of Ismail Khan. The Iranians launched the insurrection, which successfully gave way to, what Ismail Khan claimed to be, the local uprising against the Taliban leaders. The city was liberated that afternoon of November 12 without a fight. Iranian media even went as far as to report of widespread celebration including ‘dancing on the rooftops."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Herat

Excellent example, Dick.

I remember seeing pictures of American, Irani SF and Northern Alliance riding horseback across Afghanistan during a raid; good stuff.

[treelizard]

I am grateful for all muslims who denounce terrorism, but your quote makes me think that maybe they aren't doing it loud enough, often enough, or in the right places....

I agree with this.

[DickHardman]

i think we need to stop being tricked into thinking we are being threatened by all these third world countries all the time and realize that our totalitarian democracy is probably more of a threat to us american citizens than anything else.

more muslims have died fighting islamic fundamentalism than americans, that is the fact. whats more ironic is that many of these fundamentalist regimes that people fight against are supported by the usa. we give so much support to saudi arabia while knowing full well they are one of the biggest abusers of human rights as well as full sponsers of the very same people who are killing americans in anbar. we give full support to the saudis while they buy more and more powerful weapons to send to iraqi insurgents fighting americans. doesnt make much sense to me.

[treelizard]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

[DickHardman]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

i can also find you a page describing any religion in a negative way, or portray them as the ultimate evil if i wanted to.

[treelizard]

i can also find you a page describing any religion in a negative way, or portray them as the ultimate evil if i wanted to.

Sure, find me a list of terror attacks by (insert religion here) for the past three months, and I'll read it.

[DickHardman]

Sure, find me a list of terror attacks by (insert religion here) for the past three months, and I'll read it.

all those terror attacks were in some of the most fucked up countries in the world. i saw the list, it was all countries like somalia, pakistan, afghanistan and iraq. places that were already turbulent and violent even before 9/11 and the bogus war on terror. most of them were in iraq and afghanistan, two countries that are current warzones. of course there are going to be many violent attacks in current warzones lol....

[treelizard]

Yeah. It's just Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq. And Thailand. And the Phillipines. And India. And Chechnya and Ethiopia and Sudan and Lebanon and Turkey and Nigeria and Indonesia and Algeria and Bangladesh and Morocco and Yemen and Chad and Jordan and...well, you get the point.

all those terror attacks were in some of the most fucked up countries in the world. i saw the list, it was all countries like somalia, pakistan, afghanistan and iraq. places that were already turbulent and violent even before 9/11 and the bogus war on terror. most of them were in iraq and afghanistan, two countries that are current warzones. of course there are going to be many violent attacks in current warzones lol....

[DickHardman]

Yeah. It's just Iraq and Afghanistan. And Thailand. And the Phillipines. And India. And Somalia, and Chechnya and Pakistan and Ethiopia and Sudan and Lebanon and Turkey and Nigeria and Indonesia and Algeria and Bangladesh and Morocco and Yemen and Chad and Jordan and...well, you get the point.

all those countries you list only strengthen my point. those were all very turbulent third world countries that have had problems way before the bogus war on terror. the only thing that changed since the war on terror started was that attacks in these countries only increased due to the lawlessness its caused in some of these places.

shit happens all over the world, dont let people exploit it to keep you in a constant state of fear. a few weeks ago we had a severely violent incident occur in our nation, and it had nothing to do with muslims or middle easterners.

why dont you post a page like this instead of propaganda?

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

[treelizard]

all those countries you list only strengthen my point. those were all very turbulent third world countries that have had problems way before the bogus war on terror. the only thing that changed since the war on terror started was that attacks in these countries only got worse, not better.

So you're making excuses for terrorist attacks? Yeah, I guess innocent lives in turbulent countries don't count, huh?

[Tant01]

Boom!

Yeah. It's just Iraq and Afghanistan. And Thailand. And the Phillipines. And India. And Somalia, and Chechnya and Pakistan and Ethiopia and Sudan and Lebanon and Turkey and Nigeria and Indonesia and Algeria and Bangladesh and Morocco and Yemen and Chad and Jordan and...well, you get the point.

In essence, it is by definition a WORLD wide war.

It is fear inspiring. Considering the capability of the US fleets alone.

As far back as the early 1980's there were elements of our military calling for nuclear attacks in the middle east. I recall hearing it called the "glass parking lot"....

[DickHardman]

In essence, it is by definition a WORLD wide war.

It is fear inspiring. Considering the capability of the US fleets alone.

As far back as the early 1980's there were elements of our military calling for nuclear attacks in the middle east. I recall hearing it called the "glass parking lot"....

utter propaganda. its this kind of attitude that only perpetuates violence. i guess some people really dont want peace.

[DickHardman]

So you're making excuses for terrorist attacks? Yeah, I guess innocent lives in turbulent countries don't count, huh?

i didnt make excuses for them, i only said that just about every country you stated was a country that already had many problems even way before 9/11 and the war on terror. the war on terror is bogus, as it has only provoked these situations in their respective countries instead of making the situation better. how is that to our benefit??

chechnyans have been at war with russia since like the early 90's, but people are only hearing about it now that putin wanted to exploit the "war on terror" to get help from the usa in crushing the chechen problem.

the phillipines have had problems with insurgency for how long?????? same with thailand and india, all those countries lol. aint nothing new, they are only now being exploited as excuses to launch operations against other countries. i think we should take care of americas problems before we try to take care of other countries problems. making more enemies and adopting an aggressive and confrontational attitude may end up harming us more than helping which has been the case so far.

[darrianation]

A long time ago in a land far far away I was in the military. I was working in the Philippines along side Filipino soldiers searching for terrorists who were kidnapping American tourists (and Europeans too) and holding them for ransom.

We uncovered a network of terror that went beyond simple kidnapping. We actually caught two guys (besides many others) who it turned out to have close ties with Iraqi diplomats. These guys were supplying extremists with money given to them by the Iraqi diplomats to fund attacks in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia. The money as it were was followed back to Iraq. This was in the 80’s. Yes, it was on foreign soil but Americans and allies were the target.

At the time the accepted method of dealing with these guys (terrorists, kidnappers, etc,) was to simply kill them. I am not sure if it was a “Best Practice” policy but it sure worked better than appeasement. Not sure if much has changed since then.

But as long as i've been in this business (since the mid 80's) I ceretainly don't have any good answers.

And dick as much as I dislike you I think you have a good point about fearing our own "totalitarian democracy". We definitely have enemies abroad and at home and in places where both domestic and foreign policy is made.