NRA wants terror suspect to have acccess to guns

[DickHardman]

A long time ago in a land far far away I was in the military. I was working in the Philippines along side Filipino soldiers searching for terrorists who were kidnapping American tourists (and Europeans too) and holding them for ransom.

We uncovered a network of terror that went beyond simple kidnapping. We actually caught two guys (besides many others) who it turned out to have close ties with Iraqi diplomats. These guys were supplying extremists with money given to them by the Iraqi diplomats to fund attacks in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia. The money as it were was followed back to Iraq. This was in the 80’s. Yes, it was on foreign soil but Americans and allies were the target.

At the time the accepted method of dealing with these guys (terrorists, kidnappers, etc,) was to simply kill them. I am not sure if it was a “Best Practice” policy but it sure worked better than appeasement.

But as long as i've been in this game (since the mid 80's) I ceretainly don't have any good answers.

And dick as much as I dislike you I think you have a good point about we should have fear for our totalitarian democracy. We definitely have enemies abroad and at home and in places where domestic policy is made.

if we knew the iraqis were funding terrorists that were responsible for killing americans than why did we decide to become his partner? it doesnt make sense. just like its fucked up that we give saudis support, who in turn give support to insurgents fighting americans. why do we keep empowering our own enemies?

[darrianation]

Politics...

[darrianation]

Things are more fucked up than most folks realize!

[DickHardman]

Politics...

well then, we really cant expect to truly defeat or change people that we empower ourselves. not until we fix the political part.

[Tant01]

Pull your head out of the sand...

utter propaganda. its this kind of attitude that only perpetuates violence. i guess some people really dont want peace.

Are you kidding? Propaganda? Dude... I was there. We were standing by to do the deed... You really don't know?

No one hates war more than a warrior...

[darrianation]

well then, we really cant expect to truly defeat or change people that we empower ourselves. not until we fix the political part.

I’ve been all over the world and I have seen both the best in people and the worst the courageous and the cowards. The problem as I see it (over simplified) is this: the innate self-absorbed. It is in “mans” nature that once he gains a little authority to become corrupted by it and begin to practice unrighteous dominion.

And for us minions instead of it being we are all in this together, it is everyone for themselves. If you can’t fix that then I am sorry to say it just might not be fixable.

Just my humble oppinion.

[darrianation]

As far back as the early 1980's there were elements of our military calling for nuclear attacks in the middle east. I recall hearing it called the "glass parking lot"....

I don't recall this but a lot of folks thought that way I'm sure.

I recall hearing it called the "glass parking lot"

That's classic.

Again I don't think much has changed.

[Ahsen]

I just read all the post Aside with all the racist slurs

I want to get something straight here


Jihad is expression used in Muslim to describe some one whos struggling
to strive in any occation. that includes also some struggling to revising for exam. All in all it is someone who struggling to fight to gain something.

Therefore Jihadist can be someone strugglling to get a high mark in a SAT exam
The word you guys are looking for is Terroists, Extremist and Radicalist
cus thats what they are NOT JIHADIST !!!!
Also people are forgetting is that all religion has got thier bad apples
great example is Christains and the IRA

Its people not the religion who twisted and high jack it
spreed hate and that. Y'know I, and many others in my community fought against extremists and radicalist but you make our life harder with racist slurs and give them the oppitunity.

Racist slurs are not freedom of speech anyone who thinks that, needs to betean with his/her mothers shoe from here to Mars and back again.
Its attitude lilke this ruins the reputation of the west, gives Extremist ammunition and go on their propaganda, and craps on those soidlers who gave their VERY life for OUR FREEDOM in WW2

[Ahsen]

Yeah. It's just Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq. And Thailand. And the Phillipines. And India. And Chechnya and Ethiopia and Sudan and Lebanon and Turkey and Nigeria and Indonesia and Algeria and Bangladesh and Morocco and Yemen and Chad and Jordan and...well, you get the point.

Its just USA, UK, Spain, German, France and Austraila, Japan, Israel, Portugul, Irlend, Canada, Russia, and Greece and South Africa, Austria, New Zealand, Sweden, Fidland, Switzaland, Norway, Denmark and the entire Europe state with Racist attitides and attacks on Ethinic groups.....well, you get the point Treelizard.

Sure, find me a list of terror attacks by (insert religion here) for the past three months, and I'll read it. .

Yep here it is:
Hindus vs Buddah in Siri-Lanka
Catholic vs Protastent in England
Jews vs Muslim and Christain in Lebanon and Palistine
Buddah vs Christains in Thiland
Catholic + Prostant vs Muslim in the middleeast
Hindus vs Muslim in India
Ommuiniist vs religion in China
Need I go on……….

So you're making excuses for terrorist attacks? Yeah, I guess innocent lives in turbulent countries don't count, huh? .

..and colatral Damage I guess those don’t count either how ethical ! 


You amaze me Lizard I thought you were better than that


Your list of counties of where Terroist originated suggesting and giving a hidden motive that these countries are Barbaric when you don’t even read the actual
Thread of this forum ie the NRA is giving guns to suspect that s really civilised

[darrianation]

Racist slurs are not freedom of speech anyone who thinks that, needs to betean with his/her mothers shoe from here to Mars and back again.
Its attitude lilke this ruins the reputation of the west, gives Extremist ammunition and go on their propaganda, and craps on those soidlers who gave their VERY life for OUR FREEDOM in WW2

We can kill them but we can't call them names....

You guys are fucking pathetic.

[darrianation]

Some of you folks think to much like prey instead of the predator.

[Ahsen]

We can kill them but we can't call them names....

You guys are fucking pathetic.

Darriantion did you not read my post properly ?

distiguish whos the Terrorist and law abiding Muslims
...and stop swearing at me !!!!

Some of you folks think to much like prey instead of the predator.

No Darrington we think more logical cus that way we'll zero in the culprits,

[darrianation]

Darriantion did you not read my post properly ?

distiguaish whos the Terrorist and law abiding
...and stop swearing at me ????

If I read you wrong I certainly apologize but the racial slurs you referred too was me calling a “hajji of the desert” shooting up a parking lot a raghead and folks got offended.

Listen, I can go over there and fucking chop one of them evil terrorists, murderer, rapists up with a machete and you pin a medal to my chest. I call him a rag head and you’ll have me flogged. What fucking blatant hypocrisy.

[darrianation]

Ahsen: No Darrington we think more logical cus that way we'll zero in the culprits,

You don’t cleanse the world of predators or the ones in your own neighborhood for that matter by thinking like a victim.

[treelizard]

Its just USA, UK, Spain, German, France and Austraila, Japan, Israel, Portugul, Irlend, Canada, Russia, and Greece and South Africa, Austria, New Zealand, Sweden, Fidland, Switzaland, Norway, Denmark and the entire Europe state with Racist attitides and attacks on Ethinic groups.....well, you get the point Treelizard.

You saying that racism and attacks on ethnic groups are limited to those countries?