Religious diffrences

[DickHardman]

Your link is not athentic like I told you already. I have given many reasons why it is not. You may look back at what I wrote before if you forgot.

ok, lets say the site is corrupt. now please show me proof that quran is the true word of god.

It is a historical fact that prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) did not know how to read or write.

what evidence do you have to prove this?

How many corrupt sites can you find that say that the Quran was changed ?

I can post 1000 sites that say it has never been changed. You want to have a contest?

ok then, show me evidence that clearly proves that these allegations are false.

[Uke]

The next undelying point between these two religions is the New Testament of the bible. The Jewish religion believes in the Tora which is pretty much the same as the Christian bible's old testamnet. One main diffrence being that Lilith referenced in the Talmud (another Jewish holy boobk) was the first woman created and she was also created out of mud like Adam. Lilith wanted equal treatment and not just to be a companion for Adam. This got her kicked out into the Land of Nod the area outside of Eden. Later lore also states that she bore Cain several "children" who were spirits and demons after he was kicked out of Eden for the murder of his brother Abel.

I thought this might add to this part:

"In post-biblical Jewish literature, Lilith was named as Adam's first wife, created out of earth in the same way as he had created the first man. The pair immediately began to quarrel because Lilith refused to lie beneath Adam sexually; she saw no reason to since they had both been created from the same earth or dirt. When Adam refused to compromise Lilith fled to the Red Sea to 'consort' with demons, according to most accounts, though this might be understood as the choice to live an independent life in which she could enjoy autonomy. She refused subjugation, and, as a wind spirit, flew away and resumed her ancient sexual practices by living at the Red Sea, or as many would interpret it, dwelling in a womb of power, of menstrual blood.

When Adam complained to God that she had left him, the story goes, God sent three angels, Senoy, Sansenoy and Semangelof to bring her back to the Garden of Eden. She refused. When the angels then threatened to drown her, she swore that she had been sent by God and that although her 'function' was to kill babies, she would spare any child protected by an amulet or plaque with her name on it if they let her go. The angels meted out drastic punishment. There are three versions of this punishment in the literature: 100 of her babies would die each night; she would be doomed to giving birth to children who were demons; or God would make her barren. All three options are equally frightening; this part of the legend was clearly constructed to illustrate the horrible fate which awaited women who did not obey their husbands. No doubt this extended to one's father or priest -- to any male who wanted to claim 'dominion' over the woman or women in his arena of control."

[Uke]

The Jewish religion is based on the Old Religious Law therefore does not ackwoledge the New Testament of the Bible which allows people to eat pork and such. Also the New Testament hold s the prophisies that tell of the second coming of Christ which the Jewish faith does not belive the First coming has happened.

Now all three religions Holy books, The Bible, The Tora and The Qur'an all have similar stories upto the point of Abraham. While the Bible and the Tora run closely all the way to the end of the Old Testamnet the Qur'an branches right at the story of Abraham this is where the Muslim Religion branches.

Judaism doesn't recognize or acknowledge the New Testament because Christianity is nothing more than a splinter branch of Judaism. The laws of Christ were first argued in 325 AD in the Nicean Council. It was there that Emperor Constantine decided the view of the Trinity, the sabbath day, when Easter should be celebrated, and whether Christ was the of the same essence of God.

In 787 there was a second Nicean Council. It revoked the old Nicean Decree. This was the birth place of Christianity where Judaism was made into a new group called Christians.

All three religions worship the God of Abraham. They all have they different dogmas, but essentially Jehovah, Adonay, and Allah are all the same God.

[kingoftheforest]

I thought this might add to this part:

"In post-biblical Jewish literature, Lilith was named as Adam's first wife, created out of earth in the same way as he had created the first man. The pair immediately began to quarrel because Lilith refused to lie beneath Adam sexually; she saw no reason to since they had both been created from the same earth or dirt. When Adam refused to compromise Lilith fled to the Red Sea to 'consort' with demons, according to most accounts, though this might be understood as the choice to live an independent life in which she could enjoy autonomy. She refused subjugation, and, as a wind spirit, flew away and resumed her ancient sexual practices by living at the Red Sea, or as many would interpret it, dwelling in a womb of power, of menstrual blood.

When Adam complained to God that she had left him, the story goes, God sent three angels, Senoy, Sansenoy and Semangelof to bring her back to the Garden of Eden. She refused. When the angels then threatened to drown her, she swore that she had been sent by God and that although her 'function' was to kill babies, she would spare any child protected by an amulet or plaque with her name on it if they let her go. The angels meted out drastic punishment. There are three versions of this punishment in the literature: 100 of her babies would die each night; she would be doomed to giving birth to children who were demons; or God would make her barren. All three options are equally frightening; this part of the legend was clearly constructed to illustrate the horrible fate which awaited women who did not obey their husbands. No doubt this extended to one's father or priest -- to any male who wanted to claim 'dominion' over the woman or women in his arena of control."

Thanks Uke, I didn't go into that cause I though my post was too long as it were. That also kind of ties in with the ancient Sumerian story of Lilith which is a tale of Gilgamesh the forgotten warrior. Some good stuff there thanks.

[hEmPY]

religion is the best way to fukk your brain
to make a dependant from you
to make you forget what life is, instead dreamin of somethin else that does not exist and a lie
to make you stop resist, dreamin that
god ( <- aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaa ) will take revenge for you
to have you under control of dead ancient gay sectants that made it for money like all the lies
to make you stop thinkin, instead havin a book of rulez that you should obey
to make you stop live and start to exist
to make you agree with any decision or acts of people that are on the top of the lie you obey

you are just afraid to die

religion is gay

[kingoftheforest]

Something stuck on this guys brain ya think?

religion is the best way to fukk your brain
to make a dependant from you
to make you forget what life is, instead dreamin of somethin else that does not exist and a lie
to make you stop resist, dreamin that
god ( <- aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaa ) will take revenge for you
to have you under control of dead ancient gay sectants that made it for money like all the lies
to make you stop thinkin, instead havin a book of rulez that you should obey
to make you stop live and start to exist
to make you agree with any decision or acts of people that are on the top of the lie you obey

you are just afraid to die

religion is gay

While I do agree that religion is a tool used to entrap people's minds and control how they think and feel. I also agree that it is a money making agent and used to create disharmony, for the most part around the world..............

I do have to state that almost all religions in the world regard homosexuality as taboo and frown upon it so the statement that "religion is gay" as you put it seems to be a misnomer since religion frowns upon "being gay".
But thanks for taking the time to add to the discussion there hempster thanks for the input.

[jubaji]

religion is the best way to fukk your brain
to make a dependant from you
to make you forget what life is, instead dreamin of somethin else that does not exist and a lie
to make you stop resist, dreamin that
god ( <- aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaa ) will take revenge for you
to have you under control of dead ancient gay sectants that made it for money like all the lies
to make you stop thinkin, instead havin a book of rulez that you should obey
to make you stop live and start to exist
to make you agree with any decision or acts of people that are on the top of the lie you obey

you are just afraid to die

religion is gay

Another worthless burnout deviant heard from...

[kingoftheforest]

All three religions worship the God of Abraham. They all have they different dogmas, but essentially Jehovah, Adonay, and Allah are all the same God.

Kinda sad that it really all boils down to that isn't it. All the blood letting and death, destruction of whole civilizations just because they can't disagree on who's kid should get the M.V.P. (Most Valuable Prophet)award.

[jubaji]

Take away religion and those same folks would find some other reason to kill each other. Instead of blaming religion per se for historical violence, the focus should be on the inherently violent nature of human beings, which ideally is mitigated and controlled by the intended teachings of most major religions.

People don't scream about seatbelts being worthless just because people still die in car accidents.

[kingoftheforest]

Take away religion and those same folks would find some other reason to kill each other. Instead of blaming religion per se for historical violence, the focus should be on the inherently violent nature of human beings, which ideally is mitigated and controlled by the intended teachings of most major religions.

People don't scream about seatbelts being worthless just because people still die in car accidents.

I'll agree that religion does help the unmitigated disaster known as the human race, but you have to wonder if it wasn't the cattle prod that led us in this direction. Sometimes I wonder what other excuse the world leaders would have turned to, to cause the wars that give them power, if there was no religion. It certainly isn't a driving force in communism.

[jubaji]

It would be the same reason that underlies historical reality: Power. Communism just uses a distorted version of religion anyway. The desire for power, not the intended message of major world religions, drives humans to violence one way or another.

[Tom Yum]

Judaism doesn't recognize or acknowledge the New Testament because Christianity is nothing more than a splinter branch of Judaism. The laws of Christ were first argued in 325 AD in the Nicean Council. It was there that Emperor Constantine decided the view of the Trinity, the sabbath day, when Easter should be celebrated, and whether Christ was the of the same essence of God.

In 787 there was a second Nicean Council. It revoked the old Nicean Decree. This was the birth place of Christianity where Judaism was made into a new group called Christians.

One could argue that Christianity was an improvement upon Judaism.

[DickHardman]

One could argue that Christianity was an improvement upon Judaism.

ask some jewish people that lol......

[hEmPY]

lol *

[Tom Yum]

ask some jewish people that lol......

I honestly don't know a whole lot about Judaism, except where it is connected to Christianity....a little birde or uh reptile, gave me some good resources to start with.