Senator Obama VS Senator Clinton

[Hardball]

Well it's down to Ohio and Texas on March 4th. They are saying that the Superdelegates may eventually have to decide this race.

Where is Mike Brewer when you need a hot topic discussed?

[Ghost]

just about everyone outside of the US wants Obama for this, clinton looks dopey to me and Obama just seems to tear her apart. She comes across as overly emotional and seems less intelligent.

The effect of a black president with obamas name and his intelligence on the world scene is certainly what america, and the world, needs right now.

GO Obama.

[DickHardman]

just about everyone outside of the US wants Obama for this, clinton looks dopey to me and Obama just seems to tear her apart. She comes across as overly emotional and seems less intelligent.

The effect of a black president with obamas name and his intelligence on the world scene is certainly what america, and the world, needs right now.

GO Obama.

i agree ghost. i dont believe obama has all the answers to our problems, but he sure carries himself better than any other candidate ive seen. he wants to pull all our troops out of iraq immediately though if he gets elected, im not sure if that would be a good idea or not. if the iraqis are able to hunt and kill the terrorists in their country without any USA help at all then it would be fine. but if they still need our troops and our air power to aid them, pulling out would be disastrous and all our recent gains would have been for nothing.

[Hardball]

If you have been following the race then you know the issue is the Superdelegates. It seems that the Superdelegates can do whatever they want to do which means Senator Clinton may win in spite of being behind when the delegate votes are counted.

[jubaji]

Doesn't look too good for the Witch at this point.

[jubaji]

just about everyone outside of the US wants Obama for this, clinton looks dopey to me and Obama just seems to tear her apart. She comes across as overly emotional and seems less intelligent.

The effect of a black president with obamas name and his intelligence on the world scene is certainly what america, and the world, needs right now.

GO Obama.

To say we "need" anyone to be President based on their name and/or skin color is stupid and racist.

[Hardball]

Yea but will the Superdelegates vote for Obama or Clinton?

[Dim Wit Moc]

I like Obama's style and voted for him in the primary, even though I believe Hillary has a better chance in the general election. It could be that the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot again, and instead of getting change, are going to get 4-8 more years of a Republican President. If McCain appeases the conservatives by running with Huckabee, they will be formidable opponents.

Now, if these two (H & O) put their egos aside and go with a Hillary-Obama or Obama-Hillary "Dream Ticket" they might have an much better chance in the general election.

[jubaji]

That would be a 'dream ticket' for the Republicans...

[Ghost]

To say we "need" anyone to be President based on their name and/or skin color is stupid and racist.

Its what the world needs, it will probably never need it again after, surely you can see the huge significance of having a black president and for him having such a name as well.
It will be a turning point, i think most of the world acknowledges that and is preying for it.

[jubaji]

Its what the world needs, it will probably never need it again after, surely you can see the huge significance of having a black president and for him having such a name as well.
It will be a turning point, i think most of the world acknowledges that and is preying for it.

A) That's bullshit

B) That's stupid as hell

C) That's racist

[FitnessRubber]

A) That's bullshit

B) That's stupid as hell

C) That's racist

agreed... but at the same point there are a lot of folks who see it that way

[Ghost]

The world wont want McCain because he is a military man. He will be seen as more of the same. I have nothing against the guy, i quite like him infact.

But the point about Obama is one of the enormous step forward it will be to have the first black president of the USA and with a muslim sounding name like his. It will change the worlds perception of the american public, it will ease the worlds suspicion of america.
McCain largely represents what has been before ( in the eyes of the world).
Alot of americas problems in the world are down to its foreign policy and its crazy half-witted warlord leaders.
Obama would sit well with other foreign leaders, very well infact and the benefit of this for america would be enormous.
The media in the uk has been talking quite abit about this subject and i think alot of the worlds media has, i expect it wont be picked up on so much in the US but we can certainly see the significance of this.

Its no coincidence that Obama is getting the educated peoples vote.
If its not Obama id choose McCain, Hillary just comes across as thick, slow and incompetent, McCain seems very competant and intelligent.
So if we stay par for the course then Hillary should be set to be president and we will go around in circles again.

Out of the 3 i think Obama represents the best overall gain for the world then secondly for america. Im more interested in the rest of the world rather than america specifically, simply because of the number of people involved.

[jubaji]

The world wont want...

Let's start with: **** what the 'world' wants.



As for the rest of your vacuous, superficial, racist nonsense, I think I already covered that with:

[Tom Yum]

The world wont want McCain because he is a military man. He will be seen as more of the same. I have nothing against the guy, i quite like him infact.

I'll take a shot in the dark that you like McCain at a gut level, while you like Obama because you see him as a fit for the current foreign political scene.

You instinctively like McCain because he's no nonsense, understands what he's saying and is pragmatic. I think others around the world would too.

But the point about Obama is one of the enormous step forward it will be to have the first black president of the USA and with a muslim sounding name like his. It will change the worlds perception of the american public, it will ease the worlds suspicion of america.

Choosing Obama as a leader because of his potential for perception management is an interesting idea. As mentioned before, Obama is an intelligent man and an enthusiastic statesman - but perception can only take you so far.

McCain has been in Washington for 25 years; Obama about 10. That translates to working for Presidents for 6 more terms. He's seen what works and doesn't with foreign leadership and will do what is right. That's a statement of faith, but if you look at the diverse political spectrum that supports him (many Democrats, most Republicans and some Independents), that's alot of different people who shre this faith in him.

McCain doesn't need a Muslim sounding name to win hearts and minds abroad; just an old fashioned ability to talk to people, build relationships and deliver on his promises.

McCain largely represents what has been before ( in the eyes of the world).Alot of americas problems in the world are down to its foreign policy and its crazy half-witted warlord leaders. Obama would sit well with other foreign leaders, very well infact and the benefit of this for america would be enormous.

President Reagan sat well with foreign leaders; he negotiated the disarmament of many nuclear weapons with the former Soviet Union. He had a great relationship with Queen Elizabeth and was the only U.S. President to receive the Grand Cordon of the Order of Chrysanthemum award from Japan.

President Reagan, being an older and wiser leader, understood the importance of making personal and honorable relationships with other worldly leaders - I see McCain taking this path.

Obama might seem more favorable due to appearance and name but that alone is not going to automatically soothe political tensions in the Middle East or Africa. Al-Qaeda will still be planning attacks on us around the world, even if it means sacrificing other Muslims as they demonstrate again and again. Africans will still get caught up in bloody genocide and still attempt to seize oil platforms along the coasts.

Being a military man is an asset for our leadership and our allies defense. McCain is battle tested; he was a commissioned officer and Naval Pilot, lead successfull attacks in war and sat through some of the worst experiences you could imagine. He can endure hardship and continue forward. I believe McCain would also listen to his military advisers, having come from the same backgrounds, whereas other leaders in the past decade have been less willing to do so.

He is far from what you'd call a warlord type. He's more of a "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" type.

Out of the 3 i think Obama represents the best overall gain for the world then secondly for america. Im more interested in the rest of the world rather than america specifically, simply because of the number of people involved.

This is going to be a great election either way! Remember, its an American election first.

Other than the war, the economy is going to be a key issue - McCain's fiscal conservativism and push for a smaller, efficient government is going to win the votes of more than just conservatives since every American is affected by the economy. I'm confident that he'll cut government spending down, relieve taxation for small to medium sized businesses and probably come up with some clever ideas for getting our economy back in gear and reversing the trade deficit with China.

I'd wager that the stock market would favor McCain's over Obama - some of it may be perception, but McCain has saved the American Government lots of money through spending cuts and successfully served as Chariman of the Commerce Committee which deals with every major economic issue in the U.S.