Mayweather vs DelaHoya

[hEmPY]

dat waz a great fight

[hEmPY]

De La Hoya won

I dont give a fukk

judgez just robbed him

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u guyz may argue

I dont give a fukk

really

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[hEmPY]

actually u can vote here

[bigred389]

Mayweather legitimately won. He simply landed more, cleaner shots, and de la Hoya, while throwing flurries, didn't really hurt him at any point.

I think Mayweather's post fight smack talk was ridiculous though, that fight was swinging on a razor edge until the later rounds.

Also, Lampley made himself sound like an idiot, while Kellerman clearly anticipates and looks forward to working for the UFC's HBO productions soon.

[Uke]

ALL THAT TALK JUST TO HAVE YOUR DREAMS CRUSHED AND STEPPED ON!!!

There was no question that Floyd Mayweather won. That's simply the difference between people who understand boxing and people who don't. Every time DLH threw a punch there were "oooh's and aaaah's", whether he connected or not. This isn't some toughman competition where all the sloppy mess that's thrown counts. Its World Championship boxing.

And the fight wasn't close in terms of anything but fan's desire to see DLH win. It wasn't a domination and it was competitive, but close? No sir. The stats completely reflect that.

Total Punches:__De La Hoya___Mayweather
Landed:_____________122________207
Thrown:_____________587________481
Pct.:________________21%_______43%
Power Punches:__De La Hoya___Mayweather
Landed:______________82________138
Thrown:_____________341________241
Pct.:________________24%_______57%

If anyone knew even a little bit about boxing, then they would know that when a boxer is landing 50% of his punches or close to it, he's winning the fight unless the other boxer has competitive numbers or more knockdowns.

Floyd had twice DLH's percentage in both total punches and power punches. Not every Mayweather bout will look like what he did to Arturo Gatti, but for his very first match in the jr middleweight division he did better than damn good. Every one else like takes tune-ups! Some people felt that 5 years ago that DLH would have done better, but 5 years ago DLH was getting his ass beat by Shane Mosley, who was reluctant to fight Mayweather for years, even at lightweight where Shane had the bulk of his best fights. And most recently when Mayweather told Shane they could meet, Shane tried to delegate the fight to Margarito.

I guess no one at this site realizes just how difficult it is to go and become a champion at a heavier weight class. Boxers ruin their careers trying to do what Mayweather has done tonight. Trinidad got beaten and retired behind trying to do exactly what Mayweather did tonight. DLH got knocked out trying to do the exact same thing that Mayweather did tonight. Shane Mosley lost several times trying to accomplish what Mayweather did tonight. And the list goes on. Eric Morales. Arturo Gatti. Diego Corrales. Ricky Hatton fits here too, but the judges blessed him with a gift decision against Collazo before he ran back down to his original weight class, realizing that the welterweight was too much for himself.

In closing, Floyd was definitely victorious, but IMO it didn't mean much. Oscar DelaHoya just was never that significant a victory in terms of Floyd's legacy. DLH, who has been all too often the recipient of the gift decision, has lost to every elite fighter he's met without the aid of the gift. Now if Floyd had beaten Wright or Hopkins, that would have been a crowning achievement. After all, even DLH avoided Wright like the plague.

[Uke]

Wow, that was an awesome fight. Mayweather outclassed him. He really is the best P4P boxer in the world. Lets see him vs Pacquio next...

But, its official.... Boxing's popularity ended tonight. The rise of mixed martial arts is here. Every single day, every single night, there's IFL, PRIDE, and UFC on tv. IFL is on 2 different non-cable channels and BodogFight is on ION television.

First, Pacquiao is several weight divisions below Floyd Mayweather. Unless PacMan were to make a serious rise in weight and defeat the gatekeepers in those divisions, that fight will never ever happen.

Second, boxing is on several channels a day. I believe that the there is a lot of interest in NHB type competitions. I don't think that they will ever rise to the level of boxing because most people don't find ground submission wrestling entertaining, and some never will. Its not impossible for it to grow in popularity, but let's wait and see before we start waving any flags suggesting that the NHB invasion has begun.

The money generated by NHB is no where near boxing in terms of attendance or PPV's bought. The paydays of NHB fighters are no where near boxers, and the overall popularity of boxing is larger. PPV and Spike TV are responsible for NHB popularity these last 15 years. Boxing is a science and a mainstream sport that has been established for over the last 100 years.

Time will tell. And I know how much you love it 7r14ngL3Ch0k3, so I hope that it someday does get as organized and popular as you'd like it to be.

[Uke]

I recall one recent discussion where someone was talking about savate, blended with other arts to form a self-defense system? YOU turned that into a tirade about how I'm not qualified to talk about JKD.

Where's the "savate blended with other arts" topic in that?

Hypocrite.

Actually Mr Selective Memory, the Savate topic started off fine. It wasn't until I asked if JKD wasn't supposed to be formless and a concept that it became a "misconceptions" debate.

You don't have to be an expert to know the tenets of a style. And once I wrote what I had been told by several practitioners, it became a "I know more than you do" debate. It all starts on post #12 after I explain that I had gone to experienced people in what we were discussing and got all my answer there so not to have misconceptions. Its all there to read.

BTW, bling and rims is the jr welterweight champion. Did ya hear?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

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Second, boxing is on several channels a day. I believe that the there is a lot of interest in NHB type competitions. I don't think that they will ever rise to the level of boxing because most people don't find ground submission wrestling entertaining, and some never will. Its not impossible for it to grow in popularity, but let's wait and see before we start waving any flags suggesting that the NHB invasion has begun.

Just because Boxing is on TV everday doesnt mean it gets good ratings, especially the ESPN classic shit and the "Nuttin but Knockouts" show. The fights on IFL and Pride are much more exciting than any boxing bout especially to someone who doesnt even like Fighting sports.(i didnt even mention TUF or UFC because the shit they put on Spike is embarrasing, except for the UFN and UFC 70). You say people dont find ground grappling exciting? Fortunately thats only like one forth of the mma game. People dig the ground and pound though.
Its definitely popular now, but its still not accepted by everybody because theyre ignorant about the sport.

The money generated by NHB is no where near boxing in terms of attendance or PPV's bought. The paydays of NHB fighters are no where near boxers, and the overall popularity of boxing is larger. PPV and Spike TV are responsible for NHB popularity these last 15 years. Boxing is a science and a mainstream sport that has been established for over the last 100 years.

FYI, MMA, the UFC in particular, has been doing 2X better than boxing has in the last 2-3 years in terms of PPV. Mayweather vs Juddah did 350,000 ppv buys.
Sylvia vs Arlovsiki did better than that for christ sakes with 435,000 ppv buys.

DLH (boxing's biggest money draw) vs Mayorga did 875,000 ppv buys, while Liddell vs Ortiz did over 1,000,000 buys.

Mayweather is probably gonna retire now and DLH will too.

UFC is new, thats why they cant pay their fighters as much as Boxing does. In 5 years, it will be ahead of boxing no doubt.

[GonzoStyles]

Boxing is a science and so is NHB, to try and put boxing above NHB in terms of its lineage just shows your bias Uke.

It took NHB a lot less time to achieve its evolution. Just compare boxing now with boxing 50 years ago, I am not saying the "sweet science" wasnt there just not as indoctrinated or developed. MMA's evolution was much quicker and still going on.

as a combat sport boxing is basically outdated, by that I mean the same people have been running it into the ground for ages, too much money brings in the politics then matchmaking goes out the window, think of all the great fights that could have been. But it is more profitable for promoters to have the champ fight some tomato cans then a serious challenge.

the sanctioning organizations are basically run by the promoters and as a result we rarely get to see fights that everyone really wants and when they do happen, they are usually past due many years.

MMA/NHB is not immune to this but you do IMO get to see more evenly matched fighters with a greater frequency in MMA.

[Uke]

Boxing is a science and so is NHB, to try and put boxing above NHB in terms of its lineage just shows your bias Uke.

It took NHB a lot less time to achieve its evolution. Just compare boxing now with boxing 50 years ago, I am not saying the "sweet science" wasnt there just not as indoctrinated or developed. MMA's evolution was much quicker and still going on.

as a combat sport boxing is basically outdated, by that I mean the same people have been running it into the ground for ages, too much money brings in the politics then matchmaking goes out the window, think of all the great fights that could have been. But it is more profitable for promoters to have the champ fight some tomato cans then a serious challenge.

the sanctioning organizations are basically run by the promoters and as a result we rarely get to see fights that everyone really wants and when they do happen, they are usually past due many years.

MMA/NHB is not immune to this but you do IMO get to see more evenly matched fighters with a greater frequency in MMA.

You make a point, but you have to realize that once the big promoters get their teeth into NHB, they will take their blueprint from King and Arum, right? Greed is greed.

As far as evolution goes, I don't agree, but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. When that's discussed here, people get angry. So let's just agree to disagree.

[JkD187]

De La Hoya won

I dont give a fukk

judgez just robbed him

LOL

u guyz may argue

I dont give a fukk

really

LOL

biatch

LOL

lololololooolololoooooolololool

LOL

Wow im guessing you like making a fool out of yourself huh....moron says all this crap and gives no legit reasons behind it..maybe its because you have no idea what Boxing REALLY is.Go back to watching felony fights fool.

[daringdex]

My opinion is Dela hoya got robbed. Even Mayweather Sr. said that he thought DLH won on points. but that's how things are... Both still got the respect they needed and both of them are one of Boxing's classiest fighter.

[Uke]

My opinion is Dela hoya got robbed. Even Mayweather Sr. said that he thought DLH won on points. but that's how things are... Both still got the respect they needed and both of them are one of Boxing's classiest fighter.

Mayweather Sr would say anything disparaging about his son at this point because he feels like a trainer without a home. He was talking trash before the fight even happened because he was feeling hurt that Floyd jr didn't make him trainer for the fight and kept Roger.

You ain't winning on points when your opponent is throwing 100 punches less and landing nearly double what you are landing. The only way you can possibly win in that manner is if you are repeatedly knocking your opponent down, which DLH clearly wasn't.

Did anyone notice the embrace at the end of the fight? Two men who hate each other don't usually hug each other, do they? Could that mean ... that all the trash talk was for ... promotion?

[slayer31]

i love how MW said he is retiring... that will last about a year,.

[treelizard]

I saw the last 2/3, I'm not sure how anybody thought it was a draw. Good fight.